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Media Create Sales: Week 36, 2013 (Sep 02 - Sep 08)

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QaaQer

Member
AniHawk said:
i was commenting on how the hardware that should have been pushed, the ones with new releases, dropped, while the 3ds, which saw no no releases, went up a significant amount.



alternatively, the vita tv could be sony's attempt at fostering a sort of console development scene in japan.



a tiny inexpensive portable console that plays a mostly japanese-dominated library from a portable lineup sounds much more like a japanese device than it does an american one. if sony really had wanted this to do something in america, they would have had it out before black friday, and pushed killzone alongside it.
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How do you sell this thing to either Japan or America?

I really am having a hard time understanding what exactly the VitaTV is supposed to be as a stand alone product and who it is aimed at. The audience that wants Vita games on TV must be miniscule. Is there a long term strategy at work here?

In contrast, the upcoming Amazon ARM console will probably have the same $99 price tag, offer exclusive games, 1080p output, and will tap into the large android app system. VitaTV looks pretty underwhelming in comparison.

The only thing it looks good for is as a PS4 extender + netflix 720p player.
 
D

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Cygnus X-1 said:
No. Next Nintendo's home system should be based on a original idea. Wii was based on something never done before. Crazy, but new. Wii U merely follows iPod's hype. Obviously, the consumer doesn't see any advantage in buying a Wii U at the moment - exactly because it's not an interesting device. On the core, the Gamecube suffered the same problem: why buying it when you had a PS2 with everything you wanted + the DVD driver in it?

Nintendo needs just to stop following what others are doing. They are failing so badly exactly because they ignored their own blue ocean strategy. I wonder if they realized it.
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Isn't that the point? The new idea doesn't have to be revolutionary, it just has to be something people actually want. Who else has actually done this seemingly basic thing? They wouldn't be following anybody. A system that doubles as both a handheld and a console would have a lot of appeal and would make a ton of sense for a whole bunch of reasons.

As neat as the Vita TV is they would have honestly just been better off sticking HDMI out onto the device.
 
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Oregano

Member
Man, 3DS' third party support is so piss poor considering its sales. It's not even like games have been underperforming either.
 
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Mr Swine

Banned
Fantastic numbers for 3DS but blah for everything else -_- where is smokey Dave? Haven't seen him in this thread? :p

Also does anyone see that when God Hand 2 gets released in November (and Vita 2000 in oct) , hardware sales aren't going to be that impressive if sales are really low now for a few months if it stays at 7-10k a week instead of 15-20k a week? I mean that if GH2 gets vita sales to 50k that week, doesn't the low sales now negate that?

Edit:

Wow looks like the 3DS sales is following the same pattern as PSP just before Monhun 3 was released in japan
 
Sakura

Sakura

Member
I think FFXIV's numbers are pretty good. FFXI had a subscriber base of what, 400~500k and was their most profitable FF? I think 200k for the PS3 version in Japan only is a pretty good start, hopefully they are able to keep people subscribing.

I hope the 3DS has really great numbers next week, and not just 100k or something.
 
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Sandfox

Member
Vita TV will be interesting in Japan since the Vita already has about as good SW suppport as it will ever see regardless of any sales boosts and it will be completely up the HW.
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Famitsu Sales: Week 36, 2013 (Sep 02 - Sep 08)

01./00. [PSP] Uta no Prince-Sama: Music 2 # <ACT> (Broccoli) {2013.09.05} (¥3.990) - 59.929 / NEW <60-80%>
02./01. [PS3] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle # <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.29} (¥7.980) - 30.194 / 421.777 <80-100%> (-92%)
03./00. [PS3] Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2013.09.05} (¥7.770) - 24.221 / NEW <60-80%>
04./00. [PS3] Dead or Alive 5: Ultimate # <FTG> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.09.05} (¥6.090) - 18.368 / NEW <80-100%>
05./02. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Real Reborn # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.08.27} (¥3.300) - 11.835 / 196.297 <80-100%> (-94%)
06./05. [3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life # <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.01} (¥5.480) - 11.657 / 244.230 <80-100%> (-31%)
07./07. [3DS] Mario & Luigi: Dream Team # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2013.07.18} (¥4.800) - 11.459 / 299.230 <60-80%> (-26%)
08./00. [PSV] Killzone: Mercenary <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.09.05} (¥4.980) - 11.113 / NEW <60-80%>
09./08. [3DS] Friend Collection: New Life # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800) - 8.994 / 1.410.378 <80-100%> (-25%)
10./03. [PS3] Lost Planet 3 <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.08.29} (¥6.990) - 8.952 / 43.205 <40-60%> (-74%)
11./09. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 8.939 / 3.798.580 <80-100%> (-17%)
12./04. [PSV] Ragnarok Odyssey Ace <ACT> (GungHo Online Entertainment) {2013.08.29} (¥4.935) - 8.259 / 40.507 <60-80%> (-74%)
13./00. [PS3] Puppeteer <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.09.05} (¥5.980) - 8.080 / NEW <20-40%>
14./10. [3DS] Youkai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 8.050 / 173.408 <80-100%> (-14%)
15./00. [PSP] Kiyoka no Ori: Hiiro no Kakera 4 - Shiki no Shi # <ADV> (Idea Factory) {2013.09.05} (¥6.090) - 6.830 / NEW <60-80%>
16./00. [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Dubbed Edition (Bargain Edition) <ACT> (Square Enix) {2013.09.05} (¥3.990) - 4.492 / NEW <20-40%>
17./12. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800) - 4.357 / 902.664 <80-100%> (-19%)
18./00. [360] Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2013.09.05} (¥7.770) - 4.165 / NEW <80-100%>
19./17. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.29} (¥5.040) - 3.740 / 561.185 <80-100%> (-9%)
20./00. [360] Dead or Alive 5: Ultimate # <FTG> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.09.05} (¥6.090) - 3.462 / NEW <80-100%>
21./15. [3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.06.13} (¥4.800) - 3.358 / 233.081 <80-100%> (-25%)
22./20. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 3.028 / 2.104.478 <80-100%> (-21%)
23./18. [3DS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies <ADV> (Capcom) {2013.07.25} (¥5.990) - 3.006 / 336.438 <80-100%> (-27%)
24./22. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 3.003 / 2.078.358 <80-100%> (-15%)
25./11. [PS3] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III - Pride of Justice <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.22} (¥7.480) - 2.917 / 47.481 <60-80%> (-60%)
26./16. [WIU] Pikmin 3 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.07.13} (¥5.985) - 2.852 / 194.401 <80-100%> (-35%)
27./21. [3DS] Fantasy Life: Link! <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.25} (¥4.980) - 2.522 / 61.551 <80-100%> (-31%)
28./14. [3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.08} (¥5.980) - 2.519 / 57.114 <80-100%> (-46%)
29./00. [PSP] Kisaragi Gold Star: Nonstop Go Go!! # <ADV> (Piacci) {2013.09.05} (¥6.279) - 2.513 / NEW <60-80%>
30./00. [PS3] Farming Simulator <SLG> (Russell) {2013.09.05} (¥6.090) - 2.494 / NEW <40-60%>

Top 30

3DS - 12
PS3 - 9
PSP - 3
360 - 2
PSV - 2
WII - 1
WIU - 1

HARDWARE
Code: 
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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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| 3DS # |     78.300 |     59.392 |     57.305 |  2.525.175 |  3.188.529 |  12.287.677 |
|  PS3  |     11.932 |     16.236 |     12.210 |    585.908 |    860.556 |   9.330.241 |
|  PSV  |      7.427 |      9.443 |     11.382 |    678.726 |    514.511 |   1.755.885 |
|  WIU  |      5.054 |      6.239 |            |    417.414 |            |   1.055.753 |
| PSP # |      4.482 |      5.125 |      9.434 |    358.648 |    630.095 |  19.537.748 |
|  WII  |      1.064 |      1.014 |      5.493 |     58.361 |    399.339 |  12.719.103 |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  ALL  |    108.259 |     97.610 |     97.034 |  4.643.836 |  5.677.148 |  80.274.377 |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  PSP  |      4.482 |      5.125 |      9.434 |    358.648 |    630.095 |  19.377.173 |
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C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Not my mistake for the late thread. I kept getting 504 errors every time I tried to post from this side of the planet.

I think Tom Clancy is the first multiplatform 360 beats Wii U.
 
D

Dragon

Banned
Untalkative_Bunny said:
How do you sell this thing to either Japan or America?

I really am having a hard time understanding what exactly the VitaTV is supposed to be as a stand alone product and who it is aimed at. The audience that wants Vita games on TV must be miniscule. Is there a long term strategy at work here?

In contrast, the upcoming Amazon ARM console will probably have the same $99 price tag, offer exclusive games, 1080p output, and will tap into the large android app system. VitaTV looks pretty underwhelming in comparison.

The only thing it looks good for is as a PS4 extender + netflix 720p player.
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The ARM console is going to have a controller similar to the DS3?
 
P

Principate

Saint Titanfall
suppadoopa said:
How doesnt it make sense? It fits in within the PlayStation eco system perfectly.
It's also a perfect compliment to the 3DS just like the PSP/DS
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It's sales and the fact they had completely change direction with speak differently. Heck it was essentially a psp part 2 however the psp had faded massively in west (so it was likely never going to sell gangbusters regardless of the climate) and it managed to squander all legacy advantages the psp had in Japan.
 
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DarkLordMalik

Member
Wow @ Famitsu Top 10

5 PS3 titles
3 3DS
1 PSV
1 PSP

Is this the first time PS3 has so many titles in Top 10, especially after the release of 3DS?

Edit: Mistook the top title as PS3 but it was PSP -_-
 
B

Boney

Banned
Mr Swine said:
Fantastic numbers for 3DS but blah for everything else -_- where is smokey Dave? Haven't seen him in this thread? :p

Also does anyone see that when God Hand 2 gets released in November (and Vita 2000 in oct) , hardware sales aren't going to be that impressive if sales are really low now for a few months if it stays at 7-10k a week instead of 15-20k a week? I mean that if GH2 gets vita sales to 50k that week, doesn't the low sales now negate that?

Edit:

Wow looks like the 3DS sales is following the same pattern as PSP just before Monhun 3 was released in japan
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God eater 2

I wish it was god hand
 
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Aquamarine

Member
Chris1964 said:
Not my mistake for the late thread. I kept getting 504 errors every time I tried to post from this side of the planet.

I think Tom Clancy is the first multiplatform 360 beats Wii U.
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I'm looking forward to Dengeki's Top 3 Wii U games this week...just to see how low Splinter Cell: Blacklist for Wii U debuted.
 
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Glass Rebel

Member
Oregano said:
Man, 3DS' third party support is so piss poor considering its sales. It's not even like games have been underperforming either.
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Nintendo reaping what they sew. They overestimated themselves and underestimated mobile which left them in a situation that is pretty good but could be much better.
 
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Aquamarine

Member
Only three more days until MONSTER HUNTER 4 launches in Japan.

It'll be tracked in next week's sales (2 days of sales)...next week will be insane.
 
K

Kangi

Member
Aquamarine said:
Only three more days until MONSTER HUNTER 4 launches in Japan.

It'll be tracked in next week's sales (2 days of sales)...next week will be insane.
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jj984jj said:
its_comingyzsf5.gif
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Let us take a moment to prepare ourselves for the coming storm. My condolences to any Japanese who will suddenly lose contact with every one of their friends.
 
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Wynnebeck

Banned
Aquamarine said:
Only three more days until MONSTER HUNTER 4 launches in Japan.

It'll be tracked in next week's sales (2 days of sales)...next week will be insane.
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Thank goodness. Can't wait for Pokemon and MH4 to come out so we can get past all this ridiculous hype and actually discuss sales past Nintendo releasing those two titles.
 
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Sandfox

Member
Glass Rebel said:
Nintendo reaping what they sew. They overestimated themselves and underestimated mobile which left them in a situation that is pretty good but could be much better.
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A lot of devs seem to just be moving over to mobile with their smaller games for obvious reasons.

Kangi said:
Let us take a moment to prepare ourselves for the coming storm. My condolences to any Japanese who will suddenly lose contact with every one of their friends.
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They'll all be playing together lol.
 
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Magicpaint

Member
Wynnebeck said:
Thank goodness. Can't wait for Pokemon and MH4 to come out so we can get past all this ridiculous hype and actually discuss sales past Nintendo releasing those two titles.
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Yeah, how dare people actually discuss about the two biggest releases of the year in Japan.
 
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DarkLordMalik

Member
I wasn't here back then but was the hype and talk about MHP3rd on PSP as strong in these threads?

Wynnebeck said:
Thank goodness. Can't wait for Pokemon and MH4 to come out so we can get past all this ridiculous hype and actually discuss sales past Nintendo releasing those two titles.
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I know what you are talking about but i think people are extra excited because of the combo of Pokemon + Monster Hunter. Both will result in exploding sales and it should be interesting to see how it unfolds.
 
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razoftblend

Member
Glass Rebel said:
Nintendo reaping what they sew. They overestimated themselves and underestimated mobile which left them in a situation that is pretty good but could be much better.
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I think it has more to do with publishers' mindset than Nintendo overstimating themselves. On one gand, you have smaller, biche developers like Atlus finding succes on the system. On the other hand' you have Square Enix announcing iOS game regularly even though Bravely Default on the 3DS is one of their most successful new IPs is a while. Not much outside of DQ remakes. Capcom has a bunch of games they could release on the thing, but they don't do it. They could even create smaller, new IPs that would cost less on the 3DS than on home consoles.

Everyone seems to have a different focus. I remember playing stuff like The Avalon Code and Izuna on the DS. Izuna -like games could work as downloable games, but for some reason, Japan wants physical releases to sell any meaningful numbefs. This is only going to get worse even on consoles
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Wynnebeck said:
Thank goodness. Can't wait for Pokemon and MH4 to come out so we can get past all this ridiculous hype and actually discuss sales past Nintendo releasing those two titles.
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Bad news for you are that these 2 games will be the center of Japanese sales many months after their release.
 
W

Wynnebeck

Banned
Magicpaint said:
Yeah, how dare people actually discuss about the two biggest releases of the year in Japan.
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Frodo said:
I know, right? Specially when they are coming out only one month away from each other. How come people are excited for that?
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Har har. Not everyone is waiting for the inevitable Pokehunter circlejerk that's about to take place. Maybe some of us want to know what's going on in the pipeline for other systems like Wii U and PS3.
 
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Alrus

Member
DarkLordMalik said:
I wasn't here back then but was the hype and talk about MHP3rd on PSP as strong in these threads?
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Of course, huge titles are always heavily discussed.

Wynnebeck said:
Har har. Not everyone is waiting for the inevitable Pokehunter circlejerk that's about to take place. Maybe some of us want to know what's going on in the pipeline for other systems like Wii U and PS3.
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You're in a sales thread and you're complaining about people being excited for big releases? That's kind of weird...
 
W

Wynnebeck

Banned
Alrus said:
You're in a sales thread and you're complaining about people being excited for big releases? That's kind of weird...
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I'm complaining that I haven't heard the latest and greatest news from guys like Level-5 for example. The real unsung heroes of the trenches. :p
 
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Frodo

Member
Wynnebeck said:
Har har. Not everyone is waiting for the inevitable Pokehunter circlejerk that's about to take place. Maybe some of us want to know what's going on in the pipeline for other systems like Wii U and PS3.
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There is always room in this thread to discuss sales in general if you want to, and I bet that even though those two games are definitely going to be the main focus on the weeks they come out, there is going to be discussion about other games and systems as well. It is not like someone is going to ban you for not talking about Pokemon or MoHun.

Spiegel said:
And during even more months than necessary if Sammy Samusu is not banned at that point.
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Sorry for the off-topic but, is he back already? It would be cool to have him here next week for MoHun! :p
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Wynnebeck said:
Har har. Not everyone is waiting for the inevitable Pokehunter circlejerk that's about to take place. Maybe some of us want to know what's going on in the pipeline for other systems like Wii U and PS3.
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Wii U: I' ve said many times before my opinion
PS3: This year started the downward trend and like every other system that is replaced it will keep falling harder year after year from now on.

Now we can talk for Monster Hunter 4 and Pokemon X/Y
 
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DarkLordMalik

Member
Just saw this

YZMordz.jpg

The latest big push for Puzzle & Dragons sees a mega collaboration project between Puzzle & Dragons and two other popular smartphone apps—Dragon’s Dogma Quest and Monster Hunter Felyne Bazaar. As part of the collaboration, Puzzle & Dragons will see crossover dungeons to capture new monsters, while both Dragon’s Dogma Quest and Monster Hunter Felyne Island Bazaar will spot visits from P&D’s King Metal Dragon and other creatures.
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Siliconera

So many crossovers these days, lol
 
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BlackJace

Member
Wynnebeck said:
Har har. Not everyone is waiting for the inevitable Pokehunter circlejerk that's about to take place. Maybe some of us want to know what's going on in the pipeline for other systems like Wii U and PS3.
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So what you're saying is you want to go back to doom and gloom? I mean, that's essentially what's in the pipeline for both systems (especially Wii U) until the fall/holidays.
 
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