Who says knee jerk? This would be a simple firmware change.
I agree on that just wanted to point out just because is a "Positive" Xbox thread that doesn't mean people can't have different opinions.
Have all the opinions about the subject that you want. Positive or negative. About the subject. If you want to cry about XBL pricing, this isn't the subject for that.
Ehh... the thread is about MS stance in their services and is a broad topic so expect a lot of derailing, like right now lol... but yeah I don't support trolling either.And you're aware that we have message subjects for a reason, right? If you want to cry about XBL, create a thread. I'm sure it'll get lots of responses. I'll contribute to it. This thread's subject isn't about XBL pricing, or Microsoft "definitely raising the price of XBL next gen". It's not about having different opinions. It's about being intelligent enough to know where to put that opinion.
I can't disagree with you.It's all well having opinions, i don't get why people who've said they've no interest in the next Xbox insist on spending all thier time in MS threads saying the same old comments.
It's like how many times do they need to say Live is shit? We get it, they don't like it or MS, but other people do.
It's strange that there are no Microsoft studio game leaks yet.
Ehh... the thread is about MS stance in their services and is a broad topic so expect a lot of derailing, like right now lol... but yeah I don't support trolling either.
I can't disagree with you.
It's strange that there are no Microsoft studio game leaks yet.
Ehh... the thread is about MS stance in their services and is a broad topic so expect a lot of derailing, like right now lol... but yeah I don't support trolling either.
you know it was forum rage that started that right?
the whole ms is acting like undercover agents this time...i never seen something like this before
for any console
It's strange that there are no Microsoft studio game leaks yet.
The forum rage about rumors is irrelevant. The headlines saying a Microsoft employee was speaking on said rumors is where the problem comes.
Why? People hate the idea of an always on connection. Those people aren't suddenly wrong just because it's (supposedly) not happening.
Ehh... the thread is about MS stance in their services and is a broad topic so expect a lot of derailing, like right now lol... but yeah I don't support trolling either.
It's strange that there are no Microsoft studio game leaks yet.
and it started here on gaf. So saying MS doesn't pay attention to forums is wrong in fact as well as in spirit.
It's actually just about Microsoft letting their own employees know that when it comes to movie watching and single-player games, that they're not forcing an always-on connection. Got nothing to do with XBL/Services.
They are wrong for being so certain that it was going to happen.
I love how negative rumours about Microsoft are taken as truth quickly, but any good rumour has a lot of people trying to debunk them uber-fast lol
E3 is going to be a graveyard.
Design/Plans change over time. There is no reason to believe that they did not initially (at least consider) the always online plans. It obviously was not going to be successful, however that did not stop Sony from making a all digital version of the PSP.
Down the line we could see an always online version of the console..... which actually is likely to be the "subsidized" model of the Nextbox.... that has to check (at least monthly) that the subscription has been paid. Otherwise you get a brick until you pay your dues.
Sounds like the rumored 360 Mini, which also may have been the source of the Edge/Kotaku rumors.
That's a universal thing. It happens in Xbox threads, Molyneux/Kojima/Cage threads, WiiU threads etc.It's all well having opinions, i don't get why people who've said they've no interest in the next Xbox insist on spending all thier time in MS threads saying the same old comments.
It's like how many times do they need to say Live is shit? We get it, they don't like it or MS, but other people do.
and it started here on gaf. So saying MS doesn't pay attention to forums is wrong in fact as well as in spirit.
Very entertaining though.
well this is awesome news indeed, but I wouldn't be surprised if up until a few months ago MS had the intentions of implementing the always online function but saw the consumer backlash and decided to kibosh the whole thing all together.
u understand that there r 40 millions of ppl that u r drawing like perfect idiots right?
u understand that ms as a company and not a charity mission....is there to make money..and xbl made it while psn....is being pretty much a loss for sony ...till psn+?
u know that if u love cinema and u cant use netflix (coz theres isnt in your country) the only possibility to watch decent (no pirated streaming) on a console is on xbox?
stop with this boring thing about xbl
ppl know what they r paying for.....they arent idiots and if they do ..theres something that they like
i got bot console ps3 and xbox...and i pay for xbl coz i can use it for cubovision and mediaset premium....
How can you say this? what led you to believe such a thing?
It's weird to me that Ars is even involved. I've always put them in a class way way above the gaming "journalists". Didn't think they did much reporting on gaming.
This thread proved some people need a break from Gaming side for a little bit. Some of the back and forth on here between the 2 sides...and the witch hunt going on is scary.
That said, glad that it was cleared up. Well see how it all goes on the 21st.
Same here.
well this is awesome news indeed, but I wouldn't be surprised if up until a few months ago MS had the intentions of implementing the always online function but saw the consumer backlash and decided to kibosh the whole thing all together.
?? Ars Technica is just like 99% of other conglomerate owned sites that depend on advertising to make money. They were pretty good pre-sellout tho.
It hurt Kojima the most, the downgrade from TGS 2005 trailer to E3 2006 trailer was massive. Kojima had to abandon his vision for the game thnx to that downgrade. No wonder why Sony didn't work with nvidia on Vita or PS4.
I think they conned Microsoft too with the Xbox GPU.
If Internet isn't required for games then how will they enforce their 2 year sub plan for the $299 model?
If Internet isn't required for games then how will they enforce their 2 year sub plan for the $299 model?
Name a website that doesn't rely on advertising money and doesn't use a sub model. The point is they don't go out of their way to start unfounded gaming rumors for clicks.?? Ars Technica is just like 99% of other conglomerate owned sites that depend on advertising to make money. They were pretty good pre-sellout tho.
When was this memo dated?
So wait... Microsoft sends an internal e-mail to...People working on the new Xbox...
To tell them that it works without a connection...
Shouldn't they know this if they've been working on the damn thing?
What the heck is this?