Media Create Sales: Week 50, 2011 (Dec 12 - Dec 18)
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HamPster PamPster
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I don't suppose we can attribute FFXIII-2's poor sales to consumers reacting negatively to the game's ridiculous DLC plans?
I caved (I'm weak!) and read ending stuff in the |OT|. Most blatant set up for DLC this gen? Plus all the weapons and character skins covering up horrible default character designs ... fuck, I remember when FF were bursting with content and demo discs! Man, I loved PS1 era Square demo discs
I caved (I'm weak!) and read ending stuff in the |OT|. Most blatant set up for DLC this gen? Plus all the weapons and character skins covering up horrible default character designs ... fuck, I remember when FF were bursting with content and demo discs! Man, I loved PS1 era Square demo discs
Oh I didnt realize that, I thought both titles released last week. Carry on then.
We'll see. If it was supply constrained for most of the week, that could account for that number. Should be interesting.
Souldriver
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So it's only as good as Nintendogs?
But seriously. I'm asking because perhaps SE listened to the fanbase with their complaints about FFXIII, and they fixed those for XIII-2. But the fanbase doesn't buy it because they got their hands burned by XIII.
If such a thing was the case, this weeks bomb would be pretty sad.
SquareEnix: "Third time's the charm! Let's get working on FF XIII-3!"
airmangataosenai
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I know, I know. I'm being overly dramatic but it's just too funny. I coulda told them no one wanted this game, they would've been far better off just tweaking the character appearances and locals and cutting the story ties to XIII, the name is toxic. Same goes for Versus.
Femmeworth
Banned
Don't forget Kitase too, he needs the boot as well.
Tales has continued to sell consistently. Ps3s are still selling strong. Do not think "home gaming is dying" is the answer to what's happening here, at least it's not the only factor, for sure.
One thing to remember is that ff13 took a nosedive in price almost immediately after release. My guess is, all but the hardcore ff people are waiting for the inevitable discounts.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I'm not particularly upbeat about either DQX or FFXIV 2.0. SE really needs to not screw up both though.
Err, I dunno man, they wanted 1.2m shipped by April right? This week just assured they will likely sell through 1m or very near it (or more) by the end of this year (week 52). If thats not at least good, then Im not sure what would be.
In 2013 Platinum Games will have to make all Japanese console games
It really wasn't more supply constrained than MHP2G or MHP3 were after the first week (MH3G had a lower sell-through than both games) and Capcom has shipped 1 million now.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
True enough. Just trying to balance out some possible doom-saying later.
Vita is doomed without Monster Hunter.
More like, a lot of people didn't like XIII. I think that has been pretty clear for a while now.
Sequels and spinoffos to mainline FF/DQ games are necessary because of the increasing expenses for producing current-gen games while the sales for these mainline games are flat (or declining, in the case of FF). Remember that Square Enix reported a heavy loss last fiscal year.
At this point, I think they wanted to reuse assets to make a return on investment.
slaughterking
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I completely disagree. The notion that Japan moved from home consoles to handheld gaming is correct and nothing new, but you can't really apply that to a franchise like FF that takes heavy advantage of current technology and is expected to be a technical marvel. The original XIII proved that just two years ago. A lot of people were willing to buy a FF on homeconsoles and now XIII-2 just got completely rejected, because XIII was simply an awful game and people don't want more of that.
FFX-2 sold 1.9M week 1. So FFXIII-2 missed that bar slightly.
frankie_baby
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I'm thinking it'll drop again but not a lot, its still on a low userbase system so It's not gonna motor its way to the heights of the psp games, should hit the million last week of the year I'd say and settle down with nice legs in the new year
Paracelsus
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17 Kingdom Hearts games have been released in the time required to release one and a half FF game, Nomura got his game cockblocked by FFXIII-2 and people still begged for more of XIII.
The problem is there is nobody there ready to take their place. If you get rid of Toriyama and Kitase and Nomura, then SE's internal development studios are no longer in business.
Yes, next week will say us things about MH3G. I think it'll have a great third week, also due to the possible rise to Heaven of 3DS, which, if it happens, will surely help a lot.
Third week for the original
04./02. [WII] Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom) - 92,865 / 750,000 (-32%)
The comparison is somewhat "balanced", since, while MH3G's third week will be the biggest one of the year, MH3's third week was an Holiday too.
Third week for the original
04./02. [WII] Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom) - 92,865 / 750,000 (-32%)
The comparison is somewhat "balanced", since, while MH3G's third week will be the biggest one of the year, MH3's third week was an Holiday too.
Didn't they say they cut so much art assets from FFXIII that they could make an entire game out of it? So it should be substantially cheaper, still this is not what they expected and/or wanted.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Shocking figures for FFXIII-2. Absolutely terrible. I don't see where Square go from here, the FF brand is ruined now. I think they should get Versus out of the door and rest the brand for a long time, maybe sit out the whole of the next generation and focus on PS5 launch for FFVIIR.
Souldriver
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The "doomed" cries are really premature imo. I doubt you can deduct a lot of a systems life solely based on first week numbers? And the 324k from the Vita makes predictions even less easy, since imho this number is smack down in the middle of the "bomb-success" spectrum.
We'll just have to wait and see how the Vita fares in the coming weeks.
yellowjacket25
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So how much of the FFXIII-2 bomba can be attributed to the fact that they launched the same week as the Vita, and the week after a new Monster Hunter? Seems like really poor timing on their part. The top 2 consoles sold close to 700k units and FFXIII-2 isn't on either of those consoles.
they'll probably end up going third party.
Risk Breaker
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lol, my bad, I read it too fast. You are right.
It really seemed like Vita Musou wasn't really generating much expectation. Maybe too much 6 and 6:XL?
gundamkyoukai
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If anybody should be fired it should be Wada.
Fuck up with FFXIV , made XIII-2 .
At least Nomura games sell and make money .
Mario or Kart.
I would say Kart.
lol
is it "Dear brother" directed by Dezaki ( can't remember the japanese name ) ?
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
How does it's 2nd week compare to the PSP games actually? I'm curious if the percentage is similar?
Yeah, I'm pretty worried about DQX as well, based on FFXI and FFXIV results. It's cool that SE are doing MMORPGs, but maybe they should've created a new IP for that, instead of using their biggest brands.
The damage is massive. It would take a goddamn Christmas miracle to get Final Fantasy to have the previous mindshare it used to have.
ffxi was amazing and it made them a lot of money.
Souldriver
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lol
And I predict DQX will bomb as well, so S-E seems in big trouble. I know this is a touchy subject, but I really think they should do a dual Wii-3DS or Wii-WiiU release for that game.
Edit: wait, they are doing the Wii-WiiU thing, right? Forgot about that.
frankie_baby
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ANyone in Japan got any idea what 3ds stocks are like in shops? 3 colours are sold out on amazon at the moment and they ain't getting any mmore til the end me the week
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
1.9 million
Risk Breaker
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Not irreparable but really big. I would expect people not giving a fuck. Hell, I want Versus as much as anyone but right now, I don't give a fuck. And they will continue to shit games to the market and then wonder "uh? what happened :O".
grrr.
sixteen-bit
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Nice to see Blazblue chart on PS3.