No, Dragon Ball games were huge during Famicom and Super Famicom days, One Piece isn't coming close.
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No, Dragon Ball games were huge during Famicom and Super Famicom days, One Piece isn't coming close.
The Last One
Member
Huh? did Sony give up the videogame market? Damn, poor ps4.
Week 36, 2017 (Sep 04 - Sep 10)
Bic Camera lotteries September 10
Nintendo Switch Splatoon 2 Set - 1.900 (12 stores)
Nintendo Switch Neon Blue/Neon Red - 400 (2 stores)
Nintendo Switch Gray - 0 (0 stores)
Total - 2.300 (14 stores)
Bic Camera lotteries September 10
Nintendo Switch Splatoon 2 Set - 1.900 (12 stores)
Nintendo Switch Neon Blue/Neon Red - 400 (2 stores)
Nintendo Switch Gray - 0 (0 stores)
Total - 2.300 (14 stores)
Code:
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| | Week 26 | Week 27 | Week 28 | Week 29 | Week 30 | Week 31 | Week 32 | Week 33 | Week 34 | Week 35 | Week 36 |
| Bic Camera store (No.) |06.26-07.02|07.03-07.09|07.10-07.16|07.17-07.23|07.24-07.30|07.31-08.06|08.07-08.13|08.14-08.20|08.21-08.27|08.28-09.03|09.04-09.10|
| | -5 stores | -3 stores | -2 stores |+preorders | | | | |+preorders | | |
+--------------------------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+
| Ikebukuro Main (007) | * | * | * | 276 | 300 | 300 | 300 | 0 | 400 | 300 | 300 |
| Ikebukuro West (017) | 20 | 40 | 20 | 20 | 100 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Yuurakuchou (014) | 54 | 120 | 63 | 138 | 500 | 300 | 300 | 0 | 400 | 300 | 300 |
| Shinjyuku West (016) | 40 | 80 | 45 | 40 | 250 | 150 | 150 | 0 | 200 | 150 | 150 |
| Shinjyuku Bicqlo (116) | 30 | 60 | 31 | 66 | 250 | 150 | 150 | 0 | 200 | 150 | 150 |
| Shinjyuku East (111) | 20 | 40 | 20 | 20 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Shibuya East (008) | 20 | 40 | 20 | 20 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 0 |
| Shibuya Hachiko (004) | * | 40 | 10 | 19 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Akasaka (117) | 20 | 40 | 20 | 20 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Akiba (121) | 110 | 180 | 85 | 150 | 200 | 200 | 200 | 0 | 300 | 200 | 300 |
| Tachikawa (012) | 30 | 60 | 30 | 55 | 100 | 200 | 200 | 0 | 300 | 100 | 100 |
| Seiseki (110) | 20 | 40 | 20 | 30 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Hachijoji (114) | 19 | 35 | 20 | 60 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 100 | 100 |
| Kawasaki (038) | 65 | 130 | 65 | 140 | 500 | 300 | 300 | 0 | 400 | 300 | 300 |
| Shin-Yokohama (104) | 20 | 40 | 20 | 40 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 0 |
| Yokohama West (005) | 0 | 0 | 0 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Fujisawa (037) | 20 | 40 | 20 | 55 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 100 | 100 |
| Sagami-Ono (108) | 20 | 40 | 20 | 35 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Kashiwa (035) | * | * | * | 50 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 200 | 100 | 0 |
| Kashiwa Funabashi (109) | 20 | 40 | 20 | 35 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Ohmiya (034) | 21 | 40 | 20 | 50 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 200 | 100 | 0 |
| Takasaki (091) | 20 | 20 | 20 | 30 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 0 |
| Mito (115) | * | * | 20 | 21 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 0 |
| Sapporo (015) | 26 | 55 | 22 | 58 | 200 | 200 | 200 | 0 | 200 | 200 | 100 |
| Niigata (106) | * | 40 | 20 | 30 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 0 |
| Hamamatsu (105) | 19 | 40 | 20 | 30 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 0 |
| Nagoya Station (033) | 20 | 40 | 20 | 45 | 100 | 0 | 150 | 0 | 135 | 100 | 100 |
| Nagoya JR (120) | 25 | 40 | 20 | 50 | 100 | 200 | 150 | 0 | 135 | 100 | 100 |
| Kyoto (101) | 20 | 20 | 40 | 30 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 0 |
| Osaka Nanba (013) | 30 | 60 | 30 | 45 | 200 | 200 | 200 | 0 | 300 | 200 | 100 |
| Okayama (102) | 20 | 40 | 20 | 35 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 0 |
| Hiroshima (119) | 20 | 40 | 20 | 30 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 100 | 100 |
| Kyushu Tenjin (018) | 20 | 40 | 20 | 30 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 0 |
| Kyushu Kagoshima (107) | 20 | 40 | 20 | 35 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 100 | 0 | 0 |
+--------------------------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+
| Splatoon 2 Set |(00) 0 |(00) 0 |(00) 0 |(34) * |(10) 1.800 |(08) 1.800 |(17) 2.700 |(00) 0 |(14) 2.300 |(13) 2.100 |(12) 1.900 |
| Neon Blue/Neon Red |(**) * |(**) * |(**) * |(**) * |(10) 1.700 |(01) 200 |(05) 600 |(00) 0 |(04) 1.200 |(00) 0 |(02) 400 |
| Gray |(**) * |(**) * |(**) * |(**) * |(07) 800 |(01) 200 |(04) 500 |(00) 0 |(08) 1.170 |(03) 500 |(00) 0 |
+--------------------------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+
| Total |(**) 789 |(**) 1.580 |(**) 841 |(**) 1.798 |(27) 4.300 |(10) 2.200 |(26) 3.800 |(00) 0 |(26) 4.670 |(16) 2.600 |(14) 2.300 |
+--------------------------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+
| Media Create | 25.805 | 26.256 | 31.906 | 98.999 | 89.314 | 61.933 | 87.798 | 22.277 | 69.654 | 50.074 | |
| Famitsu | 24.736 | 36.143 | 25.154 | 102.581 | 105.697 | 69.686 | 77.146 | 22.154 | 85.503 | 32.857 | |
| Dengeki | 25.442 | 32.769 | 24.462 | 93.611 | 90.522 | 57.300 | 76.479 | 43.592 | 80.950 | 48.813 | |
+--------------------------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+Oh you guys are talking about games? I thought it was about the franchises in general.
Jon Carter
Member
I see they barely ever have any grey Switch SKUs compared with the Neon and Splatoon SKUs. Good.
I was referring to the franchises in general.
The comparison was between DBX2 than OP:R
ArchedThunder
Banned
Dragon Ball makes more money than One Piece right now for both Toei and Bandai.
By pipeline he means "the pipeline of software that Japanese consumers care about", not whatever Sony plans to sell to the West, rest assured that is safe.
The Last One
Member
Oh I understood that. It's a shame that japanese third parties won't support the Ps4 anymore.
Indeed, prime days of One Piece are over. It doesn't come close at matching Dragon Ball's long lifetime.
BrokenJohnCena
Member
He didn't say anything about Japanese third parties not supporting the ps4 either
My statement was more so that I don't expect Japanese publishers to be ready with an especially notable software line-up to show at Sony's TGS event.
Most major Japanese publishers just launched their 4-10+ year in development flagship games, or have the next ones already announced.
Our missing studios are basically reduced to From Software, Tales, and maybe whatever Itsuno has been doing.
Most major Japanese publishers just launched their 4-10+ year in development flagship games, or have the next ones already announced.
Our missing studios are basically reduced to From Software, Tales, and maybe whatever Itsuno has been doing.
Laplasakos
Member
Is this another of your (wrong) insights about japanese market like the one where '' only the 5% of PlayStation games sell more than 200k''?
The Last One
Member
This is true, for this year they probably won't have many announcements, let alone big sellers ones.
It's actually 6% this gen. I'm sure it's an honest mistake.
I'm pretty sure I used the word about or around when I made that statement. Sorry I didn't, and sorry for being off by about half a percent. (got it in there for sure this time)
What game do you think Sony will announce at their conference that will sell over 200k?
Neat number for this week. A bit lower than last week, but amazon had more stock than last week, so I think we should end up at around the same shipment of 50k.
I know Nirolak already responded, but what is the point of this strawman? I am speaking of this into early next year, we've exhausted a *lot* of major projects already.
ArcaneFreeze
Member
Man they're really pumping out those Splatoon 2 bundles. Wish it was the same here, or atleast for the Joycon set. How easy is it to get the Green/Pink standalone Joycons in Japan?
Laplasakos
Member
Nope, wrong again. Let me explain it. By using as source the gamesdatalibrary which if i am not mistaken takes the numbers from Famitsu we can see that
2 PS4 games sold more than 1m
3 PS4 games sold more than 500k
5 PS4 games sold more than 400k
9 PS4 games sold more than 300k
17 PS4 games sold more than 200k
This means that 36 games for PS4 sold more than 200k. Now gamesdatalibrary lists 347 PS4 games. With some math, if 36 games out of 347 sold more than 200k, the result is around 10%.
I don't believe you said PS4 there. You just said Playstation. Which when you factor in the Vita comes around 5%
In terms of games already announced for the rest of this year, there's:
September
Uncharted: Lost Legacy
PES / Winning Eleven 2018
Raiden V Director's Cut
F1 2017
NBA 2K18
Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite
Patapon Remastered
Project Cars 2
Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III
Knack 2
Coven and Labyrinth of Refrain [PS4 Version]
MotoGP 17
FIFA 18
October
Tropico 5 [PS4 Version]
Overwatch: GotY Edition
Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen
Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3
Middle-Earth: Shadow of War
Lost Sphear
City Shrouded in Shadow
Gran Turismo Sport
Itadaki Street: DQ & FF
Psycho Break / Evil Within 2
Lego Ninjago
ARK: Survival Evolved
Taiko no Tatsujin
Crimson Bloodline
Assassin's Creed: Origins
November
.hack//G.U. Last Recode
Call of Duty: WWII
Need for Speed Payback
Occultic;Nine
Sonic Forces
Sudden Strike 4
Star Wars Battlefront 2
Project Diva Future Tone DX
The Surge
Nobunaga's Ambition: Taishi
Little Witch Academia: Chamber of Time
December
Ryu Ga Gotoku / Yakuza Kiwami 2
Biohazard / Resident Evil 7: Gold Edition
Digimon Story: Hacker's Memory
Nothing on the level of DQXI or MHW next year, but not barren.
Jon Carter
Member
Heh. Maybe you should rephrase that.
Laplasakos
Member
He never specified but i think he was talking about the only relevant PlayStation platform.
It doesn't matter, this list is based on Famitsu top 30s and is very incomplete of what has come out on PS4 and didn't chart at all.
Isn't the total for PS4 alone more like 22, as long as you include the multiple versions of the same game?
As far as the numbers I looked at, these are:
Dragon Quest XI
Final Fantasy XV
Grand Theft Auto V
Metal Gear Solid V
Persona 5
Dark Souls III
Dragon Quest Heroes
Call of Duty: Black Ops III
NieR: Automata
Yakuza 6: The Song of Life
Resident Evil 7
Dragon Quest Heroes II
Bloodborne
Battlefield 1
Tales of Berseria
Fallout 4
Star Wars Battlefront
Dragon Quest Builders
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege
Battlefield 4
Horizon: Zero Dawn
Minecraft: Playstation 4 Edition
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Man One piece has the highest single volume sales second and by far the greatest total sales due to running for longer. Dragonball has a higgwr average volume sales but but that's the main not able record it has over one piece. Though currently super's rating are a bit over one pieces but that'a it's own kettle of fish. By now though One piece has reached a bigger impact penetration.
It'a a top 3 total comic sales worldwide ahead of Spider-Man to things in perspective most of that is Japan.
Games wise one piece has never really been close of course.
Skullwaker
Member
Erm.
Hi list means 17 titles sold more that 200k but less that 300k, and so on.
https://sites.google.com/site/gamedatalibrary/software-by-platform/playstation-4
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Haha yeah he needs to state if those numbers are cumulative (include the higher tier) or not.
Skullwaker
Member
That makes more sense.
Laplasakos
Member
Yeah this. Sorry i wasn't clear.
Aostia as sharp as always catches the things fast
Yeah, I'm not expecting much. I don't see a Tales announcement happening there and From Software will probably announce their next game at a western event.
I'm not sure why you would expect big-ish announcements in a Direct but not at Sony's TGS tbh. Outside of maybe Bokujo Monogatari(sp?) any new, notable game for the Switch is going to be multiplatform, and for those games the PS4 will be the lead platform(both development and promotion wise) so they're probably more likely to be announced in a Sony event than a Nintendo one.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
C'mon now that was obvious he was pointing out what he wrote wasn't clear in the case someone believes he made a mistake which people do, do in these sorts of things. Which is why being explicit is the best way do these things.
When I made the statement, I was using Media Create numbers and they do not include all the digital downloads, so I had counted 20, with Horizon just barely missing the cut. Sorry for any confusion.
According to the Game Data Library the PS4 is much more healthy and better at selling games over 200k units than I had stated.
According to the Game Data Library the PS4 is much more healthy and better at selling games over 200k units than I had stated.
I count two games that Japanese people may give a shit about. Maybe three.
Laplasakos
Member
I think the way i wrote the numbers, i was as explicit as i could be. I didn't say i wasn't clear, i said if i wasn't clear to some people. From what i see, most of them understood what i wrote. But hey if you want to crucify me for this, instead talking about the numbers, be free.
Bic Camera shifts a big amount of Switches to Tokyo, today 1.400 of the total 2.300 went there.
I don't know how representative that split of shipments is for Japan and maybe that's one reason there isn't always a clear pattern between them and trackers.
For this and next week 40-50k should be the standard and for next 2 a small rise. With Mario Odyssey preorders opening, from October and later things will improve week after week.
Yeah this. Sorry i wasn't clear.
Aostia as sharp as always catches the things fast
It was pretty clear to me
BTW I am always stunned by the different structure of Sony and nintendo software sales in Japan
Sony platforms use to have way more games, lack many million sellers, don't have multi million sellers but have many games selling "good" (between 300k and 500k)
On the other hand nintendo consoles tend to have fewer games, lack of good sales (between 300k and 500k) but easily have various million sellers and even multi million sellers
Probably this is due to the very different structure the two console owners have in terms of third party relationships
Principate
Saint Titanfall
There's a reason why boundaries are placed in the analysis of that sort of data. A lot of people would question that notation because like I said people have and do, do make mistakes so it's not best practice to assure someone hasn't even if you know it's unlikely. Which is ehy these sorts of notations tend to be as absolutely explicit as possible. It tends to be drilled in hard.
Guys
What isn't clear in a bullet point list followed by a written sentence with the exact sum of the previously aforementioned numbers?
2 PS4 games sold more than 1m
3 PS4 games sold more than 500k
5 PS4 games sold more than 400k
9 PS4 games sold more than 300k
17 PS4 games sold more than 200k
This means that 36 games for PS4 sold more than 200k
This is perfectly fine and clear to me, if I am actually interested in understanding what he wrote and not to negate his thesis
2 +3+ 5 + 9 + 17 = 36
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Everyone knew exactly what has been said as he been stated several times over and over again. Read the actual conversation.
This is about data display.
Japanese-sales exciting times ahead..
I am reeaaally curious to see what the hell is going to happen with the switch in Q4 in Japan.
bigger lines?
people crying after not winning a single lottery for months, thus needing to buy a switch later in 2018?
street riots?
mass hysteria?
but more seriously,
are 300k+ hardware weeks possible? could nintendo be keeping that kind of reserves right now for the upcoming season?
Reading this very page many users attacked him because it seemed that he listed this email data incorrectly and that there was a mistake in writing 17 and 36 games over 200k
He didn't, he listed data in a very clear way in my opinion
I don't see lotteries in December, there will be so big amount of units available, that even if demand exceeds supply the whole procedure won't be functional.
BrokenJohnCena
Member
will they ship over 70k for the Fire emblem launch?I think they can use the console hype to sell Fire emblem warriors
For the most part, I'm expecting the big announcements at Nintendo's event to be games published by Nintendo for 2018.
I imagine the exceptions would be things along the lines of Inazuma Eleven, where they're children's and family brands hopping over to next-gen.