Mortimer Brewster
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So WB is pulling a Paramount now and farming out films for Blu Ray Release.
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Michael Mann's Heat Remastered Blu-ray: May 9/17! ($8 on Amazon)
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Not to mention the mediocre gun sounds right !
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Heeh, I didn't even noticed at the time he wanted to say "BIG ASS" and reconsidered, ah ah ah. Not so on drug finally ^^
olore
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I think it's quite flat. No emotion at all. Quite silly really. Are we supposed to feel something for these two? Like they could've been best bros or something? The meet at the café is silly, boring and pompous too. Funny that. A too long vehicle with lots of different character just to have that much ballyhooed café scene. I used to think much of this movie. These days not at all.
If I have too chose a movie by Mann I'd select Collateral. Tighter. More focused
Net_Wrecker
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I wouldn't say he invented it, but he definitely put his stamp on it. In terms of urban showcases, Mann's working from a linage that stems back to Italian Neorealists, French New Wave, Noir, etc. In the latter half of his career actually, it's those styles + his documentary origins that have been clashing with his classical Hollywood influences making for these strange guerrilla aesthetic large scale studio movies.
Well that's because The insider is actually Mann's best movie. But you're also wrong about HEAT
CassidyIzABeast
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Nice boxart. Shame about the desaturated blue look.
Discotheque
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Yeah. Being such a big fan of Manns movies I had to go back and see Melville's Le Samourai and see where a lot of his influence stemmed from. Great film
Haha that line always bothered the shit out of me! What did he replace detritus with?
Death Metalist
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Probably the best ending to a Mann film. Masterclass film all around. I already own the old blu but I guess I'll have to double dip.
Net_Wrecker
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Nothing, he just edited around it. But hardcore Heat fans can't let it go.
THE:MILKMAN
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Picked up the UK definitive edition just yesterday on HMV's 5 Bluray's for £30. Great film and utter bargain for £6.
I wonder if the audio track is different?
I understand it was intentional by Mann, but I found it essentially broken on the current bluray outside of having a literal home theater with accompanying surround sound system and sound-proofing. Either most of the dialogue is too low, or you turn it up loud enough and your roof blows off in the action scenes and the neighbours start complaining (that sudden helicopter cut, yikes). I had to sit there with the remote constantly adjusting the volume up and down; it's no way to watch a film.
I understand it was intentional by Mann, but I found it essentially broken on the current bluray outside of having a literal home theater with accompanying surround sound system and sound-proofing. Either most of the dialogue is too low, or you turn it up loud enough and your roof blows off in the action scenes and the neighbours start complaining (that sudden helicopter cut, yikes). I had to sit there with the remote constantly adjusting the volume up and down; it's no way to watch a film.
So now she just says, "Sift through ________" and what nothing ?
Net_Wrecker
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lol no, that line is gone. "You don't live with me, you live among the remains of dead people. --> ....you read the terrain, you search for signs of passing, for the scent of your prey, and then you hunt them down." He literally just snipped it out, and if you haven't seen the theatrical version you wouldn't notice or care.
UK/import folks are saying the dialogue is boosted compared to the older release. Not enough to balance it against the gun sounds like most movies do (this is on purpose), but better than before.
Fancy Clown
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I gotta go with Thief for best Mann and Mann ending still. That shootout and then him peacing out is that good shit. Heat is great too though.
thesoapster
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One of my favorite movies ever. Excellent news.
Death Metalist
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Heat had the bigger impact on me because alot of time was spent giving depth to these two characters, which is very well done. Thief is great as well and it works without needing that much depth to the main character because of how he lives his life, a drifter of sorts. It also has the second best soundtrack in a Mann film outshined only by The Last of The Mohicans.
Fancy Clown
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I'd still give it to Tangerine Dream since it helps tell the icy, industrial story so perfectly, but Last of the Mohican's score makes that climax
It's up there, though
What a pointless "remaster."
Death Metalist
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Ask me what the best soundtrack to a Mann film on another day and I'd probably say Thief, it's so good.
Takamura-San
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Finally watched the movie last year. Good flick up until the end. Man has a moral code throughout his life, and decides to go against all of that for the sake of the "plot" of this story.
Harry Stewart
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Nice. And thankfully Mann didn't mess with the cut. He constantly does that shit with his films for the home media release and it always ends up being a patchwork of different cuts for different regions, some additions, some unnecessary cuts. He hasn't delivered a satisfying director's cut of one of his films yet so I'm glad he stuck to the theatrical version.
yellow submarine
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Did they fix the lighting on the Eady/Neil scene on the balcony with the shot of LA in the background (looking like algae in Fiji or whatever) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqDoUCcJHPU.
It remains the only scene in this movie that takes me out of the experience in a jarring manner -- I can practically tell that it's a soundstage with a superimposed background -- looks like a matte painting instead of an actual LA background shot.
It remains the only scene in this movie that takes me out of the experience in a jarring manner -- I can practically tell that it's a soundstage with a superimposed background -- looks like a matte painting instead of an actual LA background shot.
No, this was owned by Regency, who have since moved over to Fox for distribution of their films. This is a different situation than, say, Criterion putting out the Before Trilogy with the first two films being ones that WB owns.
davidwhangchoi
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oh is that how to spell his name? i never turned on subtitles to find out cause the volume was maxed out =) especially during the gun fights, those sounds were surreal.
TsunamiOfSwagger
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Only found that out when I was getting no hits for "wayne grow".
It's up there, though
This doesn't even come anywhere close to Heat. Firing an MP5 one-handed is really fucking stupid.
Livingskeletons
If I pulled that off, would you die?
The sun rises and sets with her.
I need this Blu Ray.
I need this Blu Ray.
Extra Sauce
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I hear he's somewhat deaf now (no pun intended) and a nightmare to deal with for sound mixers. Hopefully he didn't fuck with that aspect.
Fancy Clown
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Hard Boiled ain't exactly striving for realism, and its glorious excess and expertly orchestrated chaos is precisely why it's the best sustained cinematic sequence of guns going bang.
BLAUcopter
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Omg I need this.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
I like the font for the Heat logo.
DizzyCaffeine
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"Detritus" is gone? Wtf? I mean, it's an awkward line, but it's part of the movie to me.
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Seamless branching's been around for years. Is it that hard to include the theatrical cut alongside the current one?
Mann's not super big on offering alternate cuts. Manhunter has been about it on that front for something readily available.
HyperZone<3
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considering how very weird the sound mix in Blackhat was, I'd believe it.
can I just say that I'm still salty, 22 years after the fact, that Heat got basically zero award recognition in its own time. Not a single Oscar nom (not even for sound effects, the biggest gimmie of all time maybe), not even a single flipping Golden Globe nod. Braveheart got all the friggin laurels and it wasn't even the best movie to come out that year about a Scottish folk hero (Rob Roy cleans its clock).
C'mon, audiences and critics of 1995. A masterpiece is staring you right in the face, acknowledge it!
Bobby Roberts
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The '90s were not a great decade for the recognition of quality art.
This is me.
I bought it on Blu Ray because something bad happened to my last copy but at this point I've bought it 3 times. It's still Blu-Ray and my TV is still 1080p. Zero interest.
Wasn't it intentionally filmed grainy anyway? What good is another remaster going to do?
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Public Enemies also had some really weird problems with the sound.
I can't pass this up. Probably won't be much different from the last blu release, but I can't help myself.
Bobby Roberts
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I don't think they're remastering it specifically to remove grain. Or that removing grain is even a goal anyone trying to remaster it would be aiming for.
He stayed true to his code until the end. In fact, he does exactly what he told Pacino he'd do in the coffee scene. How did he go against it?
So is this the right one? https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B06XS9TPYR/panandscathed-20
At only $8 I feel like it's not the new version.
At only $8 I feel like it's not the new version.
Robot Pants
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I mean I'm gonna buy it, but why isn't there a 4K blu Ray version?
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