Microsoft: Next Xbox will work even when your Internet doesnt
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So you have no idea what you're talking about. Got it.
Baconsammy
Banned
Have all the opinions about the subject that you want. Positive or negative. About the subject. If you want to cry about XBL pricing, this isn't the subject for that.
Syphon Filter
Member
It's strange that there are no Microsoft studio game leaks yet.
Ehh... the thread is about MS stance in their services and is a broad topic so expect a lot of derailing, like right now lol... but yeah I don't support trolling either.
I can't disagree with you.
Edit: BTW I don't own an Xbox 360 either and I don't support MS stance about charging for online play but I'm definitely interested in buying the next Xbox specially if the rumors about the Respawn game being exclusive are true.
There are no games in development.... kidding. Seriously though. With the news of the "6 month delay" and some studios only recently starting to develop games for the Nextbox is a bit disconcerting.
I'm sure they have a couple games that will be quality launch titles, which is more than the Wii u seemed to have at launch. Hopefully their "Launch Window" won't be 12~ months like Nintendo's. Same for Sony.... Launch window is first 6 months IMO.
Get out of here with that constructive criticism. I got all 3 consoles this gen, and might get all 3 next gen (pending Wii-u pricing, and weather Microsoft gets their head out of their butts) Very few people want to see a console outright fail. It is bad for the industry as a whole. Exclusive titles start bankrupting companies if they are on consoles that don't succeed. (assuming there are not huge kick backs for making the game(s) exclusive)
the whole ms is acting like undercover agents this time...i never seen something like this before
for any console
whats wrong with letting the mods deal with thread shitting?
Better then thread cops like Baconsammy shitting on posters.
anyway, yeah, enough with ot stuff.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
The forum rage about rumors is irrelevant. The headlines saying a Microsoft employee was speaking on said rumors is where the problem comes. Now you've added legitimacy where there may be none because of affiliation.
XtremeXpider
Member
Wii U? =P
Aquamarine
Member
MS is keeping an extremely tight reign over development.
But you can obviously bet on Halo 5 and Forza 5 as being in the works for Durango as we speak. I imagine both of those will have very high production values.
Grimhammer
Neo Member
I think of all the past and current things MS has done to generate profit....and got me thinking.
What if MS themselves leaked the always online with the backlash known to be the result. Then they leak that it's always online will work offline.....with details like initial online verification and unlock costs to play used games....a ruse to get us to be all happy with the steam system of verifying new games?
I'm saying...the best predictor of douchy buisness practices is last indicators.
What if MS themselves leaked the always online with the backlash known to be the result. Then they leak that it's always online will work offline.....with details like initial online verification and unlock costs to play used games....a ruse to get us to be all happy with the steam system of verifying new games?
I'm saying...the best predictor of douchy buisness practices is last indicators.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
I'm guessing that "Always On, Always Online" was a marketing term that spiraled out of control, probably with the help of dev kits requiring internet access to operate (so MS could monitor them).
MS has kept a pretty tight lid on nearly everything related to Durango, even forbidding devs from announcing games, so it makes sense to have everyone on the same page ad they enter the home stretch before the big reveal.
MS has kept a pretty tight lid on nearly everything related to Durango, even forbidding devs from announcing games, so it makes sense to have everyone on the same page ad they enter the home stretch before the big reveal.
and it started here on gaf. So saying MS doesn't pay attention to forums is wrong in fact as well as in spirit.
rudieboy77
Member
They are wrong for being so certain that it was going to happen.
Baconsammy
Banned
It's actually just about Microsoft letting their own employees know that when it comes to movie watching and single-player games, that they're not forcing an always-on connection. Got nothing to do with XBL/Services.
I kinda figured there wouldn't be that many leaks and if there were any it would be in a more controlled fashion. If Microsoft has perfected anything across it's company in the last 5 years, it's locking down everything pertaining to a project. Hell, they beefed up security at the Xbox division last year in Redmond as what must have been a full steam ahead push internally.
Without a doubt Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo all have people who are on sites daily seeing what the gaming community if buzzing about each day. They have to watch trends, it would be stupid not to. How they react to the vocal minority though is entirely different. I think Nintendo have their heads so far up their asses that they can't hear everyone yelling at them. Microsoft is currently in a state where it's "the system isn't public so don't respond or else" and Sony is patiently waiting for Microsoft, while slowly feeding us info.
It's actually just about a rumor, the one about an Ars employee having some source who fed him an "internal e-mail" that states those points.
Design/Plans change over time. There is no reason to believe that they did not initially (at least consider) the always online plans. It obviously was not going to be successful, however that did not stop Sony from making a all digital version of the PSP.
Down the line we could see an always online version of the console..... which actually is likely to be the "subsidized" model of the Nextbox.... that has to check (at least monthly) that the subscription has been paid. Otherwise you get a brick until you pay your dues.
Arc Christelle
Member
With their precious tears I shall make the finest salt imaginable.
Baconsammy
Banned
Sounds like the rumored 360 Mini, which also may have been the source of the Edge/Kotaku rumors.
I don't doubt that as it is a "all digital box", however I still think it (should) have offline. I can see it (like the Subsidized Nextbox) contacting Microsoft on a weekly~ basis. The Subsidized Nextbox will have monthly fees. They need a way to "persuade" people to pay their fees each month when they get a $200~ deduction at initial purchase.
dragonbane
Member
That's a universal thing. It happens in Xbox threads, Molyneux/Kojima/Cage threads, WiiU threads etc.
People just can't help themselves.
flyinpiranha
Member
I won't say with conviction that nobody at MS pays attention to GAF, but that story picked up traction and was everywhere so the visibility was beyond GAF. If it held to just GAF then I doubt anything would have came from it.
Yeah many laughs so far, only starting with your post. Many more to go I'm sure.
How can you say this? what led you to believe such a thing?
Please don't take it the wrong way but man, slow down, capitalize your sentences and stop throwing periods around like confetti, one is enough. Your english is fine but your posts are really grating to read, people will take you more seriously if you don't write like a 13 year old on gaiaonline.
I dunno, a hunch maybe. Up and till this point there was some pretty damning "evidence" that pointed to MS using an always online feature.
Same here.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Why people do/act like this is the more interesting aspect. I never understood the determination myself even as a kid and I suspect some are between 20-40, if people didnt reply to it quite a few would stop imo
?? Ars Technica is just like 99% of other conglomerate owned sites that depend on advertising to make money. They were pretty good pre-sellout tho.
Good lord. I have a feeling we'll never hear the end of this from some people, even after the console is out.
mohsinkhan
Member
Man we need a blurry cell phone pic to get my hype through the roof.
XtremeXpider
Member
Just like Edge or Kotaku, no? Why people believe Edge of Kotaku like if they can't be wrong sometimes (their sources).?
There was another dev whom stated they were "sort of" happy with PS3 but also said, it wasn't what they were told.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Didn't they do something similar with 360?
Stripper13
Member
Just had a chance to read through the OP and most of the thread - Assuming this pans out to be true... there has to be one mega-crow-eating thread.
I've been saying for ages that it was foolish to believe that Microsoft was going to give up marketshare and whatever else, to go for an always online system.
It's a laugh though - so many people adamant that MS were going for this. Now the rumour sites can just say 'old rumour', 'change of policy', 'new information has come to light' etc. No sweat off their back.
I look forward to a significant number of people assuming that forum rage somehow made Microsoft make a huge change to it's console/living-room device plans - when it's more likely that someone somewhere, misconstrued the concept of 'always on' - or even the '3rd Parties can force online' concept.
I've been saying for ages that it was foolish to believe that Microsoft was going to give up marketshare and whatever else, to go for an always online system.
It's a laugh though - so many people adamant that MS were going for this. Now the rumour sites can just say 'old rumour', 'change of policy', 'new information has come to light' etc. No sweat off their back.
I look forward to a significant number of people assuming that forum rage somehow made Microsoft make a huge change to it's console/living-room device plans - when it's more likely that someone somewhere, misconstrued the concept of 'always on' - or even the '3rd Parties can force online' concept.
Baconsammy
Banned
Same way they enforce it now with the 360 most likely. If you don't take it online at least once a month, it stops functioning.
Name a website that doesn't rely on advertising money and doesn't use a sub model. The point is they don't go out of their way to start unfounded gaming rumors for clicks.
MinnesotaFatz
Member
I can't rage to this.
Willy Wanka
my god this avatar owns
I'll be waiting for official confirmation before getting excited. I still think games will require people to sign in once every 30 days like Steam's offline mode but hopefully not.