I agree with you, in fact I think that also 100K LTD would be bad for a MGS episode.
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Media Create Sales: Week 8, 2012 (Feb 20 - Feb 26)
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I agree with you, in fact I think that also 100K LTD would be bad for a MGS episode.
Over 9000.
Failing to see how this could be reality.
If PS3 remains unimpeded for a few more years, maybe, but Wii U should start taking a good bit of that market and even PS4 would impede further PS3 increases. PS3 is essentially the *only* option for Japanese gamers wanting regular console game support. Give a better option, and the users will move. And well before it crosses Wii's LTD.
What do you guys expect to be the best seller here? I guess KH3D should end up selling best, if Nintendo promotes it enough Kid Icarus second. But the rest?
I think Girls RPG will be a surprise hit.
Presumably they were hoping for profitability when they greenlit the game.
I don't think that's likely.
RurouniZel
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Some overlap possibly, but I doubt it's the same audience. Besides, Love Plus has a history on DS platforms, Miku does not.
That's about what I expect as well. I see KH3D possibly debuting at 350K
PS2 x PS3 in 2007:
PS3 spikes, in order:
- Dynasty Warriors Gundam - 171k
- Hot Shots Golf 5 - 152k
- Dynasty Warriors 6 - 188k (followed by Winning Eleven 2008 - 141k - and holiday season)
Prediction time? (lifetime numbers)
Kingdom Hearts - 500k-600k
Hatsune Miku - 200k-300k
Mario & Sonic - 100k-200k
Kid Icarus - 100k-200k
Girls RPG - 50k-100k
Metal Gear Solid - 50k-100k
*shrugs*
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Looking at the chart it's clear as to why PSP is outsellig Vita; it's still getting plenty of new releases.
Maybe it was a mistake to release Vita in Japan over the west for the holidays. Especially with a Japanese market that's still happily snapping up PSP games.
Maybe it was a mistake to release Vita in Japan over the west for the holidays. Especially with a Japanese market that's still happily snapping up PSP games.
KirbYuuYuu
Member
Unfortunately, Japan is also the main creator of games for handheld systems so they're kinda boned in that regard.
electroplankton
Banned
Remember that 50k is the shipment of the LE, which apparently went sold out fast.
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Goodbye my love.
judging from what we know of Vita future lineup i have the feeling that this time around the sony portable will be living of western sales while struggling in japan... kinda like the opposite of what happened with the PSP...
we just have to wait and see how much the western market (and i mean devs and publishers) are willing to support a portable console.
chickdigger802
Banned
Man maybe one day when I'm wasted I will try out love plus( one of them is fan translated right?).
Might just be me, but the whole Pokemon thingy feels like some cloak and dagger stuff going on.
Pretty much a warning shot is fired. Reminding Sony that, yes, Pokemon will be hitting 3ds.
Or that's how my neptunia fanfic is coming along.
Might just be me, but the whole Pokemon thingy feels like some cloak and dagger stuff going on.
Pretty much a warning shot is fired. Reminding Sony that, yes, Pokemon will be hitting 3ds.
Or that's how my neptunia fanfic is coming along.
Anasui Kishibe
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The Emperor
Member
PS2 x PS3 in 2007:
PS3 spikes, in order:
- Dynasty Warriors Gundam - 171k
- Hot Shots Golf 5 - 152k
- Dynasty Warriors 6 - 188k (followed by Winning Eleven 2008 - 141k - and holiday season)
This is why I think Vita has potential to still be big in the end like PS3 became.
Even though 3DS will be getting more support than Wii could ever muster up.
Magicpaint
Member
That KH number would be terrible.
Well not terrible, but that's hardly higher than KH 358/2 Days.
I expect at least 400k, very possibly more.
Better known as Gundabump.
Criminal Upper
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Sony might as well have not announced Vita if they're hoping western third party support will bail them out. Most western companies are nearly brain dead in terms of their support of dedicated handhelds.
the key difference is that while PS3 didn't have much competition, vita does.
devs where making games that just PS3 and 360 could support, leaving the Wii out of the equation.
The portable market is a whole different beast, most support will be toward the weaker nintendo system, as it have always been in the portable market.
West is a whole different story.
slaughterking
Member
Of course it matters as DS-only owners are not forced to upgrade to the 3DS.
No, it really can't.
I think it all depends on price and how long the PS3 will continue to get high-quality games. At the current rate, the PS3 is on pace to sell maybe 1 million more than the Wii this year. It's a long shot, but if the PS3 gets a price drop to a mass market price that can push to an average increase of +10,000 units where it currently stands, it could tie the Wii in maybe two or three years right as the PS4 is speculated to hit.
Too many assumptions though. I don't think it will happen, but who knows. I never would have thought we'd be having this discussion three years ago.
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That's what everyone has been saying, anyway: if the Vita gets big games, it can not be a total failure.
dat goal post
Even with Final Mix it'll likely just miss a million. I think the only KH games that could be a million seller is another numbered entry. But it has been so long since the last numbered entry that the brand may have been diluted a bit.
RurouniZel
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I'm capping week one sales at 450k myself. I'd love to be wrong, obviously.
KillerMan91
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Well Birth by Sleep didn't do a million in Japan and it was released to massive PSP userbase. Don't know why KH 3D would suddenly sell more.
RurouniZel
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Sora and Riku?
slaughterking
Member
You know, I always wondered what people mean when they point at the PS3 and speak of a remarkable turnaround. The launch of the Slim was a slight turn of fate and there are a bunch of reasons why the PS3 outlives the Wii, but the life cycle of the PS3 is really not encouraging at all when you're thinking of the Vita.
Ventus/Vanitas/shut up Nomura is basically Sora.
Anasui Kishibe
Banned
I don't expect it being a massive bestseller to be honest...
I'd like to be wrong anywho
JoshuaJSlone
Member
I know userbase isn't the only factor, but 3DS will have less than a quarter the userbase DS had when 358/2 launched, and less than half the userbase PSP had when Birth by Sleep launched.
Though it's worth noting that the original did pretty OK, and launched when PS2 was around 8 million.
RurouniZel
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In theory, yes. But this time it's the genuine Sora on a system with a Analogue nub and not shit 3D graphics. I sense potential to reach BbS in LTD and possibly exceed it, if only marginally.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I'd like Falcom to see the light and start using those 3DS kits. With more equalized media costs this time around, there's more incentive for them to go multiplatform and that 3DS base is going to look better and better as time goes on. All their old PC (Ys VI engine) and PSP games would make for good ports, even their Vita stuff so far looks like it'd translate pretty painlessly to 3DS.
What light? I doubt Ys IV is going to perform considerably worse than its PSP peers. The fact they're investing in PyreEngine should tell you they're not all too interested in Nintendo hardware.
I also really doubt they'd handle any ports internally. They shipped off the Kiseki PC and Vita ports to outside the company, why would 3DS be any different?
If that game manages to sell 50k first week Konami must prepare Peace Walker 3DS.
BassForever
Member
So we're still waiting on Persona 4 Golden to save Vita?
I don't think anyone believes a port will save Vita.
BassForever
Member
I don't either, but that's the only thing coming that could help it in Japan correct?