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[Rodhull]

iunno, the guy he was "trolling with" seems to agree that they do it all the time back n fourth

but it was pretty stupid either way to be doing that....

Yeah about the city part. He doesn't think he was trolling about the rest of it and even said so in earlier tweets to Jim Sterling.

 

[Proxy]

iunno, the guy he was "trolling with" seems to agree that they do it all the time back n fourth
http://i.imgur.com/Na2Xkh0.png

but it was pretty stupid either way to be doing that....

Even if he was trolling his friend with that cities comment, his earlier tweets had nothing to do with his friend and that is what the controversy is about.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

What? I can still play games offline without Playstation Plus and am not even required to be a member to play games online should I choose to. But it sure is nice to actually be given something for being a member.

Not only that but I've not fired up any of the Capcom titles that requires you to be connected online to play it, or any game that has a 24 hour lock.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

My guess is their market research showed that broadband subscriptions coupled with online consumer purchasing habits have probably outweighed the loss of consumers with spotty connections. Maybe they have a number that shows what purchasing habits the users without connection to broadband have.

I don't like the decision, it's one that will eventually happen, but I don't think we're ready for it here in the US. I can't speak for broadband consumer base in other countries.

Thing is they aren't going to make this choice if their research says there won't be a big payoff for it. Businesses sometimes take risks, but there's usually a pretty solid backbone of reasons why they'd make a big change like this. I'm sure the money they would lose by people upset by this choice enough to not buy their new system will be outweighed by what they get in return, and if not, well we'll see.

 

[Omegasquash]

iunno, the guy he was "trolling with" seems to agree that they do it all the time back n fourth

but it was pretty stupid either way to be doing that....

This being the case, let's take it at face value.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Just had a thought.....

How is always on any different than PS+? Is anyone upset about that? As soon as you are not paid up, you can't play the game right? Isn't this the same thing?

Love the discussion on this any way you look at it, it sure is going to be interesting

*gets popcorn*

I have little tolerance for blatantly ignorant posts. You must be looking to get banned.

You have no relevant ground to hold up your ignorant post.

 

[A Sentient Keyboard]

That fucking gif

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

iunno, the guy he was "trolling with" seems to agree that they do it all the time back n fourth

but it was pretty stupid either way to be doing that....

He was trolling his friend about the living in real cities thing. He wasn't trolling with his initial dumb tweets defending always on systems.

 

[LittleJohnny]

Because you can still buy games away from PS+ and play them offline on the PS3?

I don't have PS+ to confirm, but I'm pretty sure that even free PS+ games continue to work if the internet connection is dropped.

Again how is this different from MS'? I believe a connection is only needed initially, likely to fend off piracy, probably no different than Steam.

 

[GremlinFool]

I also want to reflect on apologists earlier in this thread who claimed this Adam guy shouldn't be fired. He absolutely should be fired without compunction. He is personally responsible for MILLIONS of damage in negative publicity to Microsoft and should be held accountable. That's how the real world works. Period.

 

[Order]

Just had a thought.....

How is always on any different than PS+? Is anyone upset about that? As soon as you are not paid up, you can't play the game right? Isn't this the same thing?

Love the discussion on this any way you look at it, it sure is going to be interesting

*gets popcorn*

This thread...I can't

 

[AJ_Wings]

Holy shit! LOL

Why did I miss this thread for so long?!

 

[Uno Venova]

i wonder is some of his reasoning is probably how most of the higher ups feel, that people will just get with the times and buy broadband to use the next Xbox.

 

[toastyToast]

Holy shit at this thread. The way it blew up, God damn. The reveal is going to cause the GAF servers to melt

 

[I'm an expert]

Just had a thought.....

How is always on any different than PS+? Is anyone upset about that? As soon as you are not paid up, you can't play the game right? Isn't this the same thing?

Love the discussion on this any way you look at it, it sure is going to be interesting

*gets popcorn*

Are..you being serious? Have you been living through the last 5 years with us? Do you know anything about subscription based services? Do you know anything about always online drm?

 

[reddwarf42]

I think MicroSoft will probably write this off as the "vocal minority". The casual core gamers will probably accept this without much push back.

 

[Sorral]

iunno, the guy he was "trolling with" seems to agree that they do it all the time back n fourth

but it was pretty stupid either way to be doing that....

That doesn't really work because he already tweeted these without them being directed at anyone:

 

[Step]

You're not allowed to think anymore.

To be fair, did he really think the first time while posting that?

I'll never understand how you do it everytime haha.

 

[Raven77]

Again how is this different from MS'?

Did you read the recent rumors?

After 3 minutes of no connection, you are kicked from the game with your state saved. Sure its a rumor, but this guy basically confirmed it to be true.

 

[Pyramid head]

Just had a thought.....

How is always on any different than PS+? Is anyone upset about that? As soon as you are not paid up, you can't play the game right? Isn't this the same thing?

Love the discussion on this any way you look at it, it sure is going to be interesting

*gets popcorn*

One allows you to play the free games it gives even if your internet goes down, the other doesn't.

Also, free games.

 

[RPGamer92]

1. Dat Sunhi gif.
2. Even if the guy claims he was just trolling, it still shows that MS has at the very least, considered always online for Durango.

 

[Resistance100]

fantastic

 

[Crimson_Gold]

Again how is this different from MS'?

If the always online rumor proves to be true, you will hae 3 minutes to reconnect or you'll be booted from the game or app that you are using.

 

[VeryGooster]

Surprise!

Not all of us want to wait for a regurgitated press release, Arthur.

 

[Twilight Princess]

Its not about always on, its about them taking away our FREEDOM.

 

[Mindwipe]

God tier.

 

[ironcreed]

iunno, the guy he was "trolling with" seems to agree that they do it all the time back n fourth

but it was pretty stupid either way to be doing that....

Sure, he meant no offense in making jokes about small towns and rural areas, but that is hardly what all the fuss is over. The always online thing still persists and even a developer all but confirmed it last night. That is what is causing the shit storm, and rightfully so.

 

[Crimsonlink]

Man this is Pre-E3, I can't wait for Post E3 lol.

If Microsoft doesn't reveal anything this month and smooth things over about the next box they put out I'll be very shocked.

 

[Omegasquash]

Again how is this different from MS'?

The rumor is that the Durango will kick you if your connection is down for more than three minutes, and will not start at all if your connection isn't on.

 

[Punkster_NY]

 

[AranhaHunter]

If the gaming side of the Internet was a barometer of sales, the Wii would have tanked, and iPad sales would be in the toilet.

It's cute how all the pirates are upset about "always online", though. Oh, not a pirate, just don't have a stable Internet connection? Go buy a Wii U. Nintendo has your back.

So we're all pirates? Nice.

 

[semiconscious]

Losing is putting it mildly. These rumors or 'leaks' have been steadily building like tremors on unstable ground before a violent eruption...

if this really is their game plan, yes, this's a bad thing for ms. the idea was to announce & fabricate/spin the 'positive narrative' (interactivity! convenience!) all at once. that this 'dark narrative' has risen up & gained a life of its own pre-emptively should, if it doesn't, trouble them a bit...

&, if this really isn't their game plan, they should simply fucking say so, & clear the air. whatever 'strategic' benefit they might've seen at one point in not doing so (& what that could've been i have no idea whatsoever) i'd say has been kinda superseded at this point by recent developments ...

 

[Foffy]

Oh man, I don't know if it's exclusively linked to this, but it seems #DealWithIt is currently a trending topic on Twitter.

This is exploding, isn't it?

 

[Shard]

See, they would if Always Online DRM did not break, watch Halo 5 bring Xbox Durango Diamond bring the whole service down for weeks on end and shit will get volcanic.

 

[Conan-san]

Well, made my choice to switch well, I see.

Mind you i'm in no rush to make my PS3 obsolete any time soon even after the ps4 comes out.

 

[Minions]

Again how is this different from MS'?

Since there was just an article about no applications or games running after 3 minutes of loss of internet...?

 

[VariantX]

Just had a thought.....

How is always on any different than PS+? Is anyone upset about that? As soon as you are not paid up, you can't play the game right? Isn't this the same thing?

Love the discussion on this any way you look at it, it sure is going to be interesting

*gets popcorn*

That's called a subscription service. What people are upset about are potentially having to be online to use a system they already OWN. This causes a problem with people who do not have a reliable internet connection, have one at all, and have to deal with bandwidth caps. Do you have to connect via internet every time you put your key in the ignition switch just so you can drive the vehicle you already paid for?

 

[maltrain]

Is this quite a major Japanese gaming news site?
Added 3DJuegos. Meristation won't load for me. Are there other major Spanish sites?

Vandal: Microsoft Game Studios' director defends "always on" games (spanish)
Meristation: Bullying to a Microsoft's executive for supporting "always on" in Xbox (spanish)
3D Juegos: Microsoft's creative defends "always on" obligation: "Electricity goes out too" (spanish)
Ludoqia: New Xbox still confirm mandatory "always on" (spanish)
ZonaRed: Microsoft's creative director defends "always on" in consoles (spanish)
HobbyConsolas: Xbox720 and the "always on" (spanish)
TeknoConsolas: Microsoft bet to the internet connection without measuring their words (spanish)
Niubie: Microsoft's creative director defends "always on" policy (spanish)

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Again how is this different from MS'?

Ok, I'm completely confused. You have been reading this thread I assume? If not, read the OP and you'll get your answer.

 

[Plinko]

Andddd there we go. Didn't take long to discredit positive news. And why exactly would he admit to trolling if he think what he said was true? No one will do that if those are their plans.

Because he wants to save his job? What would be worse--trolling or telling people about a feature that will do nothing but cause bad publicity for the company?

If I'm the leader of a company, I want is released at a time where we officially respond to it. You know year won't so that here. All his comments have done is brought horrible publicity,

 

[Fistwell]

Is this quite a major Japanese gaming news site?
Added 3DJuegos. Meristation won't load for me. Are there other major Spanish sites?

I mean, who cares about the french, right? But here is jeuxvideo.fr.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

That WiiU part made me lose it lol. The whole thing is good but the WiiU part was a great finisher.

 

[Crimson_Gold]

So we're all pirates? Nice.

We can be if we play AC4

 

[Persona86]

Demolition Man will become a reality.

 

[Hyun Sai]

This man is a genius, a hero, a god.

 

[BloodMoney]

This isn't about that town per se, it represents towns all across the country that can't sustain 'always online'.

My point was that Blacksburg is not a good example of an "unconnected" town, because it has a very advanced net infrastructure... i understand what Orth intended, he simply used a bad example to support his slant against rural locals.

 

[legacyzero]

Sunhi sweeps gaming side once again.

 

[JCreasy]

Diablo 3 seriously burned me out on the always online deal. I won't get the Durango if it's online only.

See this is why this strategy is poison for Microsoft.

Consumers have been EDUCATED on how terrible always-online drm can be - Diablo 3 and Sim City. Those were high profile fuck ups.

And Microsoft wants to launch a console with this?

I wonder is Ortho's tweets were a result of a manic bi-polar episode. That brazen careless tone he leads with is almost fatalistic.

 

[ShroudOfFate]

This thread has become a goldmine for the shit post twitter account lol

That bane.gif is the greatest thing ever.

 

[Jezbollah]

Early contender for Gif of the Year.