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Microsoft to reveal its next generation of Windows on June 24th
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ResilientBanana
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I’ve literally had no issues with Windows 10 other than with Store apps.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
I'm basically talking on the UX side. Windows is a powerful OS, but as a person who uses WIndows, MacOS and Ubuntu... Windows 10 is the least pleasant to look at. The UX is all over the place, and they're simply to slow to implement anything or sometimes they just give up midway of the implementation.
I just hope that Fluent design is the real deal.
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The Pleasure
Member
I like how osx drops program support after a few years. Support that upgrade model. Apple is the true visionary of not owning shit. At least microsoft still supports legacy hardware. I can still use a zip drive in windows 10.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
That’s why it breaks so frequently, it still has 3.1 code too.
6502
Member
I am the in house go to "computer guy" in the office (16 ppl). I set up the computers, fix issues, develop our systems.
My only knowledge is A level computing from 20yrs ago and experiance of 80s microcomputers (I did not physically use a non dos pc until 1998 and did not get a pc until 2000). Repeat - I am the most techy guy we have.
I have had very few issues at all whilst running Windows 10 and few issues at all over multiple pcs, various brands and specs. For office use it is excellent, stable and easy enough for people to use. The hardest thing is sharing 365.
You guys need to go back to Windows ME (with office installed) and remind yourselves what a piece of shit looks like.
You kids don't know you are born! ;-)
My only knowledge is A level computing from 20yrs ago and experiance of 80s microcomputers (I did not physically use a non dos pc until 1998 and did not get a pc until 2000). Repeat - I am the most techy guy we have.
I have had very few issues at all whilst running Windows 10 and few issues at all over multiple pcs, various brands and specs. For office use it is excellent, stable and easy enough for people to use. The hardest thing is sharing 365.
You guys need to go back to Windows ME (with office installed) and remind yourselves what a piece of shit looks like.
You kids don't know you are born! ;-)
ManaByte
Gold Member
They already removed 16bit support from 64bit builds of Windows, since XP 64bit edition. They won't remove Win32 support for a long time since 32bit programs are still widely used. You can still download and install 32bit Windows 10, although I suspect that won't last.
Kazekage1981
Member
Wasn't the goal of Windows 10x to get rid of Win32 and only focus on UWP and PWA, and get rid of all the legacy garbage and baggage? It doesn't sound like a bad idea, but many people say that Win32 is the only thing Windows has going for itself (!?)
Also I am wondering if MS is going to talk more about 'Windows Core' as some sort of adaptive OS that works on all form factors such as: Desktop, Tablets/Laptops, Mobile Devices...
The thing about mobile devices is.....besides laptops/tablets they dont have:
Windows SmartPhones, its dead
Apple Watch like device, its dead
so what mobile devices are they talking about?
Will Windows CORE be used on Smart UHD TVs? Cause Android OS runs on Sony's UHDTVS
Also I am wondering if MS is going to talk more about 'Windows Core' as some sort of adaptive OS that works on all form factors such as: Desktop, Tablets/Laptops, Mobile Devices...
The thing about mobile devices is.....besides laptops/tablets they dont have:
Windows SmartPhones, its dead
Apple Watch like device, its dead
so what mobile devices are they talking about?
Will Windows CORE be used on Smart UHD TVs? Cause Android OS runs on Sony's UHDTVS
V1LÆM
Gold Member
only issues i've had with Windows 10 (and i've used it since it launched in 2015) was the first major update (nov '15) that caused my system to randomly BSOD a lot but a bios update fixed it so i guess it was kinda my own fault.
that said, i do think Windows needs a serious reboot. already posted in here but basically i think they can keep W10 around for those who want it and they can start working on a brand new version of Windows that has no legacy support or bloatware.
that said, i do think Windows needs a serious reboot. already posted in here but basically i think they can keep W10 around for those who want it and they can start working on a brand new version of Windows that has no legacy support or bloatware.
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Kazekage1981
Member
That was suppose to be windows 10x but they scrapped it. Windows 'core' is still a mystery to me.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Windows 10 has been brilliant for me! Incredibly robust, fast to load and snappy to use. I don't use the store that much to comment on it.
V1LÆM
Gold Member
yeah.
windows 10 is almost 6 years old. that's the longest version of Windows. i know it's had updates every year but they need to do something new.
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Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
eh… it has it’s weird quirks too.
I hate fluent design, if that's the half step back towards Vista's frozen glass look.
TTOOLL
Member
Preach! The flatness of Windows 10 must die with its inconsistencies.
Kazekage1981
Member
Cool concept videos
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
That's why I love VMs, I can mess around with all versions of windows. Hardware compatibility? just make some shit up.
vmware? sweet
i roll with virt manager
QuantumZebra
Member
New bar is a given... unified design? Lol.
They have been using the same archaic and fugly-ass back-end since Windows NT.
Working in IT I have no choice but to be well-versed in Microsoft's product catalogue... Office 365 and Teams are serious game-changers (Azure too).
But for fuck's sake... going from the janky piecemeal OS of Windows 10 at work to my Mac at home is so jarring. They have to shed that old back-end (just please don't make it as buggy and unusable as the "new" Office 365 admin centers they keep releasing for who knows why).
The Pleasure
Member
Microtransactions at 3.99 each. The windows plus cds are dead.
Is MS still working on attaining cohesion in the windows OS or have they completely given up and are ok with this frankenstein?
I honestly dont get why these 2 things are on different screens, from two different eras of Windows (lets not even get into the interfaces leftover from 95/98)
I honestly dont get why these 2 things are on different screens, from two different eras of Windows (lets not even get into the interfaces leftover from 95/98)
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Hatemachine
Banned
windows 8 wasn't really bad. the hate was misplaced. people's heads exploded when they turned on their computer and it didn't go straight to the desktop.
Sejan
Member
8s problem was that it wasn’t intuitively designed. They aimed for a system that would work well for either mouse+keyboard as well as touch. Unfortunately, they leaned far too heavily into touch leaving an unintuitive system for traditional computer systems. It was just a mess of a design that didn’t work well for anyone. As someone that used Windows 8 on both traditional computers as well as a dedicated touch device (the ARM based surface tablet), I never understood quite what they were trying to accomplish. It was just poorly conceived and implemented.
MightySquirrel
Banned
True Next Gen is about to start boys! Always exciting to see what next gen PC has to offer.
All of the above were good, your experience depends on the hardware running the OS at the time. A lot of people moaning about Vista were using it on Celeron systems with 512Mb of RAM.
Also, even though they were not consumer focused OS's, Windows NT and 2000 were very ahead of their time and were well received.
I think of note here is the cut off date for support for Windows 10
As of this post, October 14th 2025. Plans change all the time so the time frame may change in a couple years.
Windows 10 Home and Pro - Microsoft Lifecycle | Microsoft Docs
As of this post, October 14th 2025. Plans change all the time so the time frame may change in a couple years.
Windows 10 Home and Pro - Microsoft Lifecycle | Microsoft Docs
Zeroing
Banned
Windows vista was crap! I used it… on a new pc… back in the days… the brand new printer didn’t worked with it for example… and so on.
Kadve
Member
Alternatively (not sure though if 2000 should be included and mess up the chart, it did find its way to some home computers):
Windows 95 = good
Windows 98 = bad
Windows 98 se - good
Windows me - bad
Windows xp - good
Windows vista - bad
Windows 7 - good
Windows 8 - bad
Windows 8.1 - good
Windows 10 - its complicated
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Zeroing
Banned
Interesting no matter the list they always do a bad follow by a good OS. The question is… will the past trends continue ?
Kadve
Member
Microsoft usually takes a experiment - refinement approach when it comes to releasing windows. i.e. they release one version with a bunch of new features and takes the feedback from those into the next version before doing more experiments with the one after that.
With 10 all but good now though, the question is whether the next version will be another experimental or play it safe and just have it be an extension of 10.
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Kadve
Member
Also to elaborate:
Windows 98 = Didn't fix most of the stability issues present in 95 and had combability issues with older DOS stuff.
Windows Me = Essentially the same OS as 98 SE but but with severe combability and stability issues (despite running on DOS there was also no easy way of accessing DOS mode)
Windows Vista - Had performance issues and high system requirements. People also criticized Microsoft decision have it more locked down and DRM friendly.
Windows 8 - A failed experiment by MS to make an version of Windows that could be used on booth tablets and traditional computers. Ultimately pleasing nobody.
Windows 10 = at launch there was a lot of complains surrounding privacy and data collecting. People also weren't to happy with the forced updates the system does. Most of that seems to have died down by now though.
Also note that XP had plenty of criticism when it launched, mostly surrounding its complete incompatibility with DOS and security concerns. 95 also had many issues but booth are now hailed as some of the greatest OSes Microsoft has made due to how initiative they where.
Windows 98 = Didn't fix most of the stability issues present in 95 and had combability issues with older DOS stuff.
Windows Me = Essentially the same OS as 98 SE but but with severe combability and stability issues (despite running on DOS there was also no easy way of accessing DOS mode)
Windows Vista - Had performance issues and high system requirements. People also criticized Microsoft decision have it more locked down and DRM friendly.
Windows 8 - A failed experiment by MS to make an version of Windows that could be used on booth tablets and traditional computers. Ultimately pleasing nobody.
Windows 10 = at launch there was a lot of complains surrounding privacy and data collecting. People also weren't to happy with the forced updates the system does. Most of that seems to have died down by now though.
Also note that XP had plenty of criticism when it launched, mostly surrounding its complete incompatibility with DOS and security concerns. 95 also had many issues but booth are now hailed as some of the greatest OSes Microsoft has made due to how initiative they where.
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Kazekage1981
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TTOOLL
Member
First Impressions from Thurrott
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SirKicksalot
Member
All I want is the return of Aero.
eddie4
Genuinely Generous
LOL the fucking recycle bin is still on the desktop. Come on.
Kazekage1981
Member
BigBooper
Member
Why is it more productive or better design to have the button location on the taskbar be unpredictable? Looks like they are continuing the good Windows bad Windows cycle.
ResilientBanana
Member
From what I can tell you can align your icons. I'm interested to see what the Glow setting looks like.