Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I hope so. Enemies popping-in, in a recon-heavy stealth game.... that's getting into cardinal sin territory.
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Metal Gear Solid V: Gamescom Gameplay Demo
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I hope so. Enemies popping-in, in a recon-heavy stealth game.... that's getting into cardinal sin territory.
They definitely pop-in like everything else based on zoom level of binocs/distance. Haven't seen them disappear or pop-in while in close proximity though.
Sickboy007
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Of course Kojima would be the first to do a single take AAA game. What I'm curious to see is if and how he'll integrate it thematically, or even plot-wise.
Do we have any idea as to how long the main campaign will be? TPP in its entirety looks huge, but I'm not sure that I'll be doing much in Mother Base, including the multiplayer aspect that they showed here.
The game comes with my new GPU so I'll be playing regardless but I just wondered if Kojima/Konami has given any hints. I googled it but anything resembling MGSV + length just gives results of the Ground Zeroes length debacle -____-.
The game comes with my new GPU so I'll be playing regardless but I just wondered if Kojima/Konami has given any hints. I googled it but anything resembling MGSV + length just gives results of the Ground Zeroes length debacle -____-.
giancarlo123x
Banned
I recall journalist playing like 16 hours and they just reached Africa. It's going to be long. When I play I'm doing straight story then the side stuff.
Thank you dudes! I ran across the first link but those numbers are always relatively difficult to gauge anything from.
Mostly I'm just trying to plan out my fall gaming schedule. MGS V and Fallout 4 both seem like they'll take up the bulk of my time, and I'm still not even 1/3 of the way through Bloodborne yet. I don't think I'll get to any other AAA games this year.
Itchy//Tasty
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I had a recurring phenomenon in Ground Zeroes of enemies killing other enemies with cars - they just wouldn't stop for them. One time I saw a jeep mow down three guys. The guys in the jeep then stop, get out, inspect the bodies, get back in and drive off.
I mean it was fucking hilarious, but that's besides the point.
I mean it was fucking hilarious, but that's besides the point.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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That is completely awesome.
I wonder if you can lure them infront of the driving jeeps with the magazine throw...
Im going to wait with fallout 4, given with bugged bethesda games usually are
As someone who purchased both New Vegas and Skyrim day one for PS3, I absolutely can't fault you for that. The only reason I'm going for it day one is because I'll have a capable PC instead of going the console route, and Best Buy has the PC version for $48+$10 pre-order certificate. By the time I get home from work and get my package I should have an idea as to whether or not I should keep the game for that price or just return it unopened for a refund....
Back to Metal Gear though. I'm really excited and this will be my first full metal gear game. I played through about half of MGS4 not having any idea what was going on. Ground Zeroes was great though.
Rising is GOAT
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I do hope guard popin and AI is better in TPP. It was pretty bad in GZ and very easy to cheese. Especially in some sections, like where you can kill the power.
Done all the extractions in GZ? Yea really enjoyed Rising aswell!
Well the tracking shot relates to a live spectator watching the scenes as they are, kind of like Ishmael is both a character and the narrator of Moby Dick
Itchy//Tasty
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Almost as good was a guy investigating a camera that I'd shot out. I'm watching him from some safe distance. Way behind him in the background, another guy gets into a truck and starts driving towards him. It looks like he's got just enough room to drive past the guy peering at the camera, so he doesn't stop. The guy looking at the broken camera is peering REALLY intently not even aware there's a truck approaching, and then inches before the truck drives past him, he takes ONE step forward at the wrong moment and gets creamed. Guy in the truck doesn't even notice and carries on, but ANOTHER guy in a nearby guard tower catches it and comes down to investigate. This was really awesome because it looked like the most natural accident. I actually captured both of these moments but it's only on my FB right now.
You see this kind of shit happen if you've put like 50+ hours into GZ like I did. Mainly the AA gun mission - got so much damn mileage out of that one. Can only imagine what the full game will do to me.
Damn straight.
In Ground Zeroes, getting caught and losing the bad guys again was kinda compelling. In Phantom Pain, with the whole 'guards shipping in from other bases' mechanic when you're caught, and the capacity for massive, thrilling, high-stakes escapes, the potential is even higher.
Yeah, I think one-life is the way to go. I actually loved The Last of Us for not keeping stats on how many times you're caught/how many guys you kill, etc. The fact that none of it was given stats meant you didn't need to be a perfectionist about it. You just needed to survive. HUD off and one-life in TPP might promote the same kind of mentality.
Of course Kojima would be the first to do a single take AAA game. What I'm curious to see is if and how he'll integrate it thematically, or even plot-wise.
'Single-take', that's the damn phrase! Had to write a whole post about it without it, heavy presque vu
I'm not sure it'll integrate that much plot-wise. I think it's to try and make all elements of the game as cohesive as possible.
Graphics Horse
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Pretty sure single take games are fairly common already in games like Crysis. might be first ' cinematic' 3rd person one though.
Strangely they chose to break this at certain points like turning off the power or reaching the gate in a truck in GZ, as well as some camera switches for throwing people off ladders, boarding the helicopter etc.
I've heard there's more examples in tpp but it's a bit spoilery.
Graphics Horse
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There's quite a few videos around of the first Jeep in GZ driving into the first guard who walks east, sometimes apparently without player input.
manfestival
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seeing mgsv everytime makes me moist
Graphics Horse
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The tracking shot is related to cutscenes, not gameplay
Yeah but a lot of fps games have single shot cutscenes woven in between the gameplay, I don't think there's a huge distinction between that an gz except it being tps.
Theoryraptor's a pretty inventive Ground Zeroes player. 1:41 of this video. The entire video is pretty good, and most of his other ones, but yeah, you can totally do that.
But the whole nature of tracking shots is to represent a live spectator, of course that is the basic implementation of cutscenes is a first person game. "Except it being tps" is the whole difference
Itchy//Tasty
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Graphics Horse
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Yeah I guess I was thinking more in terms of technical feat than an artistic one.
Ravensmash
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Holy moly, that looks good.
Am I right in thinking that there's less of a need to know the backstory/play previous games prior to this?
The plot premise on wiki made it seem pretty simplistic in comparison to other games in the main series.
Am I right in thinking that there's less of a need to know the backstory/play previous games prior to this?
The plot premise on wiki made it seem pretty simplistic in comparison to other games in the main series.
Well this is the one game that is gonna end it all so one would think you would want to know what they are finishing,
Ravensmash
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I'm not too fussed if I miss out on the overall lore and overarching story, as long as I can comfortably enjoy the narrative without getting completely confused.
I guess Half Life 1 was the first 'single take' game.
But third person has it's own cinematic quality, and allows for actual contrived camera angles, rather than just FPS.
Basically, I don't think FPS games count.
That specific area is the only one where I've seen it happen. I would not be surprised if PC modders figure out a way to increase the spawn distance if this is an issue in TPP.
I've S-ranked all but one mission in GZ on hard now but I think I haven't extracted everyone. Will have to try again!
Love Deterrence
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Many chalk this up to a bug or glitch, however it is fact that nothing makes its way into A Hideo Kojima Game by accident. Everything has a reason and everything is given a purpose in A Hideo Kojima Game. I think we will come to learn that Operation Trojan Horse wasn't referring to the distraction caused by Skull Face's interrogation of Chico and Paz, but rather the vehicular manslaughter committed by the Camp Omega guard. Once this in motion, all the player can do is shift his/her attention to this heinous act. The Phantom Pain's "revenge" theme has nothing to do with Skull Face and the XOF, but rather the heartless bastard driving the jeep on that fateful night in 1975. The twist: the victim was Venom Snake's brother. Based Kojima. Kojima Kaminandesu.
I had that happen to me the other day, without doing anything. I was just looking around and heard a crash and scream. It was hilarious.
dragonelite
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Dam the witcher 3 kind of length, nice..
this is an extrem example, but even the PC version had massiv problems with NPC pop ins.
at least on PC that should be an issue.
Daredevil7
Banned
So is there an actually story or is all you do is build your base then go out do missions and repeat?
There absolutely is a story but it's far less linear in structure.
giancarlo123x
Banned
It wouldn't be metal gear without a story.
0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55
Banned
rocket hand, teleport hand.... seem overdone/not necessary to me.
Aside from a single mid-game weird fade to black (that I'm sure Visceral wished it could have ironed out), the entirety of Dead Space 2's 10 hours is one long "take", into and out of cutscenes and gameplay. In a non-first person game, it really helps bring cohesion. It's not that cuts to video or cutscene models or whatnot are that bad, but they don't keep you as inside the experience as an unbroken camera angle.
Goddamn this trailer never gets old for me. Supremely well crafted.
Wooooo hoooooooo!!!
This is pretty much how it goes with every Metal Gear game. Before it's out they only show the early stuff that's all pretty straightforward military looking "you have to sneak somewhere and save a dude" type stuff. Then you get past that first area and there's fucking vampires and AIs and a dude who's possessed by his arm transplant that now talks in the arm's original owner's voice and plus there are ghosts.
lol just wait, the shit is gonna hit the fan. The reaction online after it does is half the fun.
Let's not forget the arm possession being changed to "Lol, of course that wasn't real." after being completely serious. It was hypnosis!
Frozenprince
Banned
I wish I could have the JP voices for my NA release. Akio Ōtsuka is the beeeeeeeeeeeest. Having him in MGS4 made it 10x more fun.
Pretty sure you can on Steam.