MS seems committed to bringing their big exclusives to PC with their Play Anywhere initiative. Some indie games however may want to concentrate on their console release first, but that doesn't mean much when we will be served by getting to play the big Xbox exclusives on the PC.
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Microsoft needs more exclusives throughout the year
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You right it's not, and I'm having one of my sick days but looking at my games library shelf I'm willing to bet whatever 3DS has more exclusives than PS4 if someone is willing to do the legwork.
Hell, I'm willing to put a pin in it and come back around in a year and measure Switch exclusives.
This debate is ultimately subjective but it's worth keeping some perspective.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
Yeah, because i can play the game whatever platform it's going to release, and they don't losing the game when the game not release in their platform since they never own the game at all, what's wrong?
Okami Haundo
Member
I really agree with you OP! Ignoring that they could just plain use more "exclusives" in general, they definitely need to spread things out more. Forza makes sense as an early fall title, but putting games like Crackdown 3 against Call of Duty and Battlefront 2 just doesn't make sense.
They should take a queue from Sony and make early Spring their target for most of the titles. Save fall for third party games and "big" exclusives like Halo and Gears.
They should take a queue from Sony and make early Spring their target for most of the titles. Save fall for third party games and "big" exclusives like Halo and Gears.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
What's his point? Number of exclusives matter or quality of the titles for the individual making the judgement.
If Xbox doesn't have enough exclusives why does PlayStation?
I think they have some incredible games, but they either take a long time to make or they all come in the fall. It's looking like 2018 may be different with Sea of Thieves and State of Decay 2 hitting earlier in the year, but then I wonder if anything else will hit until the fall when they will have Horizon 4, Halo 6, and Ori.
I'm in that problem where I would love to get the Xbox One X, I'm really looking for a reason to buy one, but for $200 more (in Canada) I can just buy a brand new PC and slap my video card in there. But that also benefits them, since I'll still be buying their games and also Windows 10.
I love the franchises and games they make, but it's the release calendar that is the issue for me personally.
I'm in that problem where I would love to get the Xbox One X, I'm really looking for a reason to buy one, but for $200 more (in Canada) I can just buy a brand new PC and slap my video card in there. But that also benefits them, since I'll still be buying their games and also Windows 10.
I love the franchises and games they make, but it's the release calendar that is the issue for me personally.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
Gaming PC, having a PC is not enough to run many games well.
Jaded Alyx
Member
You should read the post he was responding to again.
Someone said why bother with PS4 or Xbox if you have a PC. Responding with "because PS4 has the most exclusives of any console" doesn't invalidate what the original poster said since he was comparing PC to PS4.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Well, we're on a gaming forum so PC should be taken as "gaming PC".
They absolutely do. But when you can coast by on PR for drip feeding BC for some XB360 games where is the incentive to spend actual money on making interesting new games (And not just announcing them only to cancel them later) or expanding first party studios instead of closing them down?
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
MS just doesn't inspire any confidence that they as an organisation care about making games. I mean, they make games and fund games, sure, but the stuff they do always seems to just chase the same tired trends that the rest of the industry does.
Sure, every game publisher needs to follow the mainstream in order to access that broader audience and keep the organisation afloat. Sony on the other hand, does a much better job of investing in both mainstream games like Uncharted and Killzone, as well as lovely little experiments and high risk new IP like Detroit, Dreams, Horizon: ZD.
It's why I'll continue to game on PS, since they develop and fund more games, as well as more of the games I enjoy.
MS will have a great piece of hw out by the end of this year with the XB1X, it's just a shame that there doesn't appear to be a single piece of appealing (to me) software from them actually take advantage of it.
Also, since they've started putting all their first party stuff on PC, I've always said they made their XB hw redundant, since I have a pretty strong PC too. Incidentally, however, despite being able to buy Xbox games on PC, I don't actually own a single one... since none have appealed to me at all.
Sure, every game publisher needs to follow the mainstream in order to access that broader audience and keep the organisation afloat. Sony on the other hand, does a much better job of investing in both mainstream games like Uncharted and Killzone, as well as lovely little experiments and high risk new IP like Detroit, Dreams, Horizon: ZD.
It's why I'll continue to game on PS, since they develop and fund more games, as well as more of the games I enjoy.
MS will have a great piece of hw out by the end of this year with the XB1X, it's just a shame that there doesn't appear to be a single piece of appealing (to me) software from them actually take advantage of it.
Also, since they've started putting all their first party stuff on PC, I've always said they made their XB hw redundant, since I have a pretty strong PC too. Incidentally, however, despite being able to buy Xbox games on PC, I don't actually own a single one... since none have appealed to me at all.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
Are PC and mobile exclusive items outside the grasp of the general consumer?
I'm asking what is the point. Or are we gonna pretend that PC and mobile gaming doesn't compete against console gaming when everyone in the world agrees that they do starting at wall street.
Besides everyone likes to say Xbox exclusives are not that because you can buy them on PC lol so which is it.
AtomicShroom
Member
They need their first parties to pump out more games.
Remember back when Rare would release up to 3 AAA-tier games per year? Right now they've been over 4 years without a single AAA-tier game, and that's only IF you count Kinect Sports Rival as one such game. It's mind-boggling to think they're going to grace the Xbox One with only 3 games over the course of its entire lifespan, one of which being a collection of old games. The N64 got 12 games from them! 12!!
Their output is nothing short of pathetic.
Remember back when Rare would release up to 3 AAA-tier games per year? Right now they've been over 4 years without a single AAA-tier game, and that's only IF you count Kinect Sports Rival as one such game. It's mind-boggling to think they're going to grace the Xbox One with only 3 games over the course of its entire lifespan, one of which being a collection of old games. The N64 got 12 games from them! 12!!
Their output is nothing short of pathetic.
Yearsoflurking
Member
Yes bringing up game sales in a thread about needing more exclusives is weird to me. Very consolewarish. Tacoma deserves much more sales, it's a great game and has had a big impact for me personally
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Nekketsu Kõha;245829970 said:
I hope you have good health insurance. You're going to throw something out of whack with all of this twisting and turning you're attempting.
So you don't have any source? Let's deal with facts:
Fact 1: Not all Xbox One games are on PC
Fact 2: Not all Xbox games will be on PC
Feel free to dispute those with alternative facts. This should be good.
But it is about having a preference. You don't have a say in that matter. You don't see something, but many do see it. You brought up console sales, not us.
I have played Destiny since day one, and played 3 days just this week. Raids and strikes, which are all on the Xbox version do indeed make a difference. So does the best performance and where the friends are. I will be getting the Xbox version again, which will have the best performance, with most of my friends, and all of the content that the PS version has.
I am not bothered about PC because I am a console gamer first and foremost. I leave PC for my PC exclusives.
Yeah, just re-read that thread of responses and fair play. However, your original statement was pointless in the first place given there are many exclusive exclusives on PS4 that you are choosing to ignore for some reason and your continued arguments are winding people up so I think you are rightly earning the responses you are receivingNekketsu Kõha;245829970 said:
64bitbros
Member
I did. He respondend to "True. Why own an Xbox or PlayStation these days, exactly."
Which the guy responded to that the "Playstation has the most exclusives of any console." Which is correct. So if you want to grab the exclusives available on console's, Playstation is probably the one to get. Which is a fair assessment.
Do mobile and PC have more exclusives? Pretty sure they do. But that is not what he said.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
By this standard i guess many people will be getting fired from gaf, since PC isn't something "must have" even in gaming forum anymore.
Hasn't Sony always had more exclusives than Microsoft? What are people expecting here? For Microsoft to do the damn near impossible and create as many or more exclusives than Sony? Exclusives are great and all, but it's the third party support that drives sales. I'm surprised this thread is still open. Topics like these bring out the fanboy in so many people.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
So just more nonsense instead of saying anything of value. Xbox exclusives don't count because of PC, PC doesn't count because it isnt a console.
Peace
ignored.
How can that even be a thing that they can be satisfied with? Are people like "oh yea, the UI changed, that'll get me back to playing some more"?!
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Name me one Xbox game that's coming out, or has released in the past year that's not on PC.
No dancing around the subject. Name me a game.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
I saw someone here saying that after this gen MS will probably only be about Halo, Gears and Forza and nothing else as for big AAA games and while that sounds damn bad to me it honestly isn't really all that different right now. Next to Gears, Halo and Forza we have some smaller games and now and then something like Recore and Ori but those aren't necessarily returning franchises.
As a big Xbox gamer naturally I hope they will start making some drastic changes and start investing in brand new AAA exclusives but that seems very doubtful. It IS the next logical step after they have now corrected most of the mistakes Mattrick made, but only if it's profitable for MS and that sure isn't guaranteed. There is of course that information about a Horizon ZD like game for Xbox, I guess there's that.
As a big Xbox gamer naturally I hope they will start making some drastic changes and start investing in brand new AAA exclusives but that seems very doubtful. It IS the next logical step after they have now corrected most of the mistakes Mattrick made, but only if it's profitable for MS and that sure isn't guaranteed. There is of course that information about a Horizon ZD like game for Xbox, I guess there's that.
Waiting on you. Or are you just being obtuse? Or do you have access to MS's upcoming game portfolio while the rest of us, and the web don't have it?
Please, no spin. Prove that MS is wrong.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
What? Lol
Nekketsu Kõha;245828612 said:
Cool you entered a new world.
By the way you can buy really long and great HDMI cables not that expensive actually all the way up to 10 meters works. I wouldn't recommend trying to go at it wireless streaming.
Don't forget good old games GOG for old titles you might have missed out on for PC.
Thanks for the suggestions! And yep I will explore more on PC for sure and get a longer HDMI cable soon
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
Sorry for winding you all up. I will try not to mention PC, mobile and Switch again when talking about games.
I think some people want to see a little more investment from MS with regards to first party stuff.
Then again imo, I see a ton of other hardcore type fans who seem perfectly happy with the status quo.
Don't really see MS changing course any time soon.
Nekketsu Kõha;245830534 said:
I think the PS vs. XB is like a Mustang vs. Camaro thing. People for get about the Dodge Challenger (aka Switch or PC) because they are so focused on one specific rivalry.
I personally find that owning and playing them all is the best way. I want a Switch, but I will get it once we get a new Donkey Kong.
While you may get 3rd party exclusives on the console.....which will most definitely be timed.....all first party exclusives will be on PC
edit: actually just go here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Studios
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Nekketsu Kõha;245830286 said:
Factually PlayStation 4 (the console from the company you hate) has more exclusive games then any other console. I know, it's painful for you to accept.
Now if you can't handle that simple truth, then run and hit ignore.
Jaguar Victory
Member
I guess I play more than just exclusives so it doesn't bother me a lot. I do hope for better first party output but it's not a deal breaker for me.
aspiegamer
Member
This is an area where market domination gives a positive feedback loop on future software. There are oodles of third party PS exclusives this year that have been on lists but I'm not sure Sony paid a single yen for any of them. When you're squashing your most direct competitor--and even moreso when in your home territory, companies come to you. It's becoming much the PS2 era again.
We've already got our first few big PS4+Switch announces already, too, so Microsoft has to step in somewhere and make some kind of statement. The status quo stinks and just putting out new hardware doesn't really expand your audience by itself. We'll have to see how well the marketing strategy of pushing raw power works, too.
We've already got our first few big PS4+Switch announces already, too, so Microsoft has to step in somewhere and make some kind of statement. The status quo stinks and just putting out new hardware doesn't really expand your audience by itself. We'll have to see how well the marketing strategy of pushing raw power works, too.
That's all well and good! It's true of millions of people. What's fine for you doesn't translate to boosting business overall, though. Sony has snatched marketshare and mindshare, and the betting big on horsepower is risky.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Just as I thought. Not a single game.
You forgot the edit for that quote that came in after:
"Every new title published from Microsoft Studios that we showed onstage at E3 this year will support Xbox Play Anywhere and will be easily accessible in the Windows Store."
http://windowsreport.com/not-all-new-xbox-games-come-to-windows-10/
This is also BEFORE Phil confirmed THIS YEAR that not all Xbox games will be on PC.
So you can't dispute the facts? Just as we thought. Wanna try again?
Pretty sure Switch has more. 3DS as well by its very nature has a ton of exclusives.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
Switch? Stop lol
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I'm still waiting for you to name me one game. Should be easy to do with all of your "facts".
You've got nothing.
So..........do we have any titles they are publishing not coming to PC that hasn't already been announced?
So when you are ready to provide a source proving that Microsoft is wrong or lied in February this year, we will be here waiting. I am guessing I will need an extra cup of coffee or two while we wait.
No clue. You would have to ask MS.
These are all xbox play anywhere titles......which is all the exclusives every has in their list. Cuphead also is on windows
So, enjoy your coffee until we get something thats not available on both thats in their big list of exclusives
https://www.finder.com.au/microsoft-pc-games-e3-2017
Thanks for providing us with a list of titles we already know are on both platforms. We have known that for a long time now.
Now supply us with a source that states MS lied or was wrong in February of 2017 that they are "gonna have games for console only".
Gonna get a third cup for this one, and one for you too.
WordsintheWater
Member
Can you provide evidence to this statement you made?
Because honestly that has got to be the most misinformed post in this whole thread which is a feat in itself.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
You probably got a point.
Still think it is funny dude yelling at the top of his lounges "ps4 has more exclusives than anyone else just ignore Xbox exclusives because they are also on PC and ignore mobile lol who has one and ignore PC because that isn't fair and I like my uncharted more than that Nintendo shit that scores and sells way more!!"
Smh
what in the honest fuck are you arguing......I have been stating that all their games are on PC as well. Where did I ever mention they were going to be on console only
How does one provide evidence to an opinion? Because honestly, that would be the first time I have ever heard of such a thing, which brings this to a whole new feat.