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Media Create Sales: Week 45, 2012 (Nov 05 - Nov 11)

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Cuddler

Member
Really good first week for Animal Crossing and the 3DS. I noticed that the 3DSLL has sold a lot more then the normal 3DS. Is this normal? I mean, is the DSiLL the best selling NDS version after it comes out? If this is true we can say that people are probably more interested in having a larger screen than having a smaller version that is more easy to carry around. Is it possible that Nintendo will go for a bigger version in the first place for its next handheld?
If this is a stupid question ignore me

I was expecting more from the second week of Xilia 2, but judging by the other title drops posted here, it's nothing really new for a Tales of game.
 
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
mclem said:
Um. Isn't that Best Price MH3... not actually doing very well? I thought the cheaper rereleases usually shot up the charts with the PSP titles?

In cheerier news: Has there been a more successful new Square IP since Kingdom Hearts?
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It's doing so well for not being released yet: it comes out tomorrow. :D
What you see in Famitsu chart is the 3DS bundle with MH3G preinstalled.
 
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marc^o^

Nintendo's Pro Bono PR Firm
Synergies between consoles and handhelds are much higher than they used to.

How could 3DS winning Japan big time not tremendously help Wii U, with shared brands, miiverse, cross play, Nintendo Account, Nintendo Direct, etc. ?
 
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zroid

Banned
Hiro_Kunimi_80 said:
i'm not so sure..
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Wii U will fare at least decently in Japan (and probably great, as far as home consoles go); it's getting Mario and Monster Hunter at launch, that's quite a pairing. (EDIT: and the DQX beta)

Nothing will likely come close to dethroning 3DS at this point, however.
 
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AdventureRacing

Member
marc^o^ said:
Synergies between consoles and handhelds are much higher than they used to.

How could 3DS winning Japan big time not tremendously help Wii U, with shared brands, miiverse, cross play, Nintendo Account, Nintendo Direct, etc. ?
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Well i guess because they will be competing for Japenese 3rd party support. There is also the possibility that people continue to choose handhelds over home consoles.

I don't really see the synergy being very strong at all tbh. The biggest benefit for nintendo is that their brandname is remaining very strong.
 
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nickcv

Member
Zeer0id said:
Wii U will fare at least decently in Japan (and probably great, as far as home consoles go); it's getting Mario and Monster Hunter at launch, that's quite a pairing.

Nothing will likely come close to dethroning 3DS at this point, however.
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you forgot DQX beta
 
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demidar

Member
mclem said:
People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.
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fabricated backlash

Member
AdventureRacing said:
Well i guess because they will be competing for Japenese 3rd party support. There is also the possibility that people continue to choose handhelds over home consoles.

I don't really see the synergy being very strong at all tbh. The biggest benefit for nintendo is that their brandname is remaining very strong.
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Yeah cross gaming still is a very much unproven proposition. There were some games that pulled it off (pokemon stadium titles) but as an actual business model that's viable for anyone else but system holders and privileged 3rd party partners it's really doubtfull that its going to matter.
 
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Hammer24

Banned
slaughterking said:
I wonder if that is something 3rd party publishers are actually okay with. In light of strong competition from other mobile devices it seems smart to build one really strong ecosystem on just one dedicated portable game machine instead of supporting two.
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It should definitely make life easier, especially for smaller devs.
But from a consumer POV this lack of competition is troubling.
 
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MikeE21286

Member
Man, the global outlook for this industry seems all types of messed up.

Handhelds dominating consoles in the East

Consoles in decline and smartphones/tablets making handhelds less relevant in the West

Weird...
 
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AdventureRacing

Member
Hammer24 said:
It should definitely make life easier, especially for smaller devs.
But from a consumer POV this lack of competition is troubling.
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I've said this so many times but this line of thought simply doesn't make sense any more. The 3DS's biggest competition is coming from smartphones and tablets, it doesn't matter if the vita is canned tomorrow the 3DS will still have heaps of competition.

It's not as if the consumer really had a tough time when the PS1 or PS2 were dominating either. If anything having an extremely healthy dominant platform seems to be great for the development of quality games.
 
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allan-bh

Member
Aostia said:
What we have:

MC: 602
Famitsu: 721
Iwata: 800 (600 shipped + 200 downloaded)

We can assume that Nintendo shipped 600K physical copies to the store: sold out. Nintendo shipped also hundreds thousands DD Card to retailers, and was able to sell more or less 120K of those cards to consumers. MC doesn't track them, while Famitsu does. Almost 80k people downloaded the game directly from the eshop without the DD cards.

More or less.
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Don't believe virtually 100% sell through. Maybe 90%-95%.

With that in mind, maybe we're just seeing a case of trackers discrepancy and not Media Create not tracking download cards.
 
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
MagiusNecros said:
I think they suffer from autism and it just takes a while to click.
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Eh, I'd say we should also count how much time an improved port could take to develop, between touch screen usage to be implemented, graphical changes and other things...
 
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Barack Lesnar

Banned
marc^o^ said:
Synergies between consoles and handhelds are much higher than they used to.

How could 3DS winning Japan big time not tremendously help Wii U, with shared brands, miiverse, cross play, Nintendo Account, Nintendo Direct, etc. ?
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I don't think those synergies are as significant as you think. Also don't think Japan would really care about that stuff. I'm skeptical of Wii U's success in Japan. I figure it'll have a really nice start and then taper off considerably until next Fall.
 
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Kazerei

Banned
Aostia said:
MC: 602
Famitsu: 721
Iwata: 800 (600 shipped + 200 downloaded)

We can assume that Nintendo shipped 600K physical copies to the store: sold out. Nintendo shipped also hundreds thousands DD Card to retailers, and was able to sell more or less 120K of those cards to consumers. MC doesn't track them, while Famitsu does. Almost 80k people downloaded the game directly from the eshop without the DD cards.

More or less.
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I thought it was 600k shipped for day 1, and 200k more shipped during the rest of the week? So 800k physical copies in total.
 
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Aostia

El Capitan Todd
Yaceka said:
NSMBU + MH3G HD + DQ 10 pretty much says it will sell like crazy.
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I think that it will start selling well (Nintendo console during Holiday period, Mario and MH available with the DQ beta), but I'm not so sure that it will sell like crazy.

Back in the days, Wii was able to destroy the market thanks to the great motion sensor gaming idea: the sum of Wii Sport and Play was able to reflect the HW number for several months; Japan loved the motion gaming at the beginning.
I'm not so sure that the actual tablet-like controller will be as strong as the remote, honestly.

I think that also Nintendo is aware of this, and this is the reason why they are presenting New Mario (could it be considered their strongest home console brand? I think so) at launch, and this is the reasons I think they are working with third parties to get also MH and DQ project as soon as possible on the console (avoiding three-years of very light third party support as happened for the Wii)

So, the presence at launch of big IP is ture and real, but we should also consider that New Mario 2 for the 3DS (that's the best console on the market) is showing a little bit (or even more) of brand fatigue; that MHTriG Ultimate is not a brand new episode but the third iteration of a game that is already available, and more successfull, on the portable side of gaming; that DQ is the second iteration/hd porting of a MMOORPG, not a classic brand new Jrpg title.

Plus, a lot of softco (with the exception of Tecmo-Koei, that with its Mosou games could be a good partner for the Wii U in Japan, unlike on the Wii where there were few games of this genre, and were all late in the life cycle) are still very cautious about Wii U's support

last but not least: Wii U will not be a cheaper console as the Wii was back in the days

So, I don't know if it will be able to sell like crazy
 
MagiusNecros

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Mpl90 said:
Eh, I'd say we should also count how much time an improved port could take to develop, between touch screen usage to be implemented, graphical changes and other things...
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This is true, depending on if they used the 4gb standard cartridge or the supposed 8gb cartridges unless those were only rumored to be in use.
 
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