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Media Create Sales: Week 50, 2012 (Dec 10 - Dec 16)
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BishopLamont
Banned
Even if MH4 was 3DS/Vita, the Vita would still be fucked. The PSP didn't revive just because of MH, the DS was already on its way out and third parties just capitalized on the MH popularity. It isn't likely this would be the case again. The PSP has never sold this badly, with or without MH. Vita is fundamentally fucked, and there's no going back. 14k during the holiday season? Its selling like its a normal week, its gonna be doing 2-5k at this rate next year.
Hero of Legend
Member
Huh?
BishopLamont
Banned
In terms of support, even Nintendo wasn't doing much for it.
metalslimer
Member
Relative to Vita's normal lineup right? Because looking at it by itself the lineup
I don't see anything outside of Soul Sacrifice and maybe Tales of Hearts breaking 100k. I don't see all of this bringing Vita to a baseline above 10k and then once all these drop what happens next? One Piece would have been a big catch, but it's also on PS3 where it is going to sell the majority of its copies and is likely not going to match the first game.
Speaking of Wii U, it never ceases to amaze me how badly the Wii fell off a cliff in Japan. It should have been able to sell 15 million easy in Japan maybe even 20 by the end.
test_account
XP-39C²
I wonder if this game benefits from the WiiU game touchpad.
It shall be very interesting to see how this holds up in the next year.This discussion makes me realize: probably only a few more weeks until the WiiUS3 ratio is similar to the Vita:3DS ratio.
Out of curiousity, which stupid decitions have they made in the recent years.
I wouldnt say that. I'm not sure how many games Nintendo released, but the overall support on the DS was very strong. The PSP craze started in 2008 sometime. In 2008, the DS saw over 200 releases. In 2009, it also saw over 200 releases. In 2010, it saw about 170 releases. That is about 600 DS games released in 3 years. The DS hardware sales were also very strong in these years. It wasnt until 2011 where the DS was on its way out (seeing about 40 releases and a big drop in hardware sales (also affected by the release of the 3DS)).
pieatorium
Member
No PC version of DD, SF x Tekken (the execution not the idea), on disc dlc, QTEvil 6
test_account
XP-39C²
Thanks for the answer, but i should have specified business decisions, sorry
I dont know if Dragon's Dogma would have sold a lot on PC. I havnt played SFxTekken or RE6, so i can comment much on that. On disc DLC probably affected the sales very little i think.pieatorium
Member
It would have done decently imo there is a big base of RPG players on PC
They recently downgraded their sales forcast citing RE6 as one of the reasons (the main one being MH delay but they wouldn't bring up RE if it wasn't significant)
electroplankton
Banned
Yeah, that's a pretty poor line-up for a platform that desperately needs games and system sellers.
Visited Yodobashi Camera's game store in Shinjuku yesterday:
• As expected, lots of activity around PlayStation/Nintendo sections;
• Stock for Paper Mario download cards was gone;
• Animal Crossing still sold out;
• Wii U definitely in stock, but selling like hotcakes – mostly premium sets;
• Increased interest around Pokémon Black 2/White 2.
Also visited National Azabu yesterday:
• Reservations for cooked roasted chickens no longer being accepted;
• Turkeys still in stock.
• As expected, lots of activity around PlayStation/Nintendo sections;
• Stock for Paper Mario download cards was gone;
• Animal Crossing still sold out;
• Wii U definitely in stock, but selling like hotcakes – mostly premium sets;
• Increased interest around Pokémon Black 2/White 2.
Also visited National Azabu yesterday:
• Reservations for cooked roasted chickens no longer being accepted;
• Turkeys still in stock.
That's pretty interesting
Does anyone know how much the best selling Paper Mario game in Japan sold?
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
shout next time, i was in Shinjuku most of yesterday!
pieatorium
Member
Suprised that there are turkeys still available they usually have the best legs through the holidays
*rimshot*
*rimshot*
Super Paper Mario - 505,491 (famitsu).
metalslimer
Member
Ugh...this looks like it will pass 400k though.
It seems to be doing well digitally and its still early so It may pass it up eventually.
Less than stellar Wii support?
For example, I won't even start talking about what they did after RE4 port, despite its really good numbers, because there's already been a ton of discussions about this. :-\
(honestly though, their support as a whole wasn't that bad, but still disappointing nevertheless IMHO)
electroplankton
Banned
It always amazes me how Nintendo was able to replicate Animal Crossing craziness.
slaughterking
Member
I can already see the worst Paper Mario replacing the second worst as the best selling one. Meh.
StreetsAhead
Member
Well, it's the first hand-held one in 6+ years, with a crapton of new stuff to do and buy. Desire was pent up, rather than diminished by waiting.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Not really. If you were looking up numbers you might have seen only the 2.5 million from its initial release, but with budget versions added in it's over 4 million. I think FF VII, DQ VII, and DQ IX passed 4 million, but that's it.
Well yeah, just doing all those mega moves would help.PSFan said:
Is there really a market for that? It was done on Wii to whet apetites before MH3 released, but in this case you'd have old ports coming in on a system that already has a partially-new (3G) and all-new (4) entry.Hero of Legend said:
MH was bigger than PSP. Once the portable market leader no longer had hardware incapable of playing the MH series as people knew it, it was probably a lot easier to be convinced by Nintendo suits than Sony suits.Baki said:
Oh yeah, if we count them it's indeed one of the best selling titles. I don't know if he were counting the budget re-releases though. If he counted them, then I'm sorry for not understanding him XD
electroplankton
Banned
I know, but that game is sold-out since the launch, and second-hand prices are on average 1500yen higher than the retail price, I mean, it's something that doesn't happen often.
StreetsAhead
Member
Well, that's true. It's selling quicker than WW, after all. Not even Nintendo were expecting that, it seems. It's sales post-New Year's could be insane.
Tangentially, I wonder if Fire Emblem, AC:NL, Luigi's Mansion, and Monster Hunter Ultimate can help boost up 3DS in the West next year.
electroplankton
Banned
Not likely, but at least they could sustain its sales in a period thart is not particularly well-known for being pro-handheld.
nintendors
Member
Nintendo seems so focused on its mainland compared to other areas....
is (by any chance) the strong yen influencing this focus to try and minimize losses ??
is (by any chance) the strong yen influencing this focus to try and minimize losses ??
pieatorium
Member
I assume this is in regard to the EU situation, if so I would think not since the price for the console there is higher than the equivalent price in Japan.
electroplankton
Banned
Not that was different a generation ago...
grimshawish
Banned
The strong yen thing is a thought I've had. The dollar is in a better state than the Euro so best bet investments there.
However the pound is relatively strong as its being used like the Yen, so obviously the market has a big part in all this as well.
I think Nintendo will focus on consoles in the US and chase some of that handheld good signs in Europe.
Something is going on. I think Nintendo certainly want some profit again. That's their main priority right now.
However the pound is relatively strong as its being used like the Yen, so obviously the market has a big part in all this as well.
I think Nintendo will focus on consoles in the US and chase some of that handheld good signs in Europe.
Something is going on. I think Nintendo certainly want some profit again. That's their main priority right now.
Sammy Samusu
Member
MH Vita is unlikely, but there's still a chance. I've said this before, but there is something going on (may or may not be related to MH or Vita).
Anyway, so many things to talk about!
confirmed?
Tsutaya: http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/rank/game.html?r=W090
Inivisible AKB Vita, supposedly its big holiday game.
Anyway, so many things to talk about!
Chickens > Turkeys >
Vita
Tsutaya: http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/rank/game.html?r=W090
Inivisible AKB Vita, supposedly its big holiday game.
electroplankton
Banned
MH Vita is unlikely, but there's still a chance. I've said this before, but there is something going on (may or may not be related to MH or Vita).
Anyway, so many things to talk about!
Chickens > Turkeys >confirmed?Vita
Tsutaya: http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/rank/game.html?r=W090
Inivisible AKB Vita, supposedly its big holiday game.
The power of multi.
test_account
XP-39C²
Yeah, Dragon's Dogma might have sold good enough on PC to maintain a good profit.
True about RE6, but making RE6 was not a bad business decision though. It was more about game design maybe (at least from the anecdotal evdience i've read).
Based on the RE4 Wii numbers, i guess that it could have been worth a shot to make a RE5 version too, unless that required too much work (RE4 Wii is basically a Gamecube port afterall). But as you say, the Capcom support wasnt really that bad on the Wii.
I wonder how this will affect the WiiU. It seems more likely to me that multiplatform will be the future for consoles in Japan as well (as it is in the west).
electroplankton
Banned
400k were shipped in total, though. I'm not sure whether they shipped so much in the first weeks.
MH Vita is unlikely, but there's still a chance. I've said this before, but there is something going on (may or may not be related to MH or Vita).
Anyway, so many things to talk about!
Chickens > Turkeys >confirmed?Vita
Tsutaya: http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/rank/game.html?r=W090
Inivisible AKB Vita, supposedly its big holiday game.
You are amazing
test_account
XP-39C²
Already posted in the japanese Vita thread, but thought it was worth mentioning it here as well. It looks like another Atelier game is coming for the Vita this spring, Atelier Meruru Plus:
http://gematsu.com/2012/12/retailer-outs-atelier-meruru-plus-for-ps-vita
http://gematsu.com/2012/12/retailer-outs-atelier-meruru-plus-for-ps-vita
I wonder why they skipped Rorona...
Absolutely.
Yet, it still baffles me how they managed to - basically - nullify the RE4-effect with Umbrella Chronicles. :-\
Sammy Samusu
Member
Doubt it, it's a GameCube kinda lineup (not that's a bad thing quality wise)
electroplankton
Banned
Well, back then Animal Crossing wasn't as popular as after the DS one.
True, but I think that audience may have bolted in the west. Not necessarily because the iPhone was always going to dominate, but because it's ugly as fuck and too expensive. People have different expectations now. But this is OT
What's ugly as fuck? Animal Crossing? 3DS? What? But this AC seems to be the turning point of the franchise...
It was always going to be released on PS3, Vita is just an afterthought. One could argue about Wii U's low userbase but at this point, i don't think the port has even begun development.