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[electroplankton]

Again - to put that "30 people at yodobashi" queue into a little context ...

here's the Vita queue at the same location (we had to queue over from the main enterance)

The queue looped all the way round too. 300+ or so, perhaps Johntv can remember as i think he was counting.

Wow, all Vita owners together!

 

[Vinnk]

Went to 3 stores. Sold out at two of them.

In other words, you can get a Wii U in my town, but you might not be able to get it at the first place you look.

This is not like the Wii, PS2 or DS that were just gone from every store and you would be lucky to find one at all.

But it is also not like the PS3, 3DS, 360 or Vita that were never sold out anywhere in Japan.

Anecdotes are useless without numbers shipped, but so far it looks like it was not a bomba but also didn't set the world on fire.

 

[Gianni Merryman]

But it is also not like the PS3, 3DS, 360 or Vita that were never sold out anywhere in Japan.

As an anedoctal note, for what it's worth - since we haven't shipments/sell-through numbers, besides they launched in different periods - I have just done some research about launch weeks sales of said consoles(correct me if I'm wrong on any of these numbers):

PS3 84.000
3DS 374.000
Vita 325.000(it reached 380.000 the week after that, more than 1/3 of LTD sales)

 

[NeonZ]

OK, now this makes it seem worse than I thought it would be. Bamco wants 350k lifetime sales? I could only see that if they had gotten 250k+ first week. I'm hoping the drop in 2nd week won't be too big but I'm not expecting anything.

I think Banpresto is way over their heads with this attempt of pushing out the OG series as the main SRW title, the first 2d HD game. The OG series has its fanbase, but it's obviously smaller than the fanbase of the main games.

Although, really, I think there are problems with their strategy in general. Back during Alpha 3 SRW a hyped up "main" SRW could break half a million at least, but now none of the main games can do that and aren't even expected to. Maybe focusing on HD sprites rather than spending resources to make a game with good 3d animations was a mistake? All 3d SRWs have had pretty poor animations compared to the 2d games, but that's just Banpresto's own fault and not really an inherent limitation of 3d graphics.

 

[DCharlie]

Wow, all Vita owners together!

Went to 3 stores. Sold out at two of them.

In other words, you can get a Wii U in my town, but you might not be able to get it at the first place you look.

This is not like the Wii, PS2 or DS that were just gone from every store and you would be lucky to find one at all.

But it is also not like the PS3, 3DS, 360 or Vita that were never sold out anywhere in Japan.

Anecdotes are useless without numbers shipped, but so far it looks like it was not a bomba but also didn't set the world on fire.

one SMBC analyst mentioned 3-400k for launch - but nothing official. I'd expect some numbers tuesday i'd have thought.

 

[Jackano]

Do we know how much Nintendo has shipped?

 

[zroid]

I seem to recall Vita had a lot of hype in Japan pre-release, which quickly fizzled out. The first week sales were pretty high, no?

 

[electroplankton]

I seem to recall Vita had a lot of hype in Japan pre-release, which quickly fizzled out. The first week sales were pretty high, no?

Yes, it was pretty hyped before the launch, also thanks to a good launch line-up, which was really appealing the Japanese in general.

 

[CronoShot]

I seem to recall Vita had a lot of hype in Japan pre-release, which quickly fizzled out. The first week sales were pretty high, no?

Almost a third (probably closer to a quarter now) of it's current LTD came from launch week.

 

[metalslimer]

Yes, it was pretty hyped before the launch, also thanks to a good launch line-up, which was really appealing the Japanese in general.

What? No, it was the complete opposite.

 

[farnham]

Yes, it was pretty hyped before the launch, also thanks to a good launch line-up, which was really appealing the Japanese in general.

cant believe i was in japan at vita launch and didnt get one

retrospectively was a good decision though as i might get one way cheaper now.

 

[Celine]

What? No, it was the complete opposite.

Sarcasm, I think.

I seem to recall Vita had a lot of hype in Japan pre-release, which quickly fizzled out. The first week sales were pretty high, no?

First week or month don't mean much.
Core fans of a console manufacturer will simply buy the system at launch regardless of what it is on, in the hope of a bright future.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

do we have week 1 numbers for past consoles from Media Create anywhere?

 

[electroplankton]

What? No, it was the complete opposite.

Actually the opposite has always seemed to me a misconception.
Japan Vita's launch line-up had 26 games, and only 7 of them were Western titles.
It had Hot Shot Golf, Dynasty Warriors, Ridge Racer, Disgaea, Dream Club, Katamary, two fighting games, two promising Square Enix games (though one new IP, and the sequel of a not popular game)... It had a really good line-up for Japanese tastes, let alone the fact that some of them were spin-offs or porting (this always happens during launches). Furthermore, Uncharted is probably one of the most successful IP from a Western Sony studio in Japan lately.

 

[Celine]

do we have week 1 numbers for past consoles from Media Create anywhere?

Superior tracker:

GBC: 155774
NGP: 21471
DC: 101490
WS: 102655
PS2: 630552
GBA: 611504
WSC: 145975
NGC: 133719
Xbx: 123929
NDS: 441485
PSP: 166074
360: 62135
PS3: 88443
Wii: 371936
3DS: 371326
PSV: 321407

 

[Hero of Legend]

No MH sales estimates or anything?

 

[thestopsign]

Anything in the 300-400k range should be expected, anything out of that should be a bit of a surprise.

 

[Brazil]

Anything in the 300-400k range should be expected, anything out of that should be a bit of a surprise.

300-400k for Monster Hunter Tri G HD?

Dude, no.

 

[thestopsign]

300-400k for Monster Hunter Tri G HD?

lol no.

Wii U. Monster Hunter should be like 90-100k (not sure if they are counting bundles though).

 

[Gianni Merryman]

No MH sales estimates or anything?

I've got a hunch that it's going to be the second or third best selling game on Wii U this week, and it may have sold decently, say in the range of 80k or better, but we should have to wait ten days for official first week's sales.

 

[Nekki]

250k wouldn't be bad in japan. For WiiU

 

[frankie_baby]

I've got a hunch that it's going to be the second or third best selling game on Wii U this week, and it may have sold decently, say in the range of 80k or better, but we should have to wait ten days for official first week's sales.

We only need to wait til Wednesday

 

[frankie_baby]

Wii U. Monster Hunter should be like 90-100k (not sure if they are counting bundles though).

Are these estimates yours or are you getting them from somewhere?

 

[Gianni Merryman]

We only need to wait til Wednesday

I stand corrected, I thought Japanese charts were one week behind.

 

[thestopsign]

Are these estimates yours or are you getting them from somewhere?

Just my prediction.

 

[frankie_baby]

Just my prediction.

Ah well they do count bundles

 

[Hobby]

Tsutaya Ranking (12/3 to 12/9)

1. Yakuza 5
2. New Super Mario Bros. U
3. Paper Mario: Sticker Star
4. Animal Crossing: New Leaf
5. Nintendo Land
6. Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney
7. The 2nd Super Robot Wars OG
8. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (PS3)
9. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Magnagate and the Infinite Labyrinth
10. Everyone's Golf 6
11. Animal Crossing: New Leaf (DL version)
12. Monster Hunter Tri G HD Ver.
13. Taiko no Tatsujin (controller bundle)
14. New Super Mario Bros. 2
15. Monster Hunter Tri G Best Price!
16. Taiko no Tatsujin (standalone)
17. Dragon Quest X registration code
18. World Soccer Winning Eleven 2013 (PSP)
19. Totori no Atelier Plus
20. Tousuuchuu (3DS)

http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/rank/game.html?rank=top_sub

 

[LOCK]

If we know the average drops of Layton and AA games, we could guesstimate a range for Nintendoland.

 

[pieatorium]

If we know the average drops of Layton and AA games, we could guesstimate a range for Nintendoland.

I don't know if you could use either for good gauge of what you could expect a crossover to do

 

[LOCK]

Hmm true. If LvsP drops 80% then that puts it around 25k. And if AC holds steady from last week that puts it's upper bound around 100k (doubtful). So Nintendoland is in that range.

Unless Mario does like 200k or we have some amazing holds this week, software for the Wii U is not going to match the Wii's launch which had Wii Sports, Play,Zelda and Wario Ware.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Superior tracker:

GBC: 155774
NGP: 21471
DC: 101490
WS: 102655
PS2: 630552
GBA: 611504
WSC: 145975
NGC: 133719
Xbx: 123929
NDS: 441485
PSP: 166074
360: 62135
PS3: 88443
Wii: 371936
3DS: 371326
PSV: 321407

thank you, google gave me nothing but that is what I was looking for

 

[zroid]

Tsutaya Ranking (12/3 to 12/9)

5. Nintendo Land

http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/rank/game.html?rank=top_sub

bomba

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Tsutaya Ranking (12/3 to 12/9)

1. Yakuza 5
2. New Super Mario Bros. U
3. Paper Mario: Sticker Star
4. Animal Crossing: New Leaf
5. Nintendo Land
6. Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney
7. The 2nd Super Robot Wars OG
8. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (PS3)
9. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Magnagate and the Infinite Labyrinth
10. Everyone's Golf 6
11. Animal Crossing: New Leaf (DL version)
12. Monster Hunter Tri G HD Ver.
13. Taiko no Tatsujin (controller bundle)
14. New Super Mario Bros. 2
15. Monster Hunter Tri G Best Price!
16. Taiko no Tatsujin (standalone)
17. Dragon Quest X registration code
18. World Soccer Winning Eleven 2013 (PSP)
19. Totori no Atelier Plus
20. Tousuuchuu (3DS)

http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/rank/game.html?rank=top_sub

Poor Mario could not even touch Yakuza 5, Japan must be tired of you.
ZombiU

 

[LOCK]

Poor Mario could not even touch Yakuza 5, Japan must be tired of you.
ZombiU

Yakuza probably did 300k+

The Wii U would have to sell like 600k for the attach rate of NSMBU to beat it...

 

[allan-bh]

Probably at least Nintendo Wii U hardware number will be revealed before wednesday.

 

[chickdigger802]

Isn't monhun 4 just a few months away? Why would people want to buy old game right now?

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

Cheaper, HD version, three months too long to wait for some, different game, take your pick.

 

[allan-bh]

Isn't monhun 4 just a few months away? Why would people want to buy old game right now?

Because is a home console version and Monster Hunter 4 is for a portable console.

 

[chickdigger802]

Cheaper, HD version, three months too long to wait for some, different game, take your pick.

Isn't this just the 3ds game (that I assume most of japan already have)?

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

Isn't this just the 3ds game (that I assume most of japan already have)?

Fewer own 3G than MHP3rd, plus it has online play and HD.

 

[DCharlie]

Ah well they do count bundles

Fewer own 3G than MHP3rd, plus it has online play and HD.

HD and online - two things the Japanese MH community don't particularly give a flying toss about it seems.

 

[Gianni Merryman]

Tsutaya Ranking

Are they usually reliable?

17. Dragon Quest X registration code

Is this something different from the beta trial code included in the Premium bundle?

 

[twentytwo22]

Are they reliable?




Is this something different from the beta trial code included in the Premium bundle?

This is the Wii version of the game. Tsutaya stores (with assistance from Square Enix of course) are offering a "rental" of DQX, after which you pay something like 4,000 yen for a registration code for the full version if you decide to continue on. Not only do you get to play it for a bit for free up front, but the 4,000 yen is considerably cheaper than the price of the normal game.

 

[Celine]

thank you, google gave me nothing but that is what I was looking for

Mind you those are Famitsu/Enterbrain numbers.

 

[Road]

Are they usually reliable?

They are reliable because they are a retailer that are showing a rank of games sold on their stores only.

They're not a sales tracker for the entire market. They're simply another Amazon and Comgnet ranking (just a bigger retailer, although I don't know if they sell more games than either).

 

[Moor-Angol]

Amazon.jp
Yodobashi
Sofmap
Yamada Denki

all these online retailers have Wii U sold out (both versions)

 

[AniHawk]

i hope nintendoland failing to become the next wii sports means nintendo knocks that shit off in the future. bad enough they decided to make that and basically the same sort of game with game & wario right afterward.

 

[StreetsAhead]

i hope nintendoland failing to become the next wii sports means nintendo knocks that shit off in the future. bad enough they decided to make that and basically the same sort of game with game & wario right afterward.

"I wish Nintendo would stop making fun games because I don't like the genre they are."

Nintendo Land is a tougher sell than Wii Sports ever was and may not pull in the same numbers, but it doesn't mean it isn't fun. What is so bad about them making it as a launch title, as opposed to NSMBU or Wii Sports 3?

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Yakuza probably did 300k+

The Wii U would have to sell like 600k for the attach rate of NSMBU to beat it...

Ah true, NSMBU will have long legs anyway

 

[big_z]

one SMBC analyst mentioned 3-400k for launch - but nothing official. I'd expect some numbers tuesday i'd have thought.

i think 8-4 or another podcast mentioned nintendo saying wii U would launch with less units than wii in NA and even less in japan. 200-300k seems more likely.