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Michael Moore: Trump never wanted to win. Purposefully sabotaging his campaign
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LouisaFerre
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He's not purposefully trying to sabotage it, but I do think that he probably considers holding onto his audience to be more important than winning the election. I can't imagine that he genuinely believes doubling down on his current tactics is going to land him the oval office.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Why is it so hard for people to believe that Trump really is that terrible of a person?
Dash_Riprock
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Poor Moore. He stopped being relevant the moment Bush left office.
I'm not aware of that portrayal.
Because you don't insult the parents of dead soldiers and incite violence if you're not a terrible person?
edit - I misread, I thought I saw "isn't that terrible of a person"
Thanks!
I think you should read that quote again
Lord Frieza
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No, until the DNC and Trump's tanking in the polls, a lot of people really thought Trump was going to win. The "Trump is Unstoppable" narrative was very powerful, even though it was based on flawed logic to begin with.
Exactly. Nothing to see here, Moore is full of heaping loads of shit.
Yep. Constantly changing his people. Going on rants. It is obvious the man is stressed the hell out. This is not a man that is having a big laugh. This is a man that thought he was going to have it all but is slowly watching his dreams slip away. I expect him to get worse the closer to election. Somehow.
Good question. This is why I get so ticked off with the "he's a democrat in disguise" theory.
No. He's a terrible person. That's it. The end. It just so happens his personal agenda of making the history books is also sinking the GOP at the same time.
The amount of bullshit rationalization people have been making about Donald Trump is amazing. No, he's not a Clinton plant. No, he's not trying to throw the election.
He means what he says, he's a fascist, he's a racist, the only real national interests he represents are Russia's, and he's an incompetent who doesn't know how to win a presidential election.
There is no shadowy master plan. He's an unvetted, untested, inexperienced, incompetent egomaniac who has risen to a level of play where he simply can no longer succeed. Shadowy master plan? Cast your eyes hither to interests abroad and domestic that find him to be a useful idiot.
He means what he says, he's a fascist, he's a racist, the only real national interests he represents are Russia's, and he's an incompetent who doesn't know how to win a presidential election.
There is no shadowy master plan. He's an unvetted, untested, inexperienced, incompetent egomaniac who has risen to a level of play where he simply can no longer succeed. Shadowy master plan? Cast your eyes hither to interests abroad and domestic that find him to be a useful idiot.
Lord Frieza
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EDIT: Nevermind, misread
andythinkpad
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I am loving these Punished Trump conspiracies.
I hope Trump never reveal the truth so we can keep on coming up with crazier ones.
I hope Trump never reveal the truth so we can keep on coming up with crazier ones.
DeaconKnowledge
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Can't lie. . This sure would explain a lot.
Justin Bailey
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He ain't sabotaging anything, he just doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.
Let's dispel the myth that Trump doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing.
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Lucky Seven
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Does PolGAF have Tales from my Ass? This definitely sounds like one.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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dude needs to shut the fuck up.
He makes middling documentaries that peddle liberal propoganda. And I say that as a liberal. There are much better documentaries made by those who care more than about making money.
SenjutsuSage
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Exactly. I don't even take this guy seriously anymore. He's just gotten very annoying over the years.
uncredited male
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After the Mark Foley thing I can see it being true.
people who ascribe these underlying motivations and machinations to trump are either projecting or expressing their wish fulfillment.
he does not have a plan, he is pure concentrated unfocused human id. he does not say or do anything for clearly expressible reasons, they emerge from his lizard brain fully formed.
he does not understand himself anymore than we do. in fact i'd say he doesn't really "understand" anything. he is a chinese room with shitty things written on the inside and nothing more.
he does not have a plan, he is pure concentrated unfocused human id. he does not say or do anything for clearly expressible reasons, they emerge from his lizard brain fully formed.
he does not understand himself anymore than we do. in fact i'd say he doesn't really "understand" anything. he is a chinese room with shitty things written on the inside and nothing more.
ThreePiMatt
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I've said the exact same thing in previous threads. There were statements a while back from a former campaign manager that basically said they were shooting for a second place finish in the primaries. But the ball got rolling too fast and Trump's ego couldn't stop it.
It should have been obvious with the Khan stuff. If there is a list of things you don't do on a presidential campaign at the very top of that list, bolded, italicized, highlighted and in all caps it says "DO NOT INSULT A VETERAN OR THEIR FAMILY." Trump is absolutely self-sabotaging his campaign.
It should have been obvious with the Khan stuff. If there is a list of things you don't do on a presidential campaign at the very top of that list, bolded, italicized, highlighted and in all caps it says "DO NOT INSULT A VETERAN OR THEIR FAMILY." Trump is absolutely self-sabotaging his campaign.
Aaron Strife
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"Trump never wanted to win" seems like a hack narrative to once again belittle Hillary Clinton's accomplishments.
gutter_trash
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The same Michael Moore who said that Trump could win?
SenjutsuSage
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He said he would win. I don't listen to the guy anymore. He's just noise at this point.
Yup.
tearsintherain
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His (Moore's) last two movies have been box office poison, maybe he figures the Trump method of just saying stupid stuff will get him more press or something. Low energy guy!
BigJonsson
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So it's the Producers + the South Park kids trying to lose in baseball so they don't have to go to the playoffs 
Glory Fades
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I believe it,
What is incredible; is the republicans have had 8 years, and this field they represented was their best of the best?
Wow.Its simply amazing. I grew up in a hardcore republican house, and I registered as one when I first got the Chance to vote. In my opinion, they have never been more lost as a party then they are now, Antiquated, and stale.
Trump did this for recognition, I really don't think he wants to win.
What is incredible; is the republicans have had 8 years, and this field they represented was their best of the best?
Wow.Its simply amazing. I grew up in a hardcore republican house, and I registered as one when I first got the Chance to vote. In my opinion, they have never been more lost as a party then they are now, Antiquated, and stale.
Trump did this for recognition, I really don't think he wants to win.
Huw_Dawson
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Liberals calmly telling themselves that the incredibly incompetent and divided hard right could never possibly win a vote when it is so brutally clear that the liberal-backed side is superior is the same stuff that allowed Brexit to sneak in through the back door here in the UK.
The centre and left in the US needs to carry on hammering away and working extremely hard to convert the chances of Trump winning from very unlikely to nil.
The centre and left in the US needs to carry on hammering away and working extremely hard to convert the chances of Trump winning from very unlikely to nil.
Cesare Borgia
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Moore pretending like he wasn't predicting a Trump win mere weeks ago.
gutter_trash
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South Park creators were right about Moore all along
Dash_Riprock
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The fear-mongering from UK-GAF is hilarious. Our polls actually mean something unlike yours.
Gabriel_Logan
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He's trying to scare people into voting. Dude doesn't actually think he's going to win.
Mediking
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Lmao!
Lord Frieza
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What the hell about any liberal reaction to Donald Trump has been fucking calm lol
If Trump never wanted to win he would've never had a single press conference in front of a teleprompter. He tried to pivot, he half-assed it and hated it, and now he's going to campaign on his own terms (which makes it look like he's trying to lose because his own terms are fucking crazy).
Lord Frieza
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How does telling people that he never wanted to win scare people into voting lol?
Imperfected
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I mean, "Democrat in Disguise" is unlikely, but "Fake Republican" is pretty accurate. Mostly because he has such a childish, passing understanding of politics that before this whole thing started I doubt he would have been able to tell you the core philosophies or keystone policy positions of either political party.
I wouldn't be surprised if he originally hewed a little left of center on everything but taxes, labor laws, and race relations, to be honest. Though at this point he's been pretty thoroughly briefed on the party policy and probably has internalized it to some extent.
CrunchyFrog
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He's got an uncle that works at Nintendo
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