Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?


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Varteras

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A cunning linguist.

What that tongue do boy?

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Nydius

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So he paid 7 billion just to keep starfield off of playstation? Absolutely mad.
It also highlights the entire reason why many people, including myself, are opposed to this. Money is practically disposable at Microsoft. At the mere hint that Starfield might be console exclusive, timed or otherwise, they spent $7 billion dollars to buy the whole of Zenimax in order to tip the scales in their favor. Sony can't do that. Ever. A $7B purchase to a ~$120B valued company requires deliberation. To a $2T+ company, it's pocket change. Writing off $8B in the failed NOKIA experiment was a mere blip on Microsoft's financial radar.

This acquisition alone is more than half of Sony's entire valuation.
 

splattered

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It also highlights the entire reason why many people, including myself, are opposed to this. Money is practically disposable at Microsoft. At the mere hint that Starfield might be console exclusive, timed or otherwise, they spent $7 billion dollars to buy the whole of Zenimax in order to tip the scales in their favor. Sony can't do that. Ever. A $7B purchase to a ~$120B valued company requires deliberation. To a $2T+ company, it's pocket change. Writing off $8B in the failed NOKIA experiment was a mere blip on Microsoft's financial radar.

This acquisition alone is more than half of Sony's entire valuation.

What are you talking about? Are you telling me Sony couldn't afford a 7 billion purchase? Cause pretty sure they could if they really wanted...
 

DForce

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Wait they did? I missed that part. It looked like they allowed him to forge the MS good guy narrative with his lawyer

Phil said he was giving a statement under oath that they will not remove CoD from PlayStation.

The lawyer basically asked him if he could make this decision over his superiors and he didn't answer the question.

MS higher-ups aren't under oath, so they can take the heat off of Phil Spencer override his decision.
 
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Ansphn

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So Phil is saying they are buying Activision but they don't plan on using the I.Ps like COD to grow the Xbox brand but then turn around and have been making games from Bethesda exclusive? Also wanted to make Minecraft exclusive? That's what they been doing but they expect people to believe they will now suddenly not do this with Activision IPs?
 

Elios83

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Phil said he was giving a statement under oath that they will not remove CoD from PlayStation.

The lawyer basically asked him if he could make this decision over his superiors and he didn't answer the question.

MS higher-ups aren't under oath, so they can take the heat off of Phil Spencer to overside Phil's decision

He didn't answer and so who reached the conclusion that he can't bind the company or higher executives?
Especially if he's about to retire :pie_roffles:
 

Varteras

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Phil said he was giving a statement under oath that they will not remove CoD from PlayStation.

The lawyer basically asked him if he could make this decision over his superiors and he didn't answer the question.

MS higher-ups aren't under oath, so they can take the heat off of Phil Spencer override his decision.

Thanks. Gonna toot my own horn now. His testimony is not a legally binding commitment.

He didn't answer and so who reached the conclusion that he can't bind the company or higher executives?
Especially if he's about to retire :pie_roffles:

That's exactly what a lot of people have been calling on and the FTC did exactly what they needed to do. Get it out of him that either this is fully legally binding to the organization, which many said wasn't true based on his word alone, or expose that there are loopholes to his oath that Microsoft can exploit. The other angle being that Spencer said they would put CoD on PS as long as Sony allows it. Not giving any clarity on if that means a conceivable scenario where Microsoft offers them bullshit terms and Sony declines, to which then Microsoft would use that as another loophole.
 
It also reduces the independent, open-market scale of the 3P publisher market, Phil Spencer. You can try to spin it all you want with fancy wordings but 3P exclusivity deals are inherently defined as being a part of fair competition. Buying out large 3P publishers for vertical M&As to "put (a direct competitor" out of business" is not.

You're failing under scrutiny.
 

Varteras

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does Phil have evidence that its more expensive for Sony to pay for third party exclusivity versus them?

I would imagine that goes without saying. But when you're a company trying to spend upwards of $80 billion to outright own large chunks of the established industry instantly, how can you be outbid by a company making not even $10 billion a year in profits?

EDIT: Sorry. Misread your post.
 
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