Some posters genuinely believed that Shepherd would be dead forever in Mass Effect 2 and were mad at Bioware for spoiling it so early in the game's development.
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MGSV:TPP LAUNCH TRAILER
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Some posters genuinely believed that Shepherd would be dead forever in Mass Effect 2 and were mad at Bioware for spoiling it so early in the game's development.
Augemitbutter
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the feels.....
they're real. no words.
they're real. no words.
BanditoMac
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It may look like that particular scene is a huge spoiler, but don't trust everything you see!
Balmung421
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Damn damn damn that trailer makes me wish it was the 1st already.
Stealth_Cobra
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I think the real spoiler is not
the fact Big Boss becomes Skullface, or anything of that nature... It's probably just symbolism to show that by going down that path, Big Boss becomes pretty much the equivalent of Skullface.
The Spoiler is that we get to see a burned up Big Boss character model, which in itself strongly hints that we might get an epilogue of sorts where we see Solid Snake killing and burning Big Boss to crisp with a Zippo and Lighter, as in "MG2 Solid Snake". That's what's spoilerish to me. I mean, would Kojima and team bother to make a Burned Big Boss character model just for show in the trailer ?... It's bound to have some relevance... Then again, MGS4 had the Zombie Facecamo, so maybe that's the updated version of that.. If it turns out the game features the Snake vs Big Boss Zanzibar Land fight, I'll be pissed that the Trailer spoiled it in advance, basically.
The Spoiler is that we get to see a burned up Big Boss character model, which in itself strongly hints that we might get an epilogue of sorts where we see Solid Snake killing and burning Big Boss to crisp with a Zippo and Lighter, as in "MG2 Solid Snake". That's what's spoilerish to me. I mean, would Kojima and team bother to make a Burned Big Boss character model just for show in the trailer ?... It's bound to have some relevance... Then again, MGS4 had the Zombie Facecamo, so maybe that's the updated version of that.. If it turns out the game features the Snake vs Big Boss Zanzibar Land fight, I'll be pissed that the Trailer spoiled it in advance, basically.
phoeniks314
Banned
You are right LET was not done by FOX but by the Patriots. But in the end it all goes back to Zero. He is the commander of FOX then starts a new organization the "patriots" codename cipher. It's a fucking mess.
You can easily tell who is not a Metal Gear fan if they have to ask this question.
I agree. I have also deduced from that question that he is not a Metal Gear.
Definitely not a metal gear
phoeniks314
Banned
Yes they used her embryo and injected it into Eva as a surrogate mother, she gave them birth, have you guys played MGS4.
It does, its Metal Gear
ST-84
If you want me to explain the scene to you I can, but its a spoiler with context
artsi
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Yeah you're right, it's my bad, I watched the twitch marathon to review my knowledge (from many years ago) but skipped MGS4, lol.
Graphics Horse
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Wait people still think the ground spikes are a hallucination after that? Hmm ok
That was a gag for a collectible. Do you really think Big Boss collecting badges for the heck of it is part of the actual canon/main story. Did Solid Snake and Raiden really go back in time and do the events of Tanker and Big Shell over and over again on higher difficulties to collect all the dog tags?
The hero we always needed, but one we didn't deserve.
Maybe he slipped Silent Hills in there too somehow.
Doctor_Thomas
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I dare you to tell me he doesn't do it for the fans.
Yeah. We were just talking about the meaning of the two phrases "From FOX two Phantoms were born." and "FOX vs. XOF"
Someone mentioned the phantoms are Liquid and Snake, but I think Big Boss and Skull Face make more sense. There's definitely a theme of mirror images and two sides of the same coin being shown in the trailers. BB and SF being opposites and then eventually the same. It follows from the theme of BB descending into evil and becoming a demon.
The Smoking Bun
Banned
I think the final evolution would be a Metal Gear that talks, just full on talks like Smaug from The Hobbit. But Metal Gear Balrog is cool too.
fought I would be able to get it early.FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
GODDAMN. This game in motion is a thing of beauty.
Graphics Horse
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Lostconfused
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SimpleCRIPPLE
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That has to be a bit of misdirection. Konami has been so damn strict with the press to avoid spoilers, that there's NO WAY that they would just spoil something HUGE on their own.
There's no way. Right? RIGHT?
There's no way. Right? RIGHT?
Ghostmaster
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yiepekaiyei
Banned
I'm all ears, if you're kind enough. The only spoiler I care about is how the game ends. If this don't spoil me that, I'm ok about an explanation.
Dude, they made it clear that Skull Face was stripping all XOF identification off of themselves for a reason. Yes, them dropping the badges is canon. It's perfectly reasonable to assume that everything that happens in the GROUND ZEROES mission is canon.
Yea the Venom Snake thing is just his current alias, hell even Kojima confirmed it June last year:
https://twitter.com/Kojima_Hideo/status/476483351050600449/photo/1
https://twitter.com/Kojima_Hideo/status/476483351050600449/photo/1
But it's possible and there are outright hallucinations seen in the trailer, and we don't know what those weird flashes of light mean at all that have shown up (not just in the trailers, but was present in GZ as well as the badges were falling).
Those are reason enough to think that there's a good possibility of a "everything is not as it seems" type deal along the same lines of Fight Club.
Chico seemed like he was fearing for his own life when he saw Big Boss in GZ. And again, this is Kojima, the guy who wrote about a Liquid's arm taking over Ocelot (which turned out to be Ocelot hypnotizing himself into believing that).
This is not as far of a stretch as you try to make it out to be, it's well within Kojima's scope of WTF-ness he's done in the past titles.
Anyways I hope I'm wrong, but Kojima has spoiled stuff in the past in his trailers.
Dropping the badges was canon, but the collecting of the badges was not. The pouch badge was a gag.
Anyways I've made my case already, that's enough of that discussion.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I love it how the MG gets stuck and Big Boss is just wondering what the hell is he suppose to do now.
The Smoking Bun
Banned
Oh right. But it wasn't all that coherent, I want to have an actual conversation with an AI piloted nuclear tank and not just random humming/singing and threats.
PeterLegend
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Kojima playing us like a fiddle again. Seems like Psycho Mantis is really torturing big boss in this game lol.
Yea the Venom Snake thing is just his current alias, hell even Kojima confirmed it June last year:
https://twitter.com/Kojima_Hideo/status/476483351050600449/photo/1
Is it known the difference between Punished and Venom?
Punished is way cooler ftr.
dukeoflegs
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I'm not saying nanomachines, but a missing link between Metal Gears that randomly appears, Big Boss having a robotic arm, and somehow Grey Fox is created with out any history in cybernetics. Grey Fox can only be created because of nanomachines created long ago. Used to bridge the gap between robot arm (Big Boss), walking battle tank, and the most badass soldier known to man. Think about it, it can only be.....
JadedWriter
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Dinosaur named Metal Gear is controlled by the Zero System.the only thing that came into my mind
AusRoachman
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Trailer started off well but the phantom pain but just felt too random . E3 trailers were so much better.
It reminds me of that fan made trailer that goes through the past games culminating in the phantom pain.
At least he got to say directed by hideo kojima one last time .
It reminds me of that fan made trailer that goes through the past games culminating in the phantom pain.
At least he got to say directed by hideo kojima one last time .