Bitstream
Member
Man I'd pay 120 to play it now
My apologies to Ubisoft, Sony, Activision, EA, MS etc. for making a big deal out of $70 games
- Thread starter SlimySnake
- Start date
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.001
Gaming is about fun, Mario Kart is that.
Klayzer
Member
Dude has been crying about, every criticism aimed at Nintendo, since the reveal. It's been pretty entertaining.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Now I'm picturing Jimbo and Philbo Baggins.
Bernardougf
Member
Really funny to see people finally waking up to nintendo bullshit ... but its not something new.Obviously this is about Nintendo charging $90 for Mario Kart World while it looks two generations behind Forza Horizon, The Crew, NFS and other open world racers from these so called Evil/Greedy publishers.
EA was literally voted the worst company in the world during the gen when they were charging $60 for games that looked like this:
SonyTake2 started off the $70 price tag this gen followed quickly by Activision, and later Sony. Thanks to latest leaks and court filings, we now know that their games cost $200-300 million, and COD actually costs $500 million last gen. Again, they kept the prices at $60 until the start of this gen, and released $60 versions of their cross gen games with no upgrade fees.
They understood that not every game costs $200 million to make, and released Astrobot for $60, and Miles for $50.
Even MS released Hellblade for $50 and Remedy released Alan Wake 2 for $50. $40 on PC.
MS did 4k 60 fps remasters of all their games for free. Sony only charged $10 for them. Most other publishers like Ubisoft and EA did them for free. Nintendo is charging $80 for them. For a remaster.
Either it's time to vote for Nintendo as the worst company in America, or go on our knees and beg forgiveness from these other publishers for giving us these graphically impressive 100 hour games for just $70. I'd rather do the former, but doing the latter for now. So Jimbo, Philbo, Bobby, and Monsuier Guillemot , I'm sorry, but we have a new greedy CEO in town and its no surprise his name is Doug Bowser.
ByWatterson
Member
$80 for a game with smaller Nintendo budgets is wild.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
When has that ever happened?
PS4 game prices didn't go down when that console hit 100m.
dragonyeuw
Member
Exactly. Sony has raised prices throughout this gen for hardware, there's no reason whatsoever they couldn't use the 'due to global economic conditions' line and raise the game price again. They don't have to wait till PS6.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
After tax. $710 for the console.
If games are 80 in the US they'll be about $126 here after tax.
Sevyne
Member
Why wait until next gen? Just keep adding more A's to AAA and upcharge $10 more for each A.
awwr999999
Member
Physical media as we know it traps users on old HW and PS should have killed it off generations ago.
PSN needs a new scheme of unified physical and digital where 100% of games are owned at the PSN level, period.
Games could be obtained via physical disc or download but ownership would be futureproof via PSN.
E.g., Every game anyone buys for a PS console will be backed up forever in their PSN library. Users can collect boxed physical discs but if they lose them they can be replaced cheaply without having to pay for another license.
If the PS1 had had the PSN and 100% of PS1 games were owned at the PSN level every PS console since PS2 (160mil) would have had exponentially more users.
PS3/4/5 would all have PS2/1 HW BC instead of the endless PS2/1 remasters/remakes and PSN would still be selling new PS1/2 games to users on PS1/2/3/4/5 consoles.
Like it or not, consoles exist in a universe where Steam users buy games once (risk free) and retain them for life.
Last edited:
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
This makes things so much easier to not impulse buy, work on back logs, buy on sale, and only day one support full price devs you trust.
This literally affects no one. The games could be $500.
Be smarter consumers, do you guys just burn money all year round to develop backlogs of games you never complete?
The industry is helping your poor spending and impulses. Say thanks to Nintendo.
This literally affects no one. The games could be $500.
Be smarter consumers, do you guys just burn money all year round to develop backlogs of games you never complete?
The industry is helping your poor spending and impulses. Say thanks to Nintendo.
OK
Sony: Most Profitable Generation To-Date (OI $10B, Mar 24)
(OI, Dec 2024)
LTD (Aligned)
Low margins led to explosive revenue growth,
market dominance,
and record breaking profits
Mar 24 +172%
Jun 24 +33%
Sep 24 +184%
Dec 24 +37%
with MINIMAL investment.
Totoki was installed (by Yoshida) because Sony Group operating income declined 7% in FY23, cash reserves dropped by ¥167 bn, debt almost doubled in just two years, Pictures and I&SS cut their profit forecasts in FY24, Financial didn't fit in well with the rest of Sony after investing $3.7 billion, Music will never be the golden goose and investors were fuming.
If SIE permanently dropped PS5 prices to 299, increased its R&D or M&A, Yoshida (Chairman, 1959) and Totoki (CEO, 1964), the most incompetent duo to ever run Sony, would be cooked.
They are leaning on SIE to buoy the whole conglomerate's financials for the next several years, and cling to power.
Sony Becomes Japan's Second-Largest Company
Sony lifts profit forecast on gaming business growth
Sony Shares Soar on Solid Momentum in Games and Buyback Hopes
Grildon Tundy
Member
If I was the only one with a copy, I'd pay up to $2000. I'd make $$$ just filming it barebones no editing and putting it on YouTube.
But if we're talking it's available to any- and everyone for X amount right now? $300. And I'd pay $100 at its actual launch--but GTA 6 is one of the very VERY few games I'd do that for.
Inflation happened lol but game prices actually drop pretty fast on PS4 , PC , Xbox One & Series.
A.Romero
Member
Value is relative and inflation is a bitch. Game pricing have not been aligned to inflation for a while but that obviously can't be held forever.
People are capable of paying that and more for stuff they like. They will pay for it in installments if necessary. Companies will always charge as much as the market is willing to pay and most likely a good chunk of players will pay what Nintendo is asking. It doesn't mean that everyone is in the same position and it could happen that the amount of players that decide to pay for an increased price is not high enough to make that approach permanent but they have to try. Sony tried it with PS3 and they adapted when the market didn't respond well.
Historically Nintendo games don't come down in price with time or at least not as much as other publishers' games. Maybe this will be what pushes them to release they greatest hits version down the road which means that people that don't want to pay new release price just have to wait.
No company owes consumers anything and the same applies back. They don't have to sell for lower than they think the market is willing to pay and we as consumers don't have to pay for anything that we don't feel is worth it.
Nothing really has an intrisic value, everything is perceived. If it wasn't like this stuff like water would be the most valuable thing we could spend money on but it's not exactly like that.
TL;DR: Just buy at the price you think is worth it. If MK World or whatever is not worth the asking price to you, just don't buy it. It's OK.
People are capable of paying that and more for stuff they like. They will pay for it in installments if necessary. Companies will always charge as much as the market is willing to pay and most likely a good chunk of players will pay what Nintendo is asking. It doesn't mean that everyone is in the same position and it could happen that the amount of players that decide to pay for an increased price is not high enough to make that approach permanent but they have to try. Sony tried it with PS3 and they adapted when the market didn't respond well.
Historically Nintendo games don't come down in price with time or at least not as much as other publishers' games. Maybe this will be what pushes them to release they greatest hits version down the road which means that people that don't want to pay new release price just have to wait.
No company owes consumers anything and the same applies back. They don't have to sell for lower than they think the market is willing to pay and we as consumers don't have to pay for anything that we don't feel is worth it.
Nothing really has an intrisic value, everything is perceived. If it wasn't like this stuff like water would be the most valuable thing we could spend money on but it's not exactly like that.
TL;DR: Just buy at the price you think is worth it. If MK World or whatever is not worth the asking price to you, just don't buy it. It's OK.
SweetTooth
Banned
There are lots of "FUN" games at $10 , $20, $60 or less, your statement has nothing to do with the topic UNLESS you are from crowds with cultish mentality of:
Fun= Mario, Zelda,Donkey shit ..whatever Nintendo rehashes every year since 1986
Trash= everything else
Then I can't argue with you.
Klayzer
Member
Nintendo zealots, act like their games are the only fun games on the market. It's baffling.
SweetTooth
Banned
They have been conditioned and primed to think like that! Nintendo withdrawal from high end consoles has emphasized this notion of "fun is only Nintendo" since its the only thing they cling on .. a subjective notion treated as a fact
Wait for them to try Elden Ring and realize how mediocre and overrated BotW was lol
hououinkyouma00
Gold Member
Learn how inflation works.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Fuck them all. They are equally greedy bastards and fanboys arguing over who is the lesser evil is a pathetic watch.
Budgets are bloated. If they managed their projects properly, there wouldnt any need for price increases. We are already paying more by having games with countless bugs, content that should have been included in the game sold separately as DLC, season passes, and a long etc.
Did any of you ask for 150-hour open worlds plagued with filler? for Raytracing? 30 hours of cinematics? I didn't ask any of this, so it's not "the market" that forced them to go that route.
Game design hasn't evolved in the least from the last gen, so they shouldnt add a single dollar to those prices. It's crazy that people are paying more for the same game with a crisper filter.
Budgets are bloated. If they managed their projects properly, there wouldnt any need for price increases. We are already paying more by having games with countless bugs, content that should have been included in the game sold separately as DLC, season passes, and a long etc.
Did any of you ask for 150-hour open worlds plagued with filler? for Raytracing? 30 hours of cinematics? I didn't ask any of this, so it's not "the market" that forced them to go that route.
Game design hasn't evolved in the least from the last gen, so they shouldnt add a single dollar to those prices. It's crazy that people are paying more for the same game with a crisper filter.
Generic
Member
Nintendo only got $1.5 billions in profits, now games must cost $80 to compensate.
Last edited:
Topher
Identifies as young
"only"
reinking
Gold Member
I don't care how much they make but people pointing to inflation like Nintendo had to increase costs by as much as they did or go broke is silly.
Last edited:
asdasdasdbb
Member
Most of Sony's profits come from PS+ and the cut from third party GAAS games. Have to figure that's not going to last.
cripterion
Member
Hopefully the others don't follow suit... Here I thought 100€ deluxe editions were ridiculous.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Fixed for you.
And edited
Last edited:
CoreyFlawless
Member
Yeah not getting a launch and sure don't care for it now
nial
Member
Not arguing over it being Nintendo's ""wost"" console. ""Wost"" sounds like a pretty nice word.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Voice type shouldn't of done this as wost isn't even a word.
Anyway... wii made me lose a lot of respect for Nintendo.
00_Zer0
Member
No, $100 will be for the base game. If you want the Ealy Access version of GTA VI you will pay $150.00 and say give me more daddy.
Radical_3d
Member
Yeah, I also loved the first season of Mando, but I mean for games.
Hawk The Slayer
Member
Honestly I always thought being 70 was fair as it's a alright and fair price increase overtime. While things like graphic cards/PS5 Pro are the ones that went overboard especially the graphic cards.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
See above.Visuals only surpassed by the dead controls and amazing game play.
bender
What time is it?
The baseball game looks fun.
Radical_3d
Member
Probably the only one that doesn't perform like ass XDDD
![L*][*N*K](/data/avatars/m/842/842515.jpg?1744192062){kind=avatar}
L*][*N*K
Member
120, mark my words.
Bartski
Member
Last edited:
Banjo64
cumsessed
In my view paying £75 for Mario Kart or GTA which will be the current entry for 7-10 years is reasonable. Although I'd obviously prefer they were still £40.
Paying £75 for Assassin's Creed, Pokemon, FIFA or any other annual slop fest is completely unreasonable.
The market will correct itself as the games that do sell for £75 will sell, and the games that don't will rapidly drop in price.
Paying £75 for Assassin's Creed, Pokemon, FIFA or any other annual slop fest is completely unreasonable.
The market will correct itself as the games that do sell for £75 will sell, and the games that don't will rapidly drop in price.
bighugeguns
Member
No game is worth $70, hardly anything is even worth $60.
This industry has an extremely overinflated sense of self-worth.
This industry has an extremely overinflated sense of self-worth.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
I remember when an online petition called "video games are a rip off" was launched for a brief period around, I dunno, 2002 or 2003. I tried discussing it on the GameFAQs forums, and I was laughed away with pretty much the same rhetoric still used in these discussions today. And games used to cost $50 back then, $60 tops (but I do remember MGS2 being sold in Italy for €71, and this was when the Euro was very young and surely worth a bit more than today, my friends).
So it turns out that all the people saying that games were actually way cheaper than they should be, accounting for inflation, were right for the past 20 years. OP should apologize to all the people he no doubt called corporate bootlickers, not to the companies that now will jump on Nintendo's bandwagon and raise their prices as well.
So it turns out that all the people saying that games were actually way cheaper than they should be, accounting for inflation, were right for the past 20 years. OP should apologize to all the people he no doubt called corporate bootlickers, not to the companies that now will jump on Nintendo's bandwagon and raise their prices as well.
bigdad2007
Member
You think this is bad now, wait until 2k makes the new "next gen" AAA games like GTA6 $100+ for the base game.
L*][*N*K
Member
That is how I feel about the next Zelda, like I am sorry I spend more money on a night out and I hate going out
poodaddy
Member
Unfortunately, I've decided to grab the console despite my misgivings about the price, and trust me I think it's patently absurd and the corporate bootlickers who keep taking up for the price increases are fucking weak cucks. I'll grab that Mario Kart bundle, and I've got an online membership so I think I get some of those upgrade packs for free, so I'll just play Mario Kart, Zelda, and my already fairly extensive library until there's a sale on other first party titles I'm interested in, and yes I know I'll be waiting at least three years. The E shop actually does do sales on first party titles these days, don't know why more people haven't gotten that memo, but yeah it takes a while and the first party discounts tend to max out around 30%, so it'll still be pretty pricey.
I'm conflicted on the Switch 2 in general. From a tech standpoint it's literally nailing everything for me specifically, and it's gonna bring the GameCube to the online libraries, which is a colossal win. On the other hand, these prices are egregious, and I wouldn't blame anyone for not wanting to support Nintendo's bullshit here. I'm hoping that Nintendo comes to their senses and knocks off the $80 price tag shit moving forward after seeing the bad PR....but I know Nintendo isn't much for responding to community feedback in general so, fat chance, I get it.
Another factor for me personally is that I have kids. I can't imagine how much fun my daughter and I are gonna have on Mario Kart World together. Can't lie, probably wouldn't buy it if I was single, and I can't see why someone with a capable PC and other consoles, like myself, would buy one if they were single, unless of course they travel a lot, as a 1080p, HDR, G-Sync, powerful portable for traveling is pretty compelling to be certain.
I'm conflicted on the Switch 2 in general. From a tech standpoint it's literally nailing everything for me specifically, and it's gonna bring the GameCube to the online libraries, which is a colossal win. On the other hand, these prices are egregious, and I wouldn't blame anyone for not wanting to support Nintendo's bullshit here. I'm hoping that Nintendo comes to their senses and knocks off the $80 price tag shit moving forward after seeing the bad PR....but I know Nintendo isn't much for responding to community feedback in general so, fat chance, I get it.
Another factor for me personally is that I have kids. I can't imagine how much fun my daughter and I are gonna have on Mario Kart World together. Can't lie, probably wouldn't buy it if I was single, and I can't see why someone with a capable PC and other consoles, like myself, would buy one if they were single, unless of course they travel a lot, as a 1080p, HDR, G-Sync, powerful portable for traveling is pretty compelling to be certain.
Last edited:
Similar threads
- Poll