Thanks, that puts things into better perspective.
Things are looking good for the PS4 so far. Its all up to Sony now to secure proper software.
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Media Create Sales: Week 8, 2014 (Feb 17 - Feb 23)
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Thanks, that puts things into better perspective.
Things are looking good for the PS4 so far. Its all up to Sony now to secure proper software.
Cosmo Clock 21
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There's still like at least six months before MH4G drops given they just announced it; what's going to keep 3DS hardware strong week over week until then?
MH4G comes out in the fall. So that is still pretty far off.
Exactly, everyone wants a Pokémon x something just wants it so it can fulfill their childhood fantasy
Heck, I bet people on here would want a Pokémon developed by Platinum games
I assume there are collectors who want physical copy of that game.
3DS looks like it has hit saturation point, plenty of software to buy but it seems that everyone already owns one. PS3 is now on its way out with sales dropping. Will be a zombie soon like psp, which means Sony has to push more JP decks to the ps4. Yakuza sales like GT6 prove that user base means jack shit at the end of a gen.
GreenMakoEyes
Member
Wii U finally catched up with X360 LTD sales.
Knack Devs buying copies to support the game?
vicissitudes
Banned
1. We don't seem to have total software sales for the PS4, only the top 20 so far. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
2. If the top 20 in December is inflated, so are the top 20 PSV / PS3 software numbers.
The point is that Sony systems never launch with huge software numbers. Software is slow in the beginning and spread out across many small 3rd party titles. PS4 software is performing better than PS3 software and PSV software did.
mrmickfran
Member
OMG
PS3 sold 82k, PS4 sold 309k
For retail PS3 had a 0,82 attach rate and Vita 0,92. I don't know what you try to show.
Well, it's in line with the other Yakuza spinoff. But you are correct the user base is only as good as the amount of units you can sell to them. Each game has it's fans and a general appeal, if the appeal can't reach far outside the fan base then no matter how you try, it won't matter if there are 1 million consoles out of there or 20 million. You need to look no further than say Wii and Tales of Graces for example.
This is why some developers stick to platform or an ecosystem. Moving a fanbase a risky business and if you can't appeal to the extra user base then it's all for naught.
One of the best gifs to come out of this, for sure.
Saying the PS4 had good launch hardware sales =/= my view on its future outlook.
I think it won't do much better than the PS4 as a console in today's market with mobile taking over.
The reasons are definitely obvious, its market has saturated. They need to
Anything can always be worse and better, there is no point in mentioning that
3DS has reached saturation.
Pokemon x Monster Hunter......................................................................................please don't suggest that.
I'm saying that as a fan of both series.
What would a 3DSi entail? It would already have to be in the works to be something that they can launch later on.
No...it wouldn't. I don't know if you play MH, but the only thing that would be fitting is if there is a Pikachu costume or something for Felynes.
Magicpaint
Member
Man, PS4 software sales aren't nearly as good as the hardware. Yakuza Ishin did very well though, thanks especially to there being a PS3 version. 3DS also dropping . I wonder if Harvest Moon next week can stop this free fall a bit like DQ did 
He's got the numbers right there in his post, and for some reason you cut them out and replaced them with "bla bla bla".
Well he's right about all Sony systems launching in Japan with low (<1) attach rate (at least in Media Create charts). Including PS2 IIRC.M_Night said:
But if people used "Matrix was part of the attach-rate" excuse on PS2, we could argue "all those PS3 cross-gens are probably upgrade-purchases" for PS4
and Vita sold more yet sold less software, despite Knack being bundled.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Complete Knack global saturation. Pretty average PS4 debut software sales for pretty average japanese lineup. Wonder if Japanese home console consumers will find themselves forced to invest more heavily into western titles now going forward since its clear the japanese home console market is a shitshoot. Then, not everything is a GTA in mindshare.
Nintendo is in total crisis if the 3DS continues to dip down and down. Far more serious than giving up the home console ghost.
Nintendo is in total crisis if the 3DS continues to dip down and down. Far more serious than giving up the home console ghost.
Say what? Just because PS4 had a title selling 80.000 copies then is performing better software wise than PS3 and Vita?
Sorry, you don't know what you're talking about.
cm osi
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it looks like he's really saying "pls no", there's any youtube video from that interview?
And_Gignac
Member
3DS is dying. Not surprising, taking into account that smartphone penetration in Japan is expected to go up from 40something to 70something this year.
Nintendo NEEDS an Android based smartphone; third pillar emergency.
Nintendo NEEDS an Android based smartphone; third pillar emergency.
vicissitudes
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If you want to compare things that way:
PS4 Top 20 / Total = 209097 / 309154 = 0.676
PS3 Top 20 / Total = 56510 / 81639 = 0.692
Virtually the same, despite the fact that PS3 was heavily constrained hardware-wise, AND we're not even including Knack. Certainly not the "bad software" sales many were proclaiming. Simply the nature of Sony launches.
Hellraider
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Aren't the extra Knack sales from those who imported a PS4? Or is it too obvious and no one mentioning it is the joke?
PS4 software as a whole was pretty terrible as expected, although I was positively suprised with Ishin. Pretty damn fine ratio and it bodes well for future Playstation multiplatform releases (whenever those get announced lol). Dynasty Warriors ratio was pretty terrible but let's hope the delay from the PS3/V versions is the main reason for it.
3DS desperately needs DQ11. No 2DS XL, no Pocket Hunter no nothing else can give it a decent boost. A huge title like that with a second wave of titles from Nintendo (things like Fire Emblem for example are due for a sequel) could at the very least not make the overall hardware numbers of the year so freaking terrible. I'm not optimistic though. The dream is dead and I really hope Nintendo understands that.
Next week is Vita's last year "revival" right? Things will be interesting. PS4 will be free falling until Ground Zeroes and I'm not even sure by how much MGS will stop that.
PS4 software as a whole was pretty terrible as expected, although I was positively suprised with Ishin. Pretty damn fine ratio and it bodes well for future Playstation multiplatform releases (whenever those get announced lol). Dynasty Warriors ratio was pretty terrible but let's hope the delay from the PS3/V versions is the main reason for it.
3DS desperately needs DQ11. No 2DS XL, no Pocket Hunter no nothing else can give it a decent boost. A huge title like that with a second wave of titles from Nintendo (things like Fire Emblem for example are due for a sequel) could at the very least not make the overall hardware numbers of the year so freaking terrible. I'm not optimistic though. The dream is dead and I really hope Nintendo understands that.
Next week is Vita's last year "revival" right? Things will be interesting. PS4 will be free falling until Ground Zeroes and I'm not even sure by how much MGS will stop that.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Because they are just download codes.
gigantor21
Member
Seriously. That emphasizes how "second tier" the Japanese market is to Sony now as much as the later release date, if not moreso.
Really?
The PS4 software sales look decent so far imo because you have to take into account that the system didn't launch during the holidays like other systems and came with a free game.
Personally, if I buy a PS4 and it comes with a free game that's all I'm taking home. I also have PS+ so there's free games from that to keep me occupied as well.
Personally, if I buy a PS4 and it comes with a free game that's all I'm taking home. I also have PS+ so there's free games from that to keep me occupied as well.
Knack is pre installed?
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Yeah, that's strange, but up until now, Media Create has not counted download bundle-games, but other bundle-games they have counted. So maybe it's just a mistake and they thought Knack is a physical copy?
It isn't pre-installed. The download PIN was included.
So technically you could sell it, though I doubt if anyone want to buy it
AI partners?
PS4 software sales aren't as bad as people say, but your comparision does not make sense at all. Number 20 in Mediacreate is at 6000 this week. It was at 28000 during PSVita launch.
Here is the top50 from Vita first week. It looks like number 48 sold 10k units
So you've omited every game that sold between 6k and 28k. 6 of those titles are above 10k, Ridge Racer and Disgaea are probably slightly above 20.000 units. You're taking different samples and yet you compare them as if both were the same. As a result it doesn't make sense.
No harm intented, I just think you're wrong.
Spiegel tried to tell you but you don't get it. The only PS4 that didn't chart is NBA 2K14.
This the complete software
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Guess we won't see this kind of graph again for a while...
The power of Knack and his chizzled tight ass!
Pancakes R Us
Member
3DS' biggest days are over. Nearly all the major titles/franchises have seen a release. I expect to hear rumblings of the next system this year and a release next year. In the mean time, a price cut would be welcome.
Well saying those platforms are equal to PS4 when PS4 has F2P games as well as a pack-in at launch is kinda silly IMO.
Hellraider
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Knowing Nintendo I'm expecting two years of Wii-like drought for it before any real showings of the successor. At least there will be third parties this time.
Retailers won't care.
I don't care if there are F2P games. The comparison started with retail software. Vita must have sold more as digital if we go there.
Not even close.
Cygnus X-1
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Nintendo's business is starting to get under attack in Japan too. If this will not cause a reaction, I don't know what will.
In my opinion, Nintendo is in serious danger to end up being unable to be part of this industry anymore. And not in 10 years - this fall or next year, looking at the trends.
In my opinion, Nintendo is in serious danger to end up being unable to be part of this industry anymore. And not in 10 years - this fall or next year, looking at the trends.
vicissitudes
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Do we have complete software numbers for the PS4? No? Then why are we bring up complete PS3 and PSV numbers? Let's try to compare like against like. I admit it's not a perfect comparison, but neither is yours.
2K14 is the only game that didn't chart? What about Contrast? Resogun? Joysound Dive 2? Just Dance 2014? Lego Marvel Super Heroes? Madden NFL 25? NBA Live 14? The Pinball Arcade? Pool Nation Extreme? Skylanders: Swap Force? Sound Shapes? Tiny Brains? Tottemo E Mahjong Plus? Trine 2: Complete Story?
Oh, not to mention Knack comes with every system!
But let me ask you back the same question - what are you trying to show? That PS4 software performed badly? Is that what you're arguing?
I'm not talking about digital software specifically. I'm giving reasons why retail software could be lower, and really having a game already packed in is a valid reason why it COULD be.
Which part? 3DS' hardware is down significantly. I assume you're talking about franchises that haven't released yet.