I agree. Literally, he says: If you compare to a 2 week period, PS Vita system sales have become 4 times.
In simple terms, probably around 70+k units. Tomorrow's gonna be interesting.
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Media Create Sales: Week 8, 2013 (Feb 18 - Feb 24)
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I agree. Literally, he says: If you compare to a 2 week period, PS Vita system sales have become 4 times.
In simple terms, probably around 70+k units. Tomorrow's gonna be interesting.
Call Me Maybe
Banned
I agree. Literally, he says: If you compare to a 2 week period, PS Vita system sales have become 4 times.
In simple terms, probably around 70+k units. Tomorrow's gonna be interesting.
Sounds good! Anything less than 70,000 units, and I honestly would have been a bit disappointed at least on the inside, so I am glad that it seems to be doing well.
[PSP] Conception: Please Give Birth to My Child! <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) {2012.04.26} (¥6.279) - 28.068 / 50.002
Famitsu data. Why am I posting this? Because they just announced the sequel slated for this Summer. The surprise(?) is that it's for both 3DS and Vita.
Famitsu data. Why am I posting this? Because they just announced the sequel slated for this Summer. The surprise(?) is that it's for both 3DS and Vita.
The surprise is that Spike Chunsoft's making a sequel with sales like that.
jesusraz
Member
Niche game hitting more than 50,000 sales? No, not too surprising, surely...Perhaps trying to ride the strength of Senran Kagura's performance?
We will know at last which is the console of choice for creepy japanese gamers.
StreetsAhead
Member
Potentially they could have any of the following, I suppose:
1. Pikmin
2. WarioWare
3. Yoshi game
4. Kirby
5. F-Zero
6. Star Fox
7. Advance Wars
8. 'Super Princess Peach'
9. Metroid
10. Zelda
11. Rhythm Heaven
12. Mario Party
13. Tingle game
14. Pokemon Ranger/other spin offs (Conquest 2!)
15. Diddy Kong Racing
16. Chibi Robo
17. Golden Sun
18. Mario Strikers/Basketball
19. Picross 3D
20. Wario Platformer
21. Flip-note studio
22. Monolith Soft Kyoto's game
23. WaveRace/1080 Snowboarding
24. Treasure's game (if it's not above)
What about sequels to current games? SM3DL2? Fire Emblem Awakening 2? Sakura Sumarai 2? Pushmo 3? What about Ice Climber, Balloon Fight, or other NES revivals on the eshop?
So does anyone think Sony should work to distance themselves from the Otaku crowd? They seem attached at the hip, but it feels like it's limiting their system's appeal these days -- sort of like comic books being limited in the US by their rabid nerd base.
This has its advantages, obviously. You can rely on your nerd base. But it also limits the potential for growth, because general consumers tend to distance themselves from such cultures and crowds.
I could also be completely wrong. Maybe Otaku are more respected in Japan than the comic book nerd-type is in the US. This was just a thought, and not a fully formed idea (which is why I'm asking).
This has its advantages, obviously. You can rely on your nerd base. But it also limits the potential for growth, because general consumers tend to distance themselves from such cultures and crowds.
I could also be completely wrong. Maybe Otaku are more respected in Japan than the comic book nerd-type is in the US. This was just a thought, and not a fully formed idea (which is why I'm asking).
Hell no. Right now, it's the only crowd they have. They ought to be securing an exclusive, adult-rated Love Plus as I type.
Yes. Somewhat. It didn't work for NEC.
pieatorium
Member
Comic book stuff is mainstream popular in the west, as long as it's not an actual comic book.
I don't think Sony has the luxury of distancing itself from anything interested in supporting Vita.
I don't think Sony has the luxury of distancing itself from anything interested in supporting Vita.
No. I don't think there's much indication that the crowd is actually hurting growth. There's definitely an otaku crowd on PS3 and 3DS (PS systems moreso I'm sure) but they don't hurt much. It's all they got on the Vita atm.
Not with the PS4 since the otaku are the only ones who will pony up that price (whatever-ish it is) for now I think but with the PS3 definitely, we see they are doing it already.
electroplankton
Banned
LovePlus, as it is known, is dead in my opinion. They ruined the IP so badly that no one will buy a new one, unless they do a complete reboot of the series.
Doesn't matter because when they read my pitch for 'Tits vs. Tentacles', they'll have their 'tentpole' first party release.
Holy shit lol.
The 360 also had bursts of those sorts of games for a little while, but supposedly it was attributable more to how easy it was to develop for the 360 than anything else.
I'll take 20.
shinra-bansho
Member
Be it 50K or 80K it's not going to be a revival. I'm not sure what people are worried about either way - Vita is still dead long-term.
Also, again, I really doubt NSMBU sells 2M long term without being given away for free.
Also, again, I really doubt NSMBU sells 2M long term without being given away for free.
NEC did one of the biggest fuck up in videogame history though.
PS2 was home to both "normal people" and otakus and was incredibly successful regardless. Trying to leave the Otaku base behind, would probably a rather dumb move -- especially in Vita's case, since that's pretty much the only audience that's actively interested in the platform right now.
electroplankton
Banned
Indeed. Otaku is not the mass of people that creates million sellers. Not even 500k sellers. I think the best selling "otaku" series is Project Diva, and it didn't perform so hot on Vita.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Why would anybody be worried that the system somehow finds a niche and stabilizes at some kind of okay level? How could that possibly be considered a bad thing?
And a niche is what Sony should be going for with the Vita. They should cater that device completely around the otaku in every way possible. So I totally second/kickstart Dave's idea there.
Well, I don't think Konami shares your opinion. They've been teasing something regarding their dating sim line of games for a while now.
I think Konami should port the 3DS Love Plus to Vita with a tonne of bug fixes and additional content. The audience for those kinds of games appear to be on Vita, and it should be a cheap enough project.
Would be a lot better if they made a sequel on the 3DS tbh
electroplankton
Banned
That's not automatically true. LovePlus is not very in line with games like Monster Monpiece or Senran Kagura. It's a 360° dating sim that doesn't have over-sized breasts and plenty of girls to choose among all the stereotypes. It has its moments where you have to look at your girlfriend and such, but it's less visually extreme than stuffs you can find in Demon Gaze, for example.
PSP was the otaku platform, and still LovePlus sold a lot on DS; it sold more than any other otaku game on PSP but Hatsune Miku. The first one sold close to 300k, 3 times what Tokimeki Memorial 4 did on PSP.
Also, New LovePlus is officialy recognized as the game of bugs. They had to withdraw all the copies from the market. It's not something you can polish and resell again. Hence, for me, either a reboot with new girls or a new IP.
I've thought about this, and it's entirely possible this may still be true.
But to an extent, I think "normal people" were buying the PS2 because there were no alternatives really geared towards them. Now that real, viable substitutes exist that focus primarily on the average consumer, I think a union of the two markets becomes increasingly less likely.
Again, could be totally wrong. I'm basing this logic primarily on my knowledge of western markets, where the above reasoning certainly applies. The PS2 was able to capture the casual base, but only because casual alternatives didn't really exist. Now that they do, there is basically zero chance of a "core" focused system like the PS3 or Vita doing the same again.
Hero of Legend
Member
Why not just make an deluxe release with some new content and fix all the bugs? Hell Konami released Frontier Gate Plus on PSP.
I think it'd really work for Konami, indirectly advertising it as the fixed version. How they let the game go so broken I'll never know.
What were the bugs, at least the worst ones?
shinra-bansho
Member
Wouldn't targeting Otaku's essentially put the Vita in the 360's shoes even more firmly?
Schadenfraude, or the spectacle of watching a trainwreck, perhaps. There's a sort of "Why won't you just die?!" air persisting around Vita.
Glorified G
Member
Could you explain. Cause this comes across as an oxymoron and makes no sense to me. Every console will eventually be dropped from the market place and no longer sold to the consumers 'long-term'.
The 360 failing in Japan doesn't have anything to do with otaku (there might be an argument that otaku are better at ignoring poor marketing, though). MS didn't know how to market the 360, and more importantly, it didn't really learn enough (or possibly anything at all) from trying to market the first XBox.
test_account
XP-39C²
What if they sell about the same amount of copies? Hehe =)
Did they really pull the game from the market? I know they did an update patch.
I saw one on Youtube that crashed the game. I'm not sure if that particular bug was a widespread bug or not though.
shinra-bansho
Member
Perhaps I should have defined long term. A sustained recovery is unlikely. It will return to sub-10K sales in a month's time or so and continue it's zombie plod in a software wasteland towards discontinuation.
He means that 3:rd party devs won't put their big and medium sized games on Vita since 3DS has a 10 million user base and all those games are already out/coming to it
StreetsAhead
Member
3DS has around 10X the user base of Vita in a little less than 1/2 the time. That's not an insignificant difference and short of Soul Sacarifice selling 1M copies, to mostly new users, (it *probably* won't) it's not going to have much of a long term affect on the platform.
There's a big difference between otaku focused systems and "core" focused systems
Also PSP had plenty of both. Even the DS did have them, to some extent (otaku games, I mean).
test_account
XP-39C²
Dont you mean in about twice the time? The 3DS is over 2 years old now, the Vita is about 1 year and 3 months old. Or am i misunderstanding something?
StreetsAhead
Member
Yes, sorry. I've not been practicing English much lately. The 3DS has sold 10X the Vita in a little under twice the time.
ambientmystic
Member
It's time~~~~~~
Where's the week 9 MediaCreate thread? =D
Where's the week 9 MediaCreate thread? =D
Sammy Samusu
Member
test_account
XP-39C²
No worries, i was just wondering in case i misunderstood something
metalslimer
Member
Which is why I really wonder why people are placing their hope on March's sales. Whatever happens in April,May,June,July,August have already been decided.
ambientmystic
Member
Seriously?
What's with the hold up, they had to do a recount or something to account for the unbelievable Sony Vita numbers?
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
Normally hits 8 AM Eastern Time.
The upcoming thread will be hilarious.
it's gonna be awesome tomorrow.
no matter what, one side will be in tears. Personally, I don't really give a shit who it is so long as I see some working of dem tear glands.