Microsoft Surface Tablet announced
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There are some diffrences .
The pro kick stand allows it to only be used at a single angle .
The keyboard cases are going to be flimsy compared to a laptop keyboard.
So i doubt you'll be able to use this on your lap well. Although Im sure there will be a more traditional keyboard dock . I bet the first company to put an extra battery in a keyboard to charge the pro while giving a more ridgid base for your lap would make a killing.
I'm going to replace my hp dm3z with dual core 1.6 neo 4 gigs of ram and a hd 3200igp and hd 4330 dedicated.
Shogmaster
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Blame the pixel density/size and the included software.
Take the same S pen and use it on a Tablet PC and it feels fine. The only software on the Note that comes with pressure support is Samsung's note app and it's laggy and abrupt with the ink.
Also when you have 5" screen instead of say 10 or 12" screen, the same 500 lines per inch accuracy is not as good since the 5" LCD has about the same resolution as the 12" LCD (1280x720 and 1280x800).
No I meant it didn't make operation faster with the stylus when I run Photoshop touch on Galaxy Note. Maybe it will be different on a 10" screen but I doubt it. My theory is that stylus can only compliment the keyboard controlling scheme, not replace it.
That's what I want to know. We've never seen windows on arm. So we have no clue what the battery life will be.
Battery life
Price
Hit those and I'm switching.
Switching from what ?
You don't want to switch from a windows laptop to a windows rt device unless you don't care about any of the x86/64 programs working .
googleplex
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The Galaxy Note 10.1 seems to address all of these issues with it's larger screen and 2 gigs of ram.
iPad 2012
What about browsers in RT tablets? MS might not allow other browsers...
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2553...mplaint_about_windows_rt_browser_choices.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2553...mplaint_about_windows_rt_browser_choices.html
So the only real problems with this being a replacement for a laptop is not being able to use it on your lap comfortably?
I nearly always use my laptop on a desk so I think I'll be fine.
I use my iPad with a kickstand from Speck and a Bluetooth keyboard on my lap all the time.
3rd parties can create browsers all they want. The only thing is that they must use MS's browser engine for rendering and javascript. This is the same as iOS.
lol realize who your talking to, I'm one of the biggest surface supporters. Regardless I saw the same demo you have and you either have to deal with it flat on your lap or on the angle the kick stand supports. The second thicker keyboard is still quite flimsy and does not compare at all to the base of a laptop. Also considering its to pieces held together by magnets it won't do as good of a job in those scenarios. If you don't need it on your lap (I never put a laptop on my lap do to heat) then your fine. Its just an instance where the pro might not be the best tool for the job
Damon Bennet
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anyone have a link to that demo? could not find it
Complex Shadow
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nope. MS stores or MS online store.
Seems unlikely that they'll spend millions of $$$ to create and market a product and then intentionally kill the sales of it.
LQX
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Hah! This is Microsoft we are talking about.
You known this is MS right?
Actually didn't MS say that 'select' online retailers will be selling Surface as well?
edit. Some Googling confirms that MS's words are that Surface will be sold in MS retail stores and "select" online retailers. So that likely means Microsoft.com store and "other select" retailers.
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What a load of bullshit.
Not available at retail stores?
You've got to be kidding me right? I thought this was Microsoft's next big thing in hardware? How the hell are they going to sell this thing without putting it into physical stores?
MS retail stores, they have opened quite a few and are continue to open them on a regular basis. However, it would seem that the large majority of consumers will be buying online through various outlets.
http://content.microsoftstore.com/home.aspx
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Deleted member 81567
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So Amazon won't stock it?
bigtroyjon
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The only thing Microsoft said was that Surface would be available at MS stores and the website. They didn't say it would only be available there.
I'm guessing they are trying to get a retailer to enter into some kind of exclusivity agreement to help out with marketing for it and that's why they haven't mentioned anything else at this point.
I'm guessing they are trying to get a retailer to enter into some kind of exclusivity agreement to help out with marketing for it and that's why they haven't mentioned anything else at this point.
They'd better. I've been stockpiling Amazon gift cards, store credit, and trade in credit for a Surface Pro. If they don't get it, I'll probably get a Macbook Air.
It's still not enough. Not to be in the real retail stores is a shame.
Steelyuhas
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If it is indeed "select online retailers", you can bet that Amazon would be one of those.
That said, I still say take the MS stores comment with a grain of salt.
brotkasten
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Microsoft's Surface was spotted on Amazon Germany.
http://www.amazon.de/s/ref=amb_link...1&pf_rd_p=308259687&pf_rd_i=microsoft surface
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39996738&postcount=6587
Salvor.Hardin
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So any word on battery life for the two models? That's the make or break for me.
They only intend to sell a few million of them. Their intent seems to be less about massive sales and more about pushing their OEMs along.
No word yet and it's a make or break for me too.
Same here, this will be my ipad replacement as long as they get the battery life right.
The providers of that kind of entertainment have been adapting for some time now.
You need to give the porn industry more credit. They are not all cavemen like YouTube.
Isn't flash built into IE10?
brotkasten
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Only for certified sites.
LOL @ Acer feeling threatened Acer to MS: think twice about your Surface plans
Interesting.
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I know nothing about hardware specs, but why is it something they're not good at? Isn't the Surface hardware supposed to be good?
And what else creates a negative reaction? Acer releasing horrible tablets, as they've done with their Android hardware...regardless of existence of MS Surface, I'd would never even thought of buying an Acer tablet, or Asus either.
planar1280
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MS to Acer: why dont you make your tablets better than surface?
"It is not something you are good at so please think twice."
This quote was hilarious because acer is soooo much better at making hardware....
Also ironic since acer just started making android tablets and didn't show any loyalty to ms and now that surface beat them all of the sudden they are worried.
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