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[Slayven]

You seem too educated to be a black person according to the Bay. If he were to cast you, you would be the slightly more intelligent soldier with crazy ideas that might work.

I will get to work on my one liners and catchphrases. Think I can have a scene where i walk away from an explosion in slomo?

 

[zaccheus]

Yes he does.

My sister and I have gotten into heated arguments because I refuse to give him money too.

And I've heard this brought up before. "If you saw them as mocking black people you're the racist."

Really? Someone throws in decades old characteristics of what popular American culture has said is representative of black people into nonhuman characters. I notice it, and I'm the bigot for smelling the turd someone dropped on my plate.

Am I racist because I can tell what race these characters are a play on?

And speaking of directors and stereotypes, Ridley Scott and John Carpenter both seem to have no problem casting black people and avoiding the easy stereotype. They also happen to be two of my favorites.


Carpenter even manages to have actual asian characters (in a movie where it seemed like caricatures would have been incredibly easy). And you can get away with murder as far as stereotyping asians in this country goes.

i love those crows

 

[Slayven]

No one was complaining about the first film having a black tech wizard. Anthony Anderson stole a role from an up and coming Asian Actor.

Speaking about racism and Hollywood, I wish Disney would grow some balls and release the Song of the South on DVD.

 

[neorej]

Eh, I would like it if they had more black characters that deviated from the expected stereotypes more often - but it happens for a lot of minorities. And I don't even think there is much (if any) malice involved, it's just what people know/what appeals to people.

If I was being portrayed in a movie about my life, I don't think ANYONE could get away with attributing any black-stereotypes to my role, I just wish I saw things like that more often in movies, but I don't sweat it.

One thing I do notice is that they try and get -certain- actors to play the parts of the non-gangsta/super stereotypical black roles, might just be a co-incidence though.

And people wondering about white people who play nerdy roles - well white people play everything in movies. Frequently. So you don't see them attached to any particular stereotype very often.

Have you ever seen the Dutch being portrayed in movies? Mostly we're a potsmoking, whore-fucking group of people with a German accent. I think black people are getting off easy in Hollywood as far as stereotyping goes.

 

[harSon]

No one was complaining about the first film having a black tech wizard. Anthony Anderson stole a role from an up and coming Asian Actor.

Speaking about racism and Hollywood, I wish Disney would grow some balls and release the Song of the South on DVD.

"And I tell you, oh lordy, Bruddah Rabbit just kept hip hip hip hoppin along, oh yessire!"

I loved it as a kid, still prefer Bed Knobs and Broom Sticks though.

 

[Kintaro]

Yes he does.

My sister and I have gotten into heated arguments because I refuse to give him money too.

My Mother and I fight like dogs over Tyler Perry. Problem is, both her and I know of people like the characters in his movies and shows. Hell, Madea could have been my grandmother. :lol So, it's a wash in the end.

 

[Zeliard]

I will get to work on my one liners and catchphrases. Think I can have a scene where i walk away from an explosion in slomo?

Only if you're Will Smith or Will Smith's plucky sidekick.

 

[AVclub]

So the gist of the argument now is that, because someone in the media of days gone by has attributed characteristics like "uneducated" or "violent" or "gold teeth" to black characters, those traits can no longer be used in current media without being offensive? Is that right?

So it doesn't matter that we see non-black characters with these characteristics in the media. Going forward, even inanimate objects can be racially insensitive if someone arbitrarily projects their personal sensitivities onto them?

 

[harSon]

So the gist of the argument now is that, because someone in the media of days gone by has attributed characteristics like "uneducated" or "violent" or "gold teeth" to black characters, those traits can no longer be used in current media without being offensive? Is that right?

So it doesn't matter that we see non-black characters with these characteristics in the media. Going forward, even inanimate objects can be racially insensitive if someone arbitrarily projects their personal sensitivities onto them?

You're just digging yourself deeper.

 

[mckmas8808]

My Mother and I fight like dogs over Tyler Perry. Problem is, both her and I know of people like the characters in his movies and shows. Hell, Madea could have been my grandmother. :lol So, it's a wash in the end.

Sad but true.

 

[Sanjuro]

The problem with this thread now is everyone is going to play the "It happens all the time" "<Insert other movie here>" card. I'm sure if you look deep down you can find several things wrong with all sorts of movies.

However the topic of discussion is Michael Bay's picture. Where MANY people and reviewers are calling this out. It's just so obvious in this case.

 

[AVclub]

People are asking for Michael Bay to apologize that robots who learned to communicate with humans by monitoring their media have learned some behavior that people find offensive? Why not ask the media who established these stereotypes in the first place (and obviously taught the robots to look and act that way) to apologize?

 

[PoliceCop]

"Ghetto" culture is something I see in more white kids than black kids, yet whenever I see anyone making fun of that culture they're described as a racist.

This just means you know a lot of white kids.

 

[radioheadrule83]

I thought there was some element of self-awareness about it. Like they knew they were doing it and it was quite clear it was played for laughs. I thought they were probably the most endearing characters in the entire movie tbh - I heard a lot of people say they were awesome and/or were relieved that they didn't die.

I'm not saying the characterisation is a-okay, I knew immediately on hearing them that there would be slight controversy...

to play devils advocate, the Transformers as a race don't look like cars or talk in any form of English before they come to Earth. They scan cars and assume their form, they learned the language from entertainment and the "world wide web" as Optimus says in the first movie. Bumblebee talks entirely in radio snippets.

The dumb, playful, bickering element is the very nature of the twins, but the language and dialogue they choose and communicate in is a characatured reflection of stereotypes in the media that the Transformers themselves learned from.

 

[LuCkymoON]

why does a robot have a gold tooth?

 

[Slayven]

Can't wait until Transformer's 3, they will have the dinobots and people will complain they are making fun of the mentally handicap.

 

[Kinitari]

Have you ever seen the Dutch being portrayed in movies? Mostly we're a potsmoking, whore-fucking group of people with a German accent. I think black people are getting off easy in Hollywood as far as stereotyping goes.

I don't know any Dutch people . So maybe YOU'RE lying to me and Hollywood is trying to make me see the light about you crazy Dutch.

Spoiler

Racism makes me sad

 

[Sanjuro]

People are asking for Michael Bay to apologize that robots who learned to communicate with humans by monitoring their media have learned some behavior that people find offensive? Why not ask the media who established these stereotypes in the first place (and obviously taught the robots to look and act that way) to apologize?

 

[Wickerman]

Is Transformers 2 Racist?

One should expect explosions and cleavage in a Michael Bay film, but should one expect the perpetuation of racial stereotypes?

If you snoop around movie sites today, you’ll find references to Mudflap and Skids, twin Autobots from Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen who bear more than a passing resemblance to minstrel show depictions of African Americans. CHUD.com aptly dubbed them Little Black Sambots. The wider story is that Mudflap and Skids are just the tip of the insensitive iceberg in Bay’s newest film. Here is a list of what you can expect when you go to see the Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.

Mudflap and Skidz - the aforementioned “from da hood” Autobots with gold teeth, poor grammar, the inability to read (or speak with inside voices) and, final sigh, actual simian features. The voice work (by Spongebob Squarepants’ Tom Kenny) is more of the Howard Stern/Amos & Andy style as opposed to the Chris Rock “daaaaaamn!” variety.

Old Chinese Man Eating Noodles - because an opening fight in Shanghai wouldn’t be complete without battling robots busting through a wall and disturbing a sage old man over his steaming iron rice bowl. He has no lines, but he mugs to the camera with a nice blend of fear and wisdom.

Secret Agent Schlep - John Turturro’s character from the first film is back, but he’s been run out of the spy game and has moved in with his mother in Jew York City. There he sells whitefish to angry old women (who, no doubt, asks for a bissel sable lox on the side.) “Leave me alone, I’ve got bagels to shmear!” he cries when Sam Witwicky (and the fate of the human race) dares to call him back into action.

Bucktoothed Angry Black Muslim - I don’t know what stereotype exactly was going on with this guy other than baffling. Turturro’s mother’s delicatessen is obviously only kosher-style. When a worker is moving a giant hog carcass, an “uppidty” meat slicer shouts out (from behind a wall of teeth) something to the tune of “don’t touch me with that pork!” (Surely, this man should find some other place of employ.)

The Wopticon - A supporting character in the film is a mini-decepticon RC vehicle portrayed as an Eye-talian stool pigeon. Did you know the natives of Cybertron had a fear of getting’ whacked? This li’l guy does.

Jetfire, Old Boy - In this iteration the Decepticon-turned-Autobot is a dusty old Anglo-Scots codger. Cheers to ILM for figuring out a way to turn metal into a beard and a cane, jeers for putting The Major from Fawlty Towers in the middle of an action film.

Das Torture Bot - When Sam Witwicky is pinned to a slab of concrete (because "Megatron wants what's in my mind!") a Herr Doktor Mengele type droid appears to do the drilling. Talk about OUCHwitz!

The French - The UK is clearly shown among the coalition of the willing (to keep Energon from Megatron, of course) but other than a shout out to a noble Jordanian helicopter, the rest of the world seems to be neutral in this worldwide struggle. The French particularly so. When Mr. and Mrs. Witwicky are seen on their Gaullic vacation, all we see are quick flashes of typical French behavior: annoying mimes and repulsive edible snails.

The Arab World - According to Michael Bay’s logic, the entire Arab World is nothing but sand, camels and pyramids. Also Aqaba, Petra and Giza are all within walking distance. (But, hey, you also have to take the Ben Franklin Bridge to get from New Jersey to New York in this film and there are mountains in Washington DC, but that’s another story.)

The Female Gender - Every single female in the world is young, slender, wearing very little clothing and is if not ready to copulate, at least wiggle lasciviously. Every single female in the film. Even the randy and lithe Mrs. Witwicky.

If one really wants to read into things, one can easily find a repudiation of the Obama administration. The only non-Robot bad guy is a pusillanimous, bespectled worm who thinks that a strong military showing is not the best policy (he is WEAK) and when he is forced to jump from an airplane he cries like a little girl.

Sam Witwicky’s roommate Leo is played by Ramon Rodgriguez who, unless I’m forgetting a stereotype, doesn’t do anything disgrace the Latino community. He kinda acts like a yutz and chases a lot of tail, but I’ll chalk that up to him being a lusty college freshman rather than some sexed-up Latin lover.

Indeed, one could surely chalk the whole thing up to, “hey, it’s a movie about robots and explosions” and “relax a little and STFU!” Or, one could argue that Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen will be watched and beloved by young and impressionable teens who, whether they know it or not, have their opinions in some way shaped by the media they consume. Either way, the evidence of racial stereotyping in the film is undeniable.

http://movieblog.ugo.com/movies/is-transformers-2-racist

 

[sneaky77]

People really need to relax with the overly political correctness of everything and everyone being offended all the time like they are just looking so hard for it..

 

[Count Dookkake]

The really sad thing about the inclusion of these characters is that Bay could have had the Dinobots playing stupid instead and it might have actually made sense without being offensive. Plus we would get to see robot dinosaurs.

 

[Sanjuro]

People really need to relax with the overly political correctness of everything and everyone being offended all the time like they are just looking so hard for it..

Again that is the point. You didn't need to look in this film. For every new character you were exposed to stereotypes of all cultures. The only positive that comes out of this is you save yourself from purchasing a ticket to Epcot.

 

[Loxley]

Note, usually in these cases you can tell who the racist ones are. Usually the liberal white folks who put on a front acting as if they're not racist, but when something like this happens they shift and stall and they're the first to act offended.

Cognitive dissonance at its best.

See also: the Resident Evil 5 racism controversy. Mostly all white people making a hissy fit, no one else cares.

Why is that?

When I read your first line I was just about to bring up Resident Evil 5, good on ya'

I got the impression that most of the people who were "offended" or "bothered" by what they saw were white people who were only acting that way because they felt like they should be. As if they while playing the game there was a black guy sitting right next them the whole time.

What makes this situation even more ass-backwards is that we can nominate RDJ for an Oscar for his role in Tropic Thunder but people shit themselves over motherfucking robots that turn into concept cars acting "stereotypical" based on studying western pop culture.

Dogs and cats living together, people.

 

[Heezzi]

I can take stereotypes as long as they're characters and not caricatures.

This guy

as an example.

When I first encountered I was really disappointed. Just another shittalking buff black guy. But the game made him something more than that. Not too much more but the effort was appreciated and Coal was awesome.

You know that's Terry Tate right?

 

[thomasbk]

I agree that the twins are racist stereotypes and that Paramount and Bay should be ashamed and apologize for this. As I said in the review topic:

Also the Twins are just down right racist. I am shocked that those two made it past the censors and studio executives. I will be truly shocked if the black community isn't demanding an apology from Paramount and Bay by the end of the week. These characters weren't over-the-top like Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder. They were just flat out crude stereotypes.

I think some people in here are attempting downplay or derail this issue by throwing out far reaching theories on other possible Bay wrongs, such as _dementia and his "Bad Boys" comment above. Hell, some of you may as well say that the Twins are red and green which happens to be the same color as watermelon. RASITS!

No, there is no mistake that the Twins were suppose to represent a black stereotypes.

-One gold tooth
-Buck toothed
-Urban slang/ Jive
-Can't Read
-Popping caps in people's ass
-Gangsters
-Unintelligent

It isn't right, and it shouldn't be tolerated.

The twins were supposed to be black? :O
I saw the movie yesterday and not once did i think they were black!
I just thought they were like weird robot things, and kinda like hillbillies but not really.

Spoiler

I guess im not racist enough!

 

[OG_Original Gamer]

The source of this issue, is our on perception of our selves. Including how we appear and come off in the eye's and minds of white's. IMO, its not necessarily that we think that this or that person is racist, its just that we don't like that perception. If you read some of the comments by Bruce Lee about Chinese people and they're image on television and film. Its pretty much the same.

We just need to get to a point where we can accept our style of humor, without feeling like its a negative reflection. We still have a way to before we are happy being black or african american as a whole.

I'm getting tired of hearing she's a "strong black woman", cut that shit out. On some real shit.

 

[Count Dookkake]

The source of this issue, is our on perception of our selves. Including how we appear and come off in the eye's and minds of white's. IMO, its not necessarily that we think that this or that person is racist, its just that we don't like that perception. If you read some of the comments by Bruce Lee about Chinese people and they're image on television and film. Its pretty much the same.

We just need to get to a point where we can accept our style of humor, without feeling like its a negative reflection. We still have a way to before we are happy being black or african american as a whole.

I'm getting tired of hearing she's a "strong black woman", cut that shit out. On some real shit.

Very articulate.

 

[MWS Natural]

I think Bay and Paramount shouldn't apologize for this. First of all, apparently you associate these traits with black people, so if you consider this being racist, maybe you are racist.
Second of all, as long as black people try their damn best to fit the stereotype described above, I don't find it something other people should apologize for.
Third, I would like to quote myself here:

Huh??

 

[shintoki]

Oh definitely. It's always like that, the ones that are "offended" are in, actuality, the "racist" ones in most cases. White guilt, my friend, it's called white guilt.

That hypocrisy is delicious isn't it?

It tastes like bitter fucking tears.

It's called instigation.

It's the same way as having to mention "A White cop shot the black criminal", but if it was a black cop, it would be "Cop shot criminal". They know what buttons will push people correctly on sensitive subjects. They can get a better reaction out of people. It's allot of the same on what Micheal Moore does, It'll draws far more publicity to them than just saying "Micheal Bay can not for the life of him create original, unique characters and has to re-use the same old shit in every one of his films :lol"

I think the last thread we had on this was the Black minister calling Gays inhuman, And it created this strife on Gaf. Just by adding in the race of the guy, It created allot of animosity, stupidity, and hypocrisy. It's funny, but once race becomes introduced. Then people become colorblind to everything but color of his skin. There has to be more to it, A racist angle, etc. It ends up pushing out the bias some people try to keep hidden within them and you'll eventually see who really put value into race.

But the difficult thing about it is, There are many injustices in the world. It is hard to filter through all the ones with actual merit and which ones just come from people who are looking to stir shit up for their own agenda. The most disappointing thing about it all is, People become use to notion.

 

[mckmas8808]

The source of this issue, is our on perception of our selves. Including how we appear and come off in the eye's and minds of white's. IMO, its not necessarily that we think that this or that person is racist, its just that we don't like that perception. If you read some of the comments by Bruce Lee about Chinese people and they're image on television and film. Its pretty much the same.

We just need to get to a point where we can accept our style of humor, without feeling like its a negative reflection. We still have a way to before we are happy being black or african american as a whole.
I'm getting tired of hearing she's a "strong black woman", cut that shit out. On some real shit.

Not true and not going to happen. The problem is when black people are proud of what and who we are, it's determined by the people that be that "it's bad for society."

And most of the time the people with money and power don't pick the things that make black people look good, smart, or strong. They pick the bullshit stuff like speaking slang, we all play basketball, and sag our pants and wear jerseys.

Hip-hop had a HUGE movement were dudes stopped wearing jerseys and started wearing button ups and clean dressy clothes. But did we see that depicted in movies and TV shows? Not really.

 

[mckmas8808]

I agree with your post with this line being the exception.

Are you suggesting that blacks in America *aren't* happy being black? I think they're a lot better off than the days when they'd burn their hair into a conk, or, like my grandmother, dye her hair blonde just so white people would hire her due to her light complexion.

I'm happy being black, which is why such "stereotypes" (hint: they're stereotypes because they are grounded in reality, even black kids in the suburbs act that way because they think that's way real "black" people should act) bother me.
I don't like them, and I don't act like nor talk like that.

But honestly, our people aren't doing ourselves a favor and more often than not we're the ones perpetuating the stereotype towards other races. That's why I don't get all up in arms about it.

Do the uncle Tom Transformers in the movie offend me? Kinda. But not to the point where I won't admit I enjoyed myself while watching the movie. They're not that big of a deal to me.

I agree with you post, except for the bolded part. I disagree because kids don't act that way because they "think" they have to. They act that way because that's how they are. I love when I see black people in movies acting what some here would suggest to be "hip".

But it would be nice to see more layers shown about blacks in movies. And to be honest that is happening more now than it was in the 90s.

 

[mollipen]

Complaining about "old Chinese man eating noodles" being in the movie sounds to me like complaining about "fat American guy eating cheeseburger" being in the movie. You know, as in stuff that happens quite often?

(Then again, I've not seen this yet, so I haven't seen the scene in question for myself.)

 

[twinturbo2]

My thought upon hearing about this was that Spike Lee should never find out about this. Is that wrong?

Also, there's a difference between playing racial stereotypes for satire and playing them for mocking humor. Transformers 2 is no Blazing Saddles, from what I can gather...

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

I agree with you post, except for the bolded part. I disagree because kids don't act that way because they "think" they have to. They act that way because that's how they are. I love when I see black people in movies acting what some here would suggest to be "hip".

But it would be nice to see more layers shown about blacks in movies. And to be honest that is happening more now than it was in the 90s.

Honest to God, I was watching Drumline the other day and thinking "wow, here's a movie with everything - educated blacks, hood blacks, athletic blacks, trendy blacks, musical blacks, dancing blacks, dark blacks, mixed blacks, corn rows & fades (on the same character no less!), old-fashioned blacks, sell-out blacks, and BET."

It's one of the better modern representations of the young black community in modern cinema, and it's a Nick Cannon movie.

 

[sneaky77]

Again that is the point. You didn't need to look in this film. For every new character you were exposed to stereotypes of all cultures. The only positive that comes out of this is you save yourself from purchasing a ticket to Epcot.

So what? people get offended at everything have a laugh and move on whats the big deal

 

[mckmas8808]

I disagree with this completely. These kids can be better than that, they were taught better than that and yet still mosey around like walking caricatures. I refuse to believe it's because who they "really" are, and will continue to lay the blame on the modern day minstrel show known as Hip Hop and BET.

I'm sorry man, but it's the truth. Hip-hop and BET only exist because people out there demand it. These "people" that you believe are caricatures view themselves to be normal. Just like there's rednecks in the south that could be considered caricatures. But that's their real-life.

Hip-hop and BET is only showing you what's going on in black neighborhoods. Look at these guys.

Would you consider them "caricatures"? Because some people would consider them that.

1. Sagging pants
2. Dreads
3. Dreads with blonde tips
4. Oversized coat
5. Hats turned backwards

 

[Pseudo_Sam]

I think you just have a thing with Michael Bay. Who gives a fuck how he portrays race, if you don't like it don't watch it. I really do think you're reaching with some of your examples, though.

 

[OG_Original Gamer]

I agree with your post with this line being the exception.

Are you suggesting that blacks in America *aren't* happy being black? I think they're a lot better off than the days when they'd burn their hair into a conk, or, like my grandmother, dye her hair blonde just so white people would hire her due to her light complexion.

I'm happy being black, which is why such "stereotypes" (hint: they're stereotypes because they are grounded in reality, even black kids in the suburbs act that way because they think that's way real "black" people should act) bother me.

I don't like them, and I don't act like nor talk like that.

But honestly, our people aren't doing ourselves a favor and more often than not we're the ones perpetuating the stereotype towards other races. That's why I don't get all up in arms about it.

Do the uncle Tom Transformers in the movie offend me? Kinda. But not to the point where I won't admit I enjoyed myself while watching the movie. They're not that big of a deal to me.

Not all, but it still exist today. I still to this day here women reference our hair as good or bad. If its not some what straight then its bad. Looking at films Jim Carrey, Adam Sandler, Ben Stiller and many other comedic actors have done. I doubt there's Jewish, or Irish( Jim Carrey I'm guessing he's Irish) people looking down on their films.

I don't think most whites believe those stereotypes represent us as whole. it's just bothers us, it shouldn't. Last years election season had Republicans attacking Democrats for making fun of southern whites, suggesting they lack intelligence (ie. stereotypical). Which is where most blacks got their broken english from, with a combination of street slang can be hilarious.

Most of the dialog on part of the Twins was just slang,

 

[OG_Original Gamer]

Not true and not going to happen. The problem is when black people are proud of what and who we are, it's determined by the people that be that "it's bad for society."

And most of the time the people with money and power don't pick the things that make black people look good, smart, or strong. They pick the bullshit stuff like speaking slang, we all play basketball, and sag our pants and wear jerseys.

Hip-hop had a HUGE movement were dudes stopped wearing jerseys and started wearing button ups and clean dressy clothes. But did we see that depicted in movies and TV shows? Not really.

Part of the problem is that our stars, producers and directors are not doing that. Waiting for some billionaire studio owner who is white, to decide its time to promote Jay-Z look as the new image of hip-hop, would be the greatest pipe dream. There's enough money between some these actors, actress, producers, and directors to start a studio to develop the image in film, television that we know represent us.

 

[mckmas8808]

You are not understanding what I am saying at all.

No, but I would consider that image of the black kid holding a gun, acting gangster, and he's no less than 6 years old to be a caricature.

I don't see what's wrong those guys. Those are normally dressed young men. I'm not talking about how these young black folks dress, I'm talking about how they act, how they talk. Kids in the ghetto, I can understand. They grew up in places with less than stellar education systems and places to provide with assistance.

But black kids in the suburbs act ghetto, thinking that's who they really are and what they should aspire to be due to what's shown on television, when they have been taught better.

I'm pretty positive every black male or female on this board has gone through this at least once in their life; some jive talking suburb living negro telling them they act white because they're interested in their education, like reading, for instance. Their is a huge anti-intellectual movement in the black community, even in the suburbs. Why is that? Because they feel intellect is for whites. Where do they get such ideas?

The television and movies and entertainment in general.

That's my theory.

I see what you are saying, but some of them haven't been taught that well. And some people are just going to be dumb. It's easier to be dumb and act cool, then to be smart and not be the average everyday cool kid.

And I HATE the "you acting white" just because you get the honor roll. That shit has to end. I agree with you there. But the anti-intellectual movement is nationwide among many races. Just look at the 2008 Presidental election. :lol

 

[way more]

If you attribute those characteristics to black people, then you are the racist.

Is there an origin to this incredibly stupid idea or is it just the succeeding line of thinking that comes from "racism doesn't exist anymore?"

 

[Esch]

I saw it just now with some pals and I have to say.. It was pretty bad in the race department.

 

[guggnichso]

Transformers was pretty much the only Bay movie I didn't absolutely hate sitting through. Pretty good actually, but it did still have black people acting KERAZZZYYY. He even managed to have a cooning ass robot (who TBH I did like), which I didn't even think was possible.

It's more than a coincidence with this guy and I'm not seeing things. Is it really that hard for him to have black characters that aren't complete cartoons?

Michael Bay makes shitty movies, and ALL characters in his movies act like complete idiots. He's like the hollywoods own Uwe Boll.

 

[mckmas8808]

Michael Bay makes shitty movies, and ALL characters in his movies act like complete idiots. He's like the hollywoods own Uwe Boll.

You're taking it too damn far.

 

[Timedog]

My friends friend (I've met the guy, though) was working on a set and Michael Bay rolls up in his Ferarri, and the kid asks, "so what does that transform into?" and Michael Bay replies "Money." and walks off.

 

[Dan]

Is there an origin to this incredibly stupid idea or is it just the succeeding line of thinking that comes from "racism doesn't exist anymore?"

It stems from the childhood lesson of "you smelt it, you dealt it".

Also, an [intentional?] ignorance of historical media representations of non-whites.

 

[AVclub]

I saw Transformers 2 last night and it was offensive to the senses. Everything in that movie was a caricature. The twins didn't strike me as black stereotypes though. If anything, they were more like the "crazy redneck" stereotype of hillbilly brothers who always fight with each other. More like this:

 

[SapientWolf]

Since when did hillbillies get gold teeth and talk in ebonics? It's... never mind. It's not even worth arguing about anymore. They're just two clowns in the circus of stupid. GI Joe will probably make this look like Oscar winning material anyway.

 

[Ironballs]

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[Pseudo_Sam]

My friends friend (I've met the guy, though) was working on a set and Michael Bay rolls up in his Ferarri, and the kid asks, "so what does that transform into?" and Michael Bay replies "Money." and walks off.

Wha...?

Did he leave the car?