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[jonno394]

Initial forecast for full FY 2018 is given at April, not June.

Thanks for pointing that out, the June bit is me referring to the full FY report btw...

 

[Mory Dunz]

That thread will be up in a few hours when the UK numbers roll in

so where's my dang gif

 

[Eolz]

did we know Switch's shipment numbers to Japan?

Not so far. Not sure if we even got some hints.

 

[Obliterator]

so where's my dang gif

Lol not sure, but unsurprisingly Horizon outsold Zelda by a good margin in the UK. I figured with all the bickering people have been doing about Horizon vs Zelda over the last month someone would have made a thread (which would likely be quickly locked over fighting)

 

[Mory Dunz]

Lol not sure, but unsurprisingly Horizon outsold Zelda by a good margin in the UK. I figured with all the bickering people have been doing about Horizon vs Zelda over the last month someone would have made a thread (which would likely be quickly locked over fighting)

Yeah, but I guess with that first post, that thread incepted itself...into...the thread.

LTD could be interesting between the two, but not that interesting personally.

I'm more curious if Switch can tread water until MK8 comes out. And even then, how big will MK8 part deux be.

Switch is looking a little weaker than I expected so far, so i'm not high on the next few weeks

 

[Principate]

Lol not sure, but unsurprisingly Horizon outsold Zelda by a good margin in the UK. I figured with all the bickering people have been doing about Horizon vs Zelda over the last month someone would have made a thread (which would likely be quickly locked over fighting)

I feel US is where the real shitposting will start if one beats the other decisively. That or Japan if there's an upset. UK is way too obvious. Wii U sold like shit there and the switch wasn't expected to set the UK on fire either.

 

[Mory Dunz]

I feel US is where the real shitposting will start if one beats the other decisively. That or Japan if there's an upset. UK is way too obvious. Wii U sold like shit there and the switch wasn't expected to set the UK on fire either.

Given how Horizon's been doing so far, I think it'll beat zelda in the U.S. How many switches were even estimated to ship to the US? I remember hearing ~600k but not sure...

 

[Kresnik258]

You'll be surprised how many Wii U launch games multiplied first week sales many times if you think first week is the end of everything for system launch software.

Well, duh. Disgaea 3 on Vita sold like 4 x its FW sales with all versions counted (3 x its FW sales without).

But if Disgaea 5 is selling like, 4 x less in its FW, then I don't think it's going to be much of a victory if it manages to crawl to a double-digit LTD

 

[ßig]

Well, duh. Disgaea 3 on Vita sold like 4 x its FW sales with all versions counted (3 x its FW sales without).

But if Disgaea 5 is selling like, 4 x less in its FW, then I don't think it's going to be much of a victory if it manages to crawl to a double-digit LTD

We're talking up to 10x here.

 

[Kresnik258]

We're talking up to 10x here.

I know I've already over-estimated Disgaea 5 on Switch, but Disgaea 3 Vita opened to 22k. I'd really struggle to see Disgaea 5 opening to 2k.

(Unless you mean it's going to sell 10 x its FW... which I'm not believing either).

 

[hiska-kun]

It obviously is, you'd have to not have been paying attention to this very thread if you thought otherwise.

Retailers underestimated demand.





Eventually, you will remember that in Japan the retailer decides the shipment. I feel like we go over this every time there's underestimated demand and limited stock yet people keep forgetting.

I don't think this is the case. GamesMaya reported several times that she was praying to Nintendo to increase the shipment. She's still waiting for this...
Comg also couldn't supply pre-orders with the shipment they got. Other reports of pre-orders selling out came from the first weekend it was available. Etc

For me this is pretty clear a Nintendo's thing. If they shipped less than 300k, I don't understand why they shipped so copies to Europe (their weakest market) instead a market with a strong demand as Japan.

 

[FreedomFighter]

Lol not sure, but unsurprisingly Horizon outsold Zelda by a good margin in the UK. I figured with all the bickering people have been doing about Horizon vs Zelda over the last month someone would have made a thread (which would likely be quickly locked over fighting)

Makes sense though. One is in a brand new system and a dead system while the other is on this gen's most popular. Horizon's sales are crazy impressive though but we'll see how it goes if and when Switch gains any traction.

 

[Fdkn]

Wrong thread lol, misstab =/

Well, I'm very happy about Horizon pushing above expectations while I'm here

 

[DriftingSpirit]

I don't think this is the case. GamesMaya reported several times that she was praying to Nintendo to increase the shipment. She's still waiting for this...
Comg also couldn't supply pre-orders with the shipment they got. Other reports of pre-orders selling out came from the first weekend it was available. Etc

For me this is pretty clear a Nintendo's thing. If they shipped less than 300k, I don't understand why they shipped so copies to Europe (their weakest market) instead a market with a strong demand as Japan.

Right, I know retailers are involved in the matter but I don't think that means it is always on them. Especially in the case of a worldwide console launch. Nintendo plays their part here too.

 

[michaelius]

For me this is pretty clear a Nintendo's thing. If they shipped less than 300k, I don't understand why they shipped so copies to Europe (their weakest market) instead a market with a strong demand as Japan.

It's like Sony caring more about America - you concentrate on most "disputed" areas to benefit from launch hype the most and ignore strongholds a bit since those people will buy switch anyway even if they have to wait.

 

[SarusGray]

I suspect Zelda will outsell Horizon Zero Dawn but both will have great numbers. Nintendo got dat japan on lock.

 

[hiska-kun]

We should get Famitsu's early numbers in a few hours (maybe 6-7h from now).

 

[noshten]

I don't think this is the case. GamesMaya reported several times that she was praying to Nintendo to increase the shipment. She's still waiting for this...
Comg also couldn't supply pre-orders with the shipment they got. Other reports of pre-orders selling out came from the first weekend it was available. Etc

For me this is pretty clear a Nintendo's thing. If they shipped less than 300k, I don't understand why they shipped so copies to Europe (their weakest market) instead a market with a strong demand as Japan.

I will play devils advocate.
It's easier not to resupply areas where launch shipment didn't sell out and for retailers to drop price accordingly in order to get their next shipment. The majority of the 2 million will go towards Japan and US. It's simply going to arrive a little later for Japan will probably get a major resupply before Splatoon Testfire, while for the US and other markets where launch was sold out possibly will be trickled out week after week. This allows Nintendo to more easily meet demand and extrapolate the lack of consoles a week before a launch like MK8D for example so there is pent up demand for the system.


I've not been around these parts for a console launch - it has been eye opening.

 

[duckroll]

Is Disgaea 5 on track to ship the magical 60k? #MakeNipponIchiGreatAgain

 

[Principate]

Is Disgaea 5 on track to ship the magical 60k? #MakeNipponIchiGreatAgain

What crack was someone smoking to think up that number.

 

[Kandinsky]

Splatoon will save da switch.

Spoiler

in Jp

 

[D.Lo]

It's like Sony caring more about America - you concentrate on most "disputed" areas to benefit from launch hype the most and ignore strongholds a bit since those people will buy switch anyway even if they have to wait.

That's my thinking.

The next shipment will sell out in Japan, but the next shipment will not sell out in say the UK.

 

[Y2Kev]

Horizon has mecha! Of course it'd be big in Japan.

 

[Moskalova]

Switch Japan 1st week sales 313,700
Wii U: 308,600
Wii: 371,900
PS4: 322,100

Note: Switch launch outside Xmas season
Source: Nomura/Famitsu

https://twitter.com/ynakamura56/status/838933524321189888

 

[ZSaberLink]

https://twitter.com/ynakamura56/status/838933524321189888

Switch Japan 1st week sales 313,700
Wii U: 308,600
Wii: 371,900
PS4: 322,100

Note: Switch launch outside Xmas season
Source: Nomura/Famitsu

If true, Switch launch was pretty similar to all the other recent launches. The question is how much was shipped, and how the Switch hardware sales for the following weeks will hold up.

 

[DriftingSpirit]

https://twitter.com/ynakamura56/status/838933524321189888

It did good.

 

[casiopao]

Wow that is quite a great number especially with all the stock problem and outside of holiday.O_O

When summer comes with Splat2, i can see it doing even better in Japan.^^

 

[AquaWateria]

https://twitter.com/ynakamura56/status/838933524321189888

Just bring that Splatoon and Pokemon and we good.

Monster Hunter as well.

 

[Vinnk]

Are we anticipating any software numbers today?

 

[hiska-kun]

So, at the end Switch sales are the expected.
We doubted because Zelda was lower in the charts. It may be, maybe, software sales are less concentrated on Zelda than we expected then?

Or maybe just big retailers (Yodobashi, Bic Camera, Yamada Denki...), got big shipments, while small or online retailers (Comg, Rakuten...) got less units. Since we got rankings for these retailers, the impression wasn't the same as the real situation.

 

[casiopao]

So, at the end Switch sales are the expected.
We doubted because Zelda was lower in the charts, but maybe software sales are less concentrated on Zelda than we expected then?

Or maybe just big retailers (Yodobashi, Bic Camera, Yamada Denki...), got big shipments, while small or online retailers (Comg, Rakuten...) got less units.

Any chance of Bomberman doing better that we predicted here lol.^^

 

[OfficerRaichu15]

I'm guessing 230k for Zelda
120k for 1 2 Switch
65k for Bomberman
40k for DQH
14k for Puyo Puyo Tetris and I Am Setsuna
2k for Disgea

 

[hiska-kun]

Are we anticipating any software numbers today?

Maybe when the real Famitsu's report is out (in 5 hours or so), they will share the most selling game too, ergo Zelda.

I'm guessing 230k for Zelda
120k for 1 2 Switch
65k for Bomberman
40k for DQH
14k for Puyo Puyo Tetris and I Am Setsuna
2k for Disgea

I am Setsuna is lower than Disgaea.

 

[Sandfox]

Is Disgaea 5 on track to ship the magical 60k? #MakeNipponIchiGreatAgain

Will Disgaea 6 ship 60k?

 

[AcademicSaucer]

Going all in, Im guessing 250k for Zelda

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

So happy for taro.

 

[Oxn]

So, at the end Switch sales are the expected.
We doubted because Zelda was lower in the charts. It may be, maybe, software sales are less concentrated on Zelda than we expected then?

Or maybe just big retailers (Yodobashi, Bic Camera, Yamada Denki...), got big shipments, while small or online retailers (Comg, Rakuten...) got less units. Since we got rankings for these retailers, the impression wasn't the same as the real situation.

I think zelda switch will actually outsell horizon.

People are looking at preorder numbers, but i think alot of switch buyers didnt preorder zelda, and just picked it up when they got the system.

I think on wednesday people will be suprised when zelda switch hits #1.

 

[PdotMichael]

https://twitter.com/ynakamura56/status/838933524321189888

Not super stunning launch sales for itself and for the fact that Nintendo canabalized their handheld market for the Switch.

 

[Mory Dunz]

I wanted that thead, I effin got it, and it was better than I could've hoped for.


Back in Japan, decent numbers for the Switch. But I wonder the importance of FW sales

 

[SarusGray]

I think zelda switch will actually outsell horizon.

People are looking at preorder numbers, but i think alot of switch buyers didnt preorder zelda, and just picked it up when they got the system.

I think on wednesday people will be suprised when zelda switch hits #1.

this is my thinking. Zelda will be number 1, horizon 2. Both will sell great ;-)

 

[Jacobson]

Not super stunning launch sales for itself and for the fact that Nintendo canabalized their handheld market for the Switch.

i think they're sold out though?

 

[ZSaberLink]

I think zelda switch will actually outsell horizon.

People are looking at preorder numbers, but i think alot of switch buyers didnt preorder zelda, and just picked it up when they got the system.

I think on wednesday people will be suprised when zelda switch hits #1.

Those numbers are sales numbers/rankings btw at smaller retailers. Not preorders. Looks like comgnet took too many preorders since there were more preorders than sales (probably didn't get enough stock).

 

[Branduil]

I would not be surprised at Horizon selling more than Zelda at launch. In the long run, though, I'm expecting Zelda to win out. It's going to keep selling for the rest of the Switch's life, like TP did.

 

[casiopao]

I would not be surprised at Horizon selling more than Zelda at launch. In the long run, though, I'm expecting Zelda to win out. It's going to keep selling for the rest of the Switch's life, like TP did.

I don't see Horizon selling more than 150k(And that is the highest.) While 300k of Switch will certainly at least have 250k Zelda sold already there.

So nah. I can't see Horizon Beating Zelda number there.

 

[PdotMichael]

i think they're sold out though?

No surprise when I ship less than Sony did for the PS4, a launch which had the narrative of being lukewarm at best around here.

 

[Primethius]

I think zelda switch will actually outsell horizon.

People are looking at preorder numbers, but i think alot of switch buyers didnt preorder zelda, and just picked it up when they got the system.

I think on wednesday people will be suprised when zelda switch hits #1.

Yea, that's what I'm thinking as well.

 

[Jpop]

No surprise when I ship less than Sony did for the PS4, a launch which had the narrative of being lukewarm at best around here.

And if they shipped 600k and only sold through 500k you would be calling it lukewarm since it wasn't sold out.

 

[PdotMichael]

And if they shipped 600k and only sold through 500k you would be calling it lukewarm since it wasn't sold out.

Sure buddy

What a defensive bullshit

 

[Obliterator]

Yeah I'm gonna go 150k Horizon 250k Breath of the Wild

 

[Mario007]

Wow that is quite a great number especially with all the stock problem and outside of holiday.O_O

When summer comes with Splat2, i can see it doing even better in Japan.^^

PS4 and PS Vita did similar numbers and launched outside of holidays. 3DS did much better and launched outside of holidays.