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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?


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feynoob

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Spent the last days fixing the algo, was getting too much of the redpill and hustle culture crap.

I think it was better before when I used the DND shorts/tiktoks
Same thing happed in youtube short for me.
I got invaded by those redpill videos and TopG guy. I had to reset my youtube videos in order to not see those stuff again.
I still see a couple of video, but now I just click dont recomend this channel.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
Sony is getting what it deserves and is now desperately trying keep their dirty dealings hidden. This sites bias makes any real conversation around this impossible. The fact that Era is having a better more factual dialogue should be an embarrassment to you all.

You don't think the fact that your own bias aligns with their bias has anything to do with it? Everyone has bias. Nothing wrong with that. The discussion on era is no more, less "factual" just because you agree with what is being said.

And I want to see all the shitty deals which MS did during those years. They probably have embarrassing record.

Plenty of shitty deals to go around despite those who blindly believe it works only one way.
 
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b6a6es

Banned
Sony is getting what it deserves and is now desperately trying keep their dirty dealings hidden. This sites bias makes any real conversation around this impossible. The fact that Era is having a better more factual dialogue should be an embarrassment to you all.
Yeah, just like Monster hunter Rise or ARK 2, oh wait
 

HoldTheAir

Member
You can. Dont try and activiate that deal though. Buy 3 1 year xbox live gold, and use them on your account. After that, try to use the 1$ coupon.
You get 3 year gamepass that way. Just dont activate the code before you use your gold code, or else you will only get 1 year gamepass.
Thank you!!
 

IFireflyl

Gold Member
The fact that Era is having a better more factual dialogue should be an embarrassment to you all.

One could argue that if you think the dialogue is better on Era then you're the one with the problem.

just sayin GIF
 
Sony is getting what it deserves and is now desperately trying keep their dirty dealings hidden. This sites bias makes any real conversation around this impossible. The fact that Era is having a better more factual dialogue should be an embarrassment to you all.

How desperate or frustrated must one be to say, 'the fact that Era is having a better, more factual dialogue'?"

I mean, I was kind of frustrated with the conversation here, and then even a mod said that I was being too mean and cruel.

Now, I have accepted that some people will always cling to one type of narrative or argument, and they will never change their minds.
 

Alex Scott

Member
You're tell me that 5-10 million people get new email addresses and credit cards every month to get $1 game pass I've heard everything now lol I had it for a dollar for a month then just let it keep going cause the service is fantastic & the best value in gaming no joke.
I was able to get 1 dollar deal on the same credit card more than one time on PC MS store.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
I was, too. But I always had to wait several months before being able to redeem the $1 trial offer. I was never able to do it in consecutive months.

I was able to let my PC game pass subscription expire and renew for $1 for successive months, but that was back in 2020.
 

ChiefDada

Member
I'm not a crybaby. I buy games on the platforms they're on if I really want them. I'm a huge Xbox fan. So? I'm still a big Xbox fan that legitimately supports all consoles. I don't cry over games I wanted to be on my favorite platform being elsewhere. I suck it up and just get the games if I really want to play them. Are you a big enough fan of Bethesda's games to swallow your pride and emotions and just play their new games on PC or Xbox? If not, then that means you don't care enough about them anyway and should just stop complaining about what's already settled business. Microsoft owns all Bethesda studios and IPs; they've made their decision to make the games Xbox exclusive. Time to move on.

Whatever you do SenjutsuSage SenjutsuSage do NOT buy games for PS5. It's not a true 10Tf machine! I threw mine in the garbage when you revealed to everyone it's true stable clock of only 1930MHz. Ewww GROSS! Cerny is such a lying-ass marketing bullshitter!


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Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
Whatever you do SenjutsuSage SenjutsuSage do NOT buy games for PS5. It's not a true 10Tf machine! I threw mine in the garbage when you revealed to everyone it's true stable clock of only 1930MHz. Ewww GROSS! Cerny is such a lying-ass marketing bullshitter!


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The best part is "I happen to know the true stable clock is 1930 MHz under heavy load, meaning it's 8.8 TFLOPs."

Genuine question, SenjutsuSage SenjutsuSage - so do you think you were wrong back then? Or do you still stick by it that PS5 is an 8.8 TFLOP console?
 

JLB

Banned
One could argue that if you think the dialogue is better on Era then you're the one with the problem.

just sayin GIF
sadly it is the case lately on many topics. I think that started to degrade a few months ago and decidely went out of control after the last big wave.
Any thread with Phil Spencer on the title, even if he is donating money to a child care org is an automatic three pages of the same memes all over again.
Or here, with people arguing that “no one pays for gp”.
 

xHunter

Member
Not sure if it was already posted, but for those who are interested in an interview with an expert in antitrust law:
You can replace him with any console warrior from twitter and you would get the same talking points. Dude said pretty much nothing that would give him the title of being an "expert in antitrust law" in this interview.
 

mrmustard

Banned
You can replace him with any console warrior from twitter and you would get the same talking points. Dude said pretty much nothing that would give him the title of being an "expert in antitrust law" in this interview.
Yeah he sounds a little bit like he wanted to please the guys from the Xbox site, but he has some knowledge and background. Most likely more than we have.
 
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Not sure if it was already posted, but for those who are interested in an interview with an expert in antitrust law:
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We at XboxDynasty had the unique opportunity to conduct an in-depth interview with Florian Müller from FOSS Patents.

You can't make this shit up.
Its like wanting to prove a point to Xbox gamers by sending a link of a playstation fanboy group making and interview with some "expert" that has stakes in Sony.
 
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mrmustard

Banned
You can't make this shit up.
Its like wanting to prove a point to Xbox gamers by sending a link of a playstation fanboy group making and interview with some "expert" that has stakes in Sony.
I don't want to prove anything. Found it on the internet and thought it might be interesting since this guy seems to have some experience. You highlighted that guys name, is he a known Xbox shill or what? Never heard of him before.
 
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ToadMan

Member
Nintendo has sold 120 million consoles without COD or Madden. The arguments are really shallow.

And Sony hasn’t. Neither has MS.

Which is why this deal is blocked now, and why the 10 year deal with Nintendo is an empty gesture.

Nintendo is an example why MS could be successful even without this acquisition if they could innovate and entice customers rather than coerce them to their platform.
 

Drell

Member
Nintendo has sold 120 million consoles without COD or Madden. The arguments are really shallow.
Nintendo does its own thing, that's how they're still there since the N64. Sony and MS are in direct competition, they need that dudebros FPS that sells like hotcakes to finance their projects.
 

Eotheod

Member
And Sony hasn’t. Neither has MS.

Which is why this deal is blocked now, and why the 10 year deal with Nintendo is an empty gesture.

Nintendo is an example why MS could be successful even without this acquisition if they could innovate and entice customers rather than coerce them to their platform.
Is coercion through conglomerate purchasing not the same as purchasing the rights to a third party game to only appear on your console?

Don't take that seriously though, I'm just riling. I truthfully give no shits what way this goes, I've got an XSX and a decent PC with Switch for Nintendo. It's definitely nice with the range of Game Pass titles, barely have to worry about what to play next despite adult life never really giving me a moment to actually play.
 

ToadMan

Member
I don't want to prove anything. Found it on the internet and thought it might be interesting since this guy seems to have some experience. You highlighted that guys name, is he a known Xbox shill or what? Never heard of him before.

The guy has been wrong on some stuff - recently he claimed the documents submitted by Sony would be made public. They won’t and neither will anyone else’s - there is already a confidentiality order by the administrative court.

And I think he got into a spat with some guy called Idas who is name checked here.

From what I read going past, Idas is already way overstating the likelihood of a new deal being approved for MS, and Foss decided Idas must be a PS console warrior because he wasn’t positive enough MS would get some deal or other approved.

So yeah - you get an idea of where Foss sits on the spectrum - just left of deluded.
 
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Nintendo has sold 120 million consoles without COD or Madden. The arguments are really shallow.

By this thinking, Microsoft shouldn't be blocked from buying any 3rd party ip because Nintendo dominated without them. That's silly thinking. Nintendo and Sony ain't the same. Nintendo isn't affected by these games. Sony is. It doesn't matter anyway. Its irrelevant to the regulators. They are only looking at anti competitive practices. That's why they want big concessions. They won't allow Microsoft to use call of duty to gain an advantage because it would be anti competitive to do so.
 

PaintTinJr

Member
Incorrect.

If MS continued with a prohibited acquisition, UK courts can halt their operations and/or seize assets, freeze bank accounts, suspend operating licenses for business operations and more.

MS will go multiplat in the UK before falling foul of that.
Agreed and it would never come to that IMO, because the US as a country aren't in the habit of letting anything get in the way of their most important nuclear/defence and geopolitical ally relationship, and the US government seizing control of Microsoft is more likely than them doing such a thing.

People keep talking about the $3b penalty as important to Microsoft (shareholders) while forgetting what a monthly 1% swing in share price of a 2Trillion dollar company costs or gains shareholders . Such a decision if even possible to impilment - I firmly believe they couldn't - would cost their share price double digit drops and that would run to hundreds of billions in loses for shareholders, so I agree it is never happening.
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
By this thinking, Microsoft shouldn't be blocked from buying any 3rd party ip because Nintendo dominated without them. That's silly thinking. Nintendo and Sony ain't the same. Nintendo isn't affected by these games. Sony is. It doesn't matter anyway. Its irrelevant to the regulators. They are only looking at anti competitive practices. That's why they want big concessions. They won't allow Microsoft to use call of duty to gain an advantage because it would be anti competitive to do so.

but it’s not anticompetitive. Nintendo proves that. It’s the same market .. they all have the same advantages. Saying Nintendo isn’t the same is dumb when they are the market leaders. You could easily just say Sony and ms are doing it wrong and need to be more like Nintendo.. either way there is no monopoly there for either platform and MS is a distant third.
 

ToadMan

Member
Is coercion through conglomerate purchasing not the same as purchasing the rights to a third party game to only appear on your console?

Well

1. That kind of third party exclusivity is available to the entire market as it exists today - it is a common practice and one which MS has made use of many times itself. Acquisition - particularly of publishers - removes that third party option and instead makes it first party. So that is a significant loss of competition for that third party content.

And

2. The regulators aren’t investigating those kind of third party exclusivity deals, so the point is irrelevant. They are investigating this MS-ABK attempted acquisition though.

So that’s why this deal is blocked.

Don't take that seriously though, I'm just riling. I truthfully give no shits what way this goes, I've got an XSX and a decent PC with Switch for Nintendo. It's definitely nice with the range of Game Pass titles, barely have to worry about what to play next despite adult life never really giving me a moment to actually play.

What you or I think doesn’t matter - the regulators have blocked it for very well stated reasons.
 
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Astray

Member
If MS wanted to block this they could, it would be as easy as to limit the usage of the promo just once per account.
Because they don't want to/can't.

They still haven't reached critical mass for Gamepass, adding barriers would be the equivalent of Netflix enforcing their 1 account per household thing before they became ubiquitous.

They raised Xbox live gold to make those users Sub to gamepass.
They even want as far as to remove the ability to buy them from their store and Xbox store.
Your only option for these 12 month cards to buy them from retails.

They want to kill Xbox live gold completely. Look at Xbox live monthly games.
Yep they are disincentivising XBLG for a reason, they want the higher spend, and are keenly aware of people using the conversion trick for GPU.

Not a chance in hell
If you were Nadella, would you choose the guy who delivered failure for over a decade, or one of the most influential gaming business CEOs of all time?

10 times out of 10, Nadella would choose Kotick.
 

PaintTinJr

Member
but it’s not anticompetitive. Nintendo proves that. It’s the same market .. they all have the same advantages. Saying Nintendo isn’t the same is dumb when they are the market leaders. You could easily just say Sony and ms are doing it wrong and need to be more like Nintendo.. either way there is no monopoly there for either platform and MS is a distant third.
CoD probably accounts for as much as $1b-$2b in revenue of PlayStation, and virtually nothing for Nintendo. If the deal goes through Sony's shares will like take a hit because a competitor that's parent company dwarfs them in market cap are then gaining from every sale made from that $1B-$2B forever more, so Sony becomes beholden to a competitor and positionally weakened.

That's why it is anti-competitive, because it isn't a natural move by Xbox being successful and gaining market share by absorbing a business partner.
 
If you were Nadella, would you choose the guy who delivered failure for over a decade, or one of the most influential gaming business CEOs of all time?

10 times out of 10, Nadella would choose Kotick.

Once Kottick becomes a Microsoft employee it will be easier for that to happen. If he delivers great results then I don't see why they wouldn't promote him.

Not saying it will happen but its definitely a possibility.
 

ToadMan

Member
but it’s not anticompetitive. Nintendo proves that. It’s the same market .. they all have the same advantages. Saying Nintendo isn’t the same is dumb when they are the market leaders. You could easily just say Sony and ms are doing it wrong and need to be more like Nintendo.. either way there is no monopoly there for either platform and MS is a distant third.

True. Good argument for why MS will be blocked from buying ABK and taking their content exclusive.
 
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Astray

Member
Once Kottick becomes a Microsoft employee it will be easier for that to happen. If he delivers great results then I don't see why they wouldn't promote him.

Not saying it will happen but its definitely a possibility.
If Kotick wants it, and is healthy enough to take it on, then it's an inevitability imo.
 

Drell

Member
Once Kottick becomes a Microsoft employee it will be easier for that to happen. If he delivers great results then I don't see why they wouldn't promote him.

Not saying it will happen but its definitely a possibility.
I'm not sure he needs the money, but at least he could wash his bad image since Microsoft are the nice guys. On top of that, he'd become a god for the people at resetera.
 
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