Ummm...Sony is close to leading 2:1 worldwide. Just not in NA.
8.7M sold though as of when?
8.7M sold though as of when?
I said in the post.
It comes from combining CY2013 of 3.0m. With USA + UK + GER + FRA sell through figures from NPD and GFK for CY2014 which is ~5.7m+ at a minimum. (as we're missing dec for Germany and UK which is the biggest month)
So we can say at the very least that sell through as of December 31st 2014 will be at the minimum ~8.7m. But we're missing sell through data for a further 38 markets for the whole of 2014. (Japan is 50k for example)
They didn't launch in Tier 2 countries until September 21st what what do you mean the whole year for 38 countries?
And why is it absurd to have 1m in the channel/shelves?
Based on what, exactly? Besides a statement made on a conference call by Natella (we don't even know what he was using as a source) We have nothing that says says they even hit the 10million shipped yet. While I'm pretty sure they did hit the number I don't think they sold every unit especially since there were reports of extreme overstock. I don't think Microsoft shipments increased, I think they prioritized certain markets over others (like they did at launch). 6.3 Million in America LTD. 1.3 million in UK so 7.6M. Please explain where they other 2.9 million is coming from when UK is their 2nd largest market?
Tier 2 launch was spread throughout September. We also don't have updated sales figures for the 38 other countries that the Xbox One has launched in. Ony concrete numbers we have are the US (6.2m), France (416k), and Japan (45k).
well if you divide 2.9 million by 39 countries that equals ~74000 shipped per country. So the average shipment of 74000 is possible.
10 million sold through is quite a mediocre number. Especially after the price cut.
They didn't launch in Tier 2 countries until September 21st what what do you mean the whole year for 38 countries? It was only 13 markets until September 2014.
Still, the Xbox One had 900k "shipped" leftover back in 2013. That number isn't going to be bigger the next go around.
Isn't that better than the 360's first year + holliday though? Or am I full of shit?
Because there usually is only that much product in the chanel in the build up to holidays, not in January.
Don't sound so insecure. Not everyone is interested in console wars. Most of us are just making predictions which may be right or wrong.Man some folk seem eager to prove the One hasn't sold through 10 million plus. You know that even if its sold through 12 million (which it hasn't) its still well behind the PS4 right?
Its ok guys. The Xbox wont catch up. Sleep soundly.
Isn't that better than the 360's first year + holliday though? Or am I full of shit?
Why don't they just release the numbers
Yes.
However don't expect that to continue, especially as CY2014 sales for Xbox One have been lower than CY2006 sales for 360. It was only because Xbox One shipped 3.9m at launch, compared to 1.5m 360's that the console has enjoyed the lead over the 360 thus far.
Isn't that better than the 360's first year + holliday though? Or am I full of shit?
LOL, seriously?too much azure/cloud talk
no one give a shit about other divisions.
Fair enough, this 8.7M sold through was as of when?No that's cool.... just ignore the actual content in my post....
We're still missing sales data for UK + GER fo December as well as 9 other market for the whole of 2014 and 29 other markets for 4 months.
The minimum it can be with that missing data is 8.7m. It's fairly obvious that sell through will be around 9 million just by adding Germany and UK December sales so that leaves 38 markets unaccounted for. Rest of Europe, Canada, Australia etc...
Happy now....
Ah, sort of off topic butl if it manages to break the 60 million lifetime barrier I'd say that's pretty healthy for a console. Wonder how high the PS4 will go, I guess it depends on a combination of how long this gen lasts and how much legs it has.
Expected. Isn't it their best division right now?too much azure/cloud talk
no one give a shit about other divisions.
Don't sound so insecure. Not everyone is interested in console wars. Most of us are just making predictions which may be right or wrong.
too much azure/cloud talk
no one give a shit about other divisions.
I'm one of those who think the sold through number is below 10 million but does that mean I'm insecure? It's just my prediction which may be wrongInsecure? My post was directed at those who would be insecure. Even if the sold through figure is around the 10-10.5 mill mark, is that bad? It certainly won't harm anyone. So it seems strange that a few posters seem eager to keep the number below 10 when in the bigger picture it means very little at this early stage.
In all likelihood, they've sold through over 10 mill. Australia alone was at well over 100K I believe before the middle of 2014.
LOL, seriously?
Expected. Isn't it their best division right now?
They are really close to being 2:1 in just the US. WW they are likely well over that.
Fair enough, this 8.7M sold through was as of when?
Ah, sort of off topic butl if it manages to break the 60 million lifetime barrier I'd say that's pretty healthy for a console. Wonder how high the PS4 will go, I guess it depends on a combination of how long this gen lasts and how much legs it has.
And why is it absurd to have 1m in the channel/shelves?
So I take it the numbers are ~10mil XBO vs. ~19Mil PS4.
Excellent numbers for the PS4 and good numbers for the XBO.
Xbox revenue is down 20%? Did I read that right?
call is over
no one asked anything about xbox, phones, bing or whatever. Q&A was pretty much just azure/cloud + windows.
Lowered 360 sales and heavy bundles were not going to bring revenue up.
Too bad but that division is almost a rounding error for themcall is over
no one asked anything about xbox, phones, bing or whatever. Q&A was pretty much just azure/cloud + windows.
Of course they did.
Doesn't really matter though. They'll offset that from the coming revenue those consoles will bring in. I hope.
10.2 million sold through is actually about right. But this best case scenario though. Good shit.Higher for both.
Happy to see the Surface doing well, very fond of mine. I got it through work but still, really nice piece of hardware and I`d give MS a chance for my next tablet type device.
Agreee. Ill have one of these forever.Glad to see the Surface Pro 3 is doing well. It's a beautiful piece of hardware.