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Microsoft Studios' creative director has some choice words about always-online
- Thread starter shinobi602
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BadAss2961
Member
The thing is that everyone working for Microsoft is really fucking smart. That makes it so they think they are the only smart people, and not likely to listen to dissenting opinions.
One example was the transition from Office 2003 to 2007. Lots of people had a lot of trouble with the new boxes interface, but since Microsoft people were able to get it, they thought everyone else would have no trouble using the new interface. They were defending it from devs from other companies by saying it was the best and if you didn't get it you were wrong.
DING DING DING. We have a winner!!!
well nobody knows the reason because they didn't announce the console yet. We don't know the features yet
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Eh, I'll wait for the official announcement. It just sounds too stupid to be true. If the current rumor is to be believed, I'll have 3 minutes from the from time I first boot up my 720 to register to live before it turns itself off again. Just sounds goofy to me.
toddhunter
Member
The PS4 might not need internet, but COD might.
Duckhuntdog
Member
I jump between GAF and EvlAva and found this post.
http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2200505&postcount=46
Granted it's some random person who claims to be a dev, and that wink at the end... so.
http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2200505&postcount=46
Granted it's some random person who claims to be a dev, and that wink at the end... so.
Not to defend Microsoft if they end up going with this, which hasn't yet been confirmed by the way.
But didn't Sony say that even though the PS4 did not require online all the time to function, that it would be up to each publisher to decide if their game required an always on connection?
But didn't Sony say that even though the PS4 did not require online all the time to function, that it would be up to each publisher to decide if their game required an always on connection?
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Why should it be required to play a single player game? If I want to play Bioshock Infinite, why do I need a constant online connection? I could go with specific games requiring it but not the entire console. You have to remember there's going to be a lot of multiplats so why would the single player PS4 game that's also on the 720 require that game to be constantly online? This is no benefit and only alienates people who either don't have Internet access or for some reason, cannot connect the console itself online. And we don't even need to go into the numerous other reasons most posters here have already brought up.
SirIgbyCeaser
Banned
I don't know how to share meme's images but I made this one. http://qkme.me/3tpl3v
Damn... If true...
shinobi602
Member
Edit: nvm
Dreamgazer
Member
GoofsterStud
Member
Why are we still using COD
How about: Elder Scrolls: Future Single Player RPG
How about: Elder Scrolls: Future Single Player RPG
DeviantBoi
Member
I bet Ballmer is going to flip a chair over this.
Uno Venova
Banned
That was referring to activation codes for second hand games I believe.
BolognaSoup
Member
Correct doing online things requires being online. Playing games offline does not require being online however. I mean...lol.
I think Ballmer is more worried about if the Kings are going to move or not right now.
I didn't know that my iMac stopped working when I lost my internet connection, or that I can't play videos or music stored locally on my ipad when I don't have an internet connection.
Thanks for informing me!
mysteriousmage09
Member
Oh wow ..
HAHA holy shit!
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Then that's the publisher problem.
No, he will drench his entire shirt, pants, and bed in sweat.
Hall of Fame stupidity on display in here.
Cheers, @NeoGAFShitPosts.
Absolutely remarkable.
Will this finally push him into revealing his final form?
Oh wow ..
Well that peaked early.
"Given that legally I cannot confirm or deny if this information is true, nor can I comment on rumor or speculation, all I can say is be sure to get a PS4 instead.Anonymous Developer said:Given that legally I cannot confirm or deny if this information is true, nor can I comment on rumor or speculation, all I can say is be sure to pay your ISP bills.
"Fixed.*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here - It's a systemic issue in organizational behavior.
I would agree, looking at his post history. I think this thread just got more interesting.
I think the post shows a complete close mindedness, looking at how they and the people around him play, oblivious to how other people in other parts of the world play. When I was at halls the internet had a firewall that blocked my console, I had to go back to my parents every few months to download and install updates. Always on means I would of only been able to play my games for a few days every few months. That is not acceptable, I have a console and I have games, assuming I have a TV and electricity, I should be able to play it wherever I damn well please.
shinobi602
Member
Don't give two shits whether this is just a joke and he is not really like that in real life. Do people not understand that if you post shit on your own personal twitter that it is the equivalent of you going out on the public stage and saying those things to a crowd of people? If you want to shoot the shit with friends and stuff you keep everything private. Game developers and people in the enthusiast press seem to not understand this basic concept. People get fired for facebook posts and don't even get hired because of them. Why is twitter seen as different. If you want to troll create a troll account.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Oh wow ..
LOL. Winner.
iMac didn't play games
Hm, interesting. Seems we are hearing this from every angle now, yet absolutely nothing to the contrary.
I think people were criticizing the fact that Microsoft's new console will most likely utilize always-online systems that prevent offline play. I think his other tweets are the reason for the uproar. Without the sarcasm, there is still room for a conversation based on his mocking reaction to the Kotaku article alone.
DimmuBurgerKing
Member
Always on devices are great -- most people, including myself, demand that out any consumer electronics purchase we make these days. What people really don't like is the idea that a choice that you probably would have made anyway has been forced down your throat in a manner that doesn't logically benefit the end user, and provides many possible drawbacks that interfere with your use of the expensive electronics device you bought.
Microsoft needs to very clearly draw a line that connects mandatory always-on to a benefit to the end user that couldn't exist without the restriction. I'll reserve judgment -- but I'm doubtful that they can pull this off. We already know game experiences can be better when we have auto-updating patches, leaderboards, social integration, etc etc. vs. an offline experience.
The argument I can see them trying is something like "developer can design better games when they have a complete data set of what consumers do in their games." That argument will quickly fall flat for 2 reasons: 1) It's speculative and indirect. 2) It's complete bullshit, because developers should already have more than ample data on usage from the 70% of people who are voluntarily connected to extrapolate the whole. Any self-selection bias is likely to be so small as to be irrelevant.
Microsoft needs to very clearly draw a line that connects mandatory always-on to a benefit to the end user that couldn't exist without the restriction. I'll reserve judgment -- but I'm doubtful that they can pull this off. We already know game experiences can be better when we have auto-updating patches, leaderboards, social integration, etc etc. vs. an offline experience.
The argument I can see them trying is something like "developer can design better games when they have a complete data set of what consumers do in their games." That argument will quickly fall flat for 2 reasons: 1) It's speculative and indirect. 2) It's complete bullshit, because developers should already have more than ample data on usage from the 70% of people who are voluntarily connected to extrapolate the whole. Any self-selection bias is likely to be so small as to be irrelevant.
I don't want him to get fired for this. I don't even believe he deserves the insults he has received, but yo can't blame gamers for picking up on this tweet. I would still feel bad if he lost his job. It's not really in our control though.