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[Bernardougf]

They (MS) probably assumed the take up would be like their other subscription services, Office 365 and the like.

The plan was to attract more players to their ecosystem... the problem is the stupidity of doing the same thing on PC!!! Ill never understand the strategy of working one market (console hardware) and selling products to competition (PC) ... I know PC is windows but if you want to sell your hardware how do you do this ??? ...and of course has the problem of this type of business (gamepass) changing the way your players approach buying games and how your devs approach doing games.

 

[Bernoulli]

 

[BlueLyria]

Nothing is official yet. This could just be a typo or a misunderstanding.

Wait till next week where they'll be official confirmation.

If it helps, I actually now think Microsoft is going full third-party.

Take it easy.

Yeah, a "typo", sure.

I'm just used to having 3 console manufacturers every generation so now the thought of only 2 on the upcoming gen is kinda weird

 

[M1chl]

GamePass day 1 games, that would suck.

Like why even have that convention which was in January? Makes no sense, MS again with no plan-

 

[GHG]

GamePass day 1 games, that would suck.

Like why even have that convention which was in January? Makes no sense, MS again with no plan-

At some point money starts to matter.

Especially when $80+ billion has been spent and there are still ongoing legal fees.

 

[DJ12]

GamePass day 1 games, that would suck.

Like why even have that convention which was in January? Makes no sense, MS again with no plan-

There's a plan clearly, what there isn't is the communication to the fan base that should've happened prior to any of this happening.

 

[Ar¢tos]

I guess my plan to get a cheap used XSS for Fable is no longer needed.

 

[adamsapple]

Well...seems like this can be closed.

Waybackmachine has the Avowed page like that since November last year.

I hate twitter sometimes...

Maybe don't rush to make topics based on random tweets ?

 

[Hohenheim]

This is all I care about getting clarified, don't really care about the rest.

If they stop with the day 1 (1st party) GamePass thing I don't think I'll bother with them anymore.

Agree. If day 1 on GP is a thing of the past (which I highly doubt), i'll rather get their games on Steam after my sub expires in a couple of years. No worries.
If that's what they need to do in order to get great games out and keep going, then fine for me.
I don't really care too much about these subscriptions as long as good games comes out.
Just get me that new Fable game asap!

 

[GHG]

Maybe don't rush to make topics based on random tweets ?

Why didn't you inform us of these changes back in November then?

 

[transformer]

Microsoft just too big. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

How can someone approve changes like this when there has been no official statements - it beggars belief.

It's actually a strategy in some cases. Subtle "not really a leak" but sort of a leak. It could be setting the stage for an announcement so it's not a complete surprise. Of course this is speculation on my part, but this would fit that kind of strategy perfectly.

 

[M1chl]

At some point money starts to matter.

Especially when $80+ billion has been spent and there are still ongoing legal fees.

True.

Granted if games will be of quality of Starfield, then it does not even matter. I just hope that those smaller games will still pour to gamepass, because it helped me to find few of really good games, which I wouldn't play otherwise.

 

[Barlow]

Zuby and Console Wars
*Shocked*

 

[RoboFu]

Those were apparently switched last year so I doubt it has anything to do with what's going on now. Maybe though.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

Let's just wait and see. It would be hilarious if it was just a branding change and them mentioning bringing some games to other platforms.

 

[Hydrargyrus]

It's like seeing pimple squeezing. There's something morbidly attractive.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Maybe don't rush to make topics based on random tweets ?

You sound nervous. How's your week going so far?

 

[digoutyoursoul]

It's like seeing pimple squeezing. There's something morbidly attractive.

I dread to think what your browser bookmarks are

 

[SmokedMeat]

The logos gave the impression that they were console only imo. The change looks better.

Having a Join Game Pass button directly on the Game's picture tells me they're still day one on GP. Maybe that will change with future versions , but for now this is just trying to stir more drama.

 

[adamsapple]

You sound nervous. How's your week going so far?

Pretty good, aside from the covid. Haven't made a rushed thread this week.

The logos gave the impression that they were console only imo. The change looks better.

Having a Join Game Pass button directly on the Game's picture tells me they're still day one on GP. Maybe that will change with future versions , but for now this is just trying to stir more drama.

OP himself discovered the changes have been there since October / November shortly after making this topic.

 

[Sanepar]

It would be a dream if gamepass is finally over.

 

[TommyCronin6969]

Phil could take a shit in a toilet and people on twitter would look for clues in the ripples at the moment of impact

 

[LordCBH]

Pretty good, aside from the covid.

Get well soon bruh.

 

[fersnake]

 

[Spyxos]

Fuck it is happening, no more day 1 games....

 

[geary]

Maybe don't rush to make topics based on random tweets ?

This is Gaf on random tweets...

 

[Spyxos]

Well...seems like this can be closed.

Waybackmachine has the Avowed page like that since November last year.

I hate twitter sometimes...

lol

 

[Rentahamster]

 

[Astray]

Phil's business update next week will result in a shitshow, innit?

I'm watching that shit live. It's almost assured to be part of video game history.

 

[Warnen]

 

[Draugoth]

 

[Deleted member 1159]

This is all I care about getting clarified, don't really care about the rest.

If they stop with the day 1 (1st party) GamePass thing I don't think I'll bother with them anymore.

Yeah, that's the whole appeal of GamePass for me. Starfield day one saved me from wasting $70 on it because I hated it hah

 

[midnightAI]

Just to dowse the flames 'slightly', this could be because they are about to announce a new console ( an all digital Series X perhaps, maybe Series Y to differentiate it)

 

[Three]

Those were apparently switched last year so I doubt it has anything to do with what's going on now. Maybe though.

Agreed, who knows, still up in the air. The rumours originate from fall last year. SneakerSO's posts are from mid Dec so it's not out of the ordinary if internally those were already being changed in Nov.

RUMOR: Leaker Kepler thinks the next Xbox is coming sooner than 2028

I could see a new Xbox coming out along side GTA6 or just after GTA6 hits the market.

www.neogaf.com

 

[ANDS]

Massive skeptic when this rumor started but how else would one view this? I suppose there's another option that we're not seeing, but it doesn't feel likely; sometimes the most obvious answer is the correct one.

 

[Nankatsu]

 

[SenkiDala]

Why didn't you inform us of these changes back in November then?

Because there's nothing to say ?

Jesus the "wolf pack" against every move from MS is not only funny, they're also pathetic.

 

[DryvBy]

They threw the towel after Starfield failure to move xbox units and gamepass.

This doesn't mean MS will abandon hardware, but they won't seek console exclusivity anymore. It's not worth It.

Sounds right. Because not exiting hardware when you have 0 games is the dumbest move a console maker could do. And they make some stupid moves.

 

[Evil Calvin]

So coming to Game Pass but not day one? What? Sell full price for a while and then put on Game Pass?

 

[Evil Calvin]

MS and Xbox has been a shit show. Acquires dozens of studios and little to no output. Heck....even Bethesda, ID and Machine Games only released one AAA since the acquisition 3 years or so ago (Starfield). No Doom. No Wolfenstein....... I think MS is paying these studios to not put out games.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Can somebody confirm that this guy is ok?

 

[nemiroff]

But I agree it's fun and part of what we have forums for in the first place. The amount however.. It's staggering.. I mean, gaf is basically out of order these days, lol

 

[Shambala]

 

[CherryFalls]

 

[adamsapple]

So coming to Game Pass but not day one? What? Sell full price for a while and then put on Game Pass?

I know people on GAF don't usually like reading past the topic title, and Tiago Rodrigues is not going to edit his OP, but that change has been there since October. Forza launched on game pass with that template.

Avowed is on game pass day 1.

 

[Gambit2483]

They are about to do another tier restructure for Gamepass.

You want Day 1? You pay that premium you cheap bitches. Watch.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Some people are really desperate to stir some twitter drama. MS isn't going to make Game Pass significantly worse for existing Ultimate users. That would mean the end of the sub.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Holy fuck lol.

Selling their games on PS and Nintendo was already pretty extreme IMO.

Nerfing game pass to death will absolutely kill their remaining fans. I'm shocked if they do this. The Xbox console would become a paper weight at that point.

Edit - game pass logo is still there just above the game card, just doesn't say day 1 I suppose.

Posted these yesterday in the main thread.

So I thought a bit more about this and came to the conclusion that they may be announcing lots of big changes to Game Pass in this event.

Think about it: they are in this mess because of Game Pass. And because it has cannibalized their software sales on Xbox, they are looking to port their games on PS5 and Switch so they could sell enough to get a positive ROI.

If they only port their games, it means they recover some of that development costs. But then how will that QoQ growth come?

Porting is for increasing revenue. But what is their path for reducing expenses - which Amy Hood also hinted at last month? Until they fix this Game Pass situation, they'd always be in this vicious loop.

So I think 3 things are coming in this event, which is why it's taking longer:

1. Multiplatform games announcement on PS and Switch
2. Big changes to how Game Pass works (day 1 releases, pricing, COD on GP, and/or new tiers, etc.)
3. Handheld Xbox to promote Game Pass and xCloud

Yeah, and another hint (which we all missed) that they are going to devalue Game Pass is Satya Nadella removing Game Pass from his bonus KPIs a few months ago.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

I don't think this means anything. I think we're looking for random things because we've been given no real information... kind of why waiting til next week was a bad choice for Microsoft.

That being said, I don't think GamePass Day 1 is sustainable for Microsoft as a largely 3rd party publisher.

I think we'll shortly stop seeing non-Microsoft games as part of GamePass and as a result it WILL come to PlayStation, just like EA Play.

I think you'll get catalog titles for Xbox + ABK + Bethesda and then maybe a more expensive tier like EA Play Pro for Day 1 releases.

I think Microsoft will still push for GamePass on Xbox as well as long as Xbox exists, but the days are numbered there. You might see some indie titles on GamePass for Xbox, but not for PlayStation.

In fact the reason they're waiting until next week may be to announce this jointly with Sony, but whatever that's a stretch.

 

[balls of snow]

My sub ends on in August. Wonder if Hellblade 2 will be the final day 1 gamepass game ever.