CopperPuppy
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ITT: People somehow surprised Bill Maher is a fucking lightweight.
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Milo Yiannopoulos is Going on Real Time with Bill Maher
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Spiral Insanity
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He even said hurtful shit similar to your examples, but the audience laughed, Bill didn't challenge him... that normalizes his statements. "Yeah, ... that's true! I agree! It's ok to think this!"
Red Blaster
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fucking lawl at all the marks in this thread who thought maher would actually do anything
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SubScorpianZero
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I called it. Maher doesn't give a shit either, it's good for ratings.
Dyslexicon
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I couldn't have said it better myself.
Ok hold on a second. I'm not saying that he isn't a piece of human garbage, because he is. All I'm saying is that nothing about that interview was some sort of dangerous hate speech that everyone was afraid of him doing. The things he said were basically what I expected him to say, in that he's normalizing the terrible shit he did on twitter. On the other hand he still made some points that Bill has been making for a while now that the liberal sensitivity has hurt their overall cause. That's it.
...That jester was the one who's been so effective at provoking people? I'm surprised that someone so ineffectual has amassed so much of a following, but attracting people who want to be human garbage too doesn't seem to take much. Maher was much too soft on him either way, though, as there was no question that he was perfectly comfortable.
BronsonLee
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Ever since Maher wouldn't shut the fuck up about Religulous not getting awards I don't pay him any mind
onadesertedisland
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Maher is an opportunist just as Milo is. They should get married.
Steeped in a Sea of Games
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Maher continues to be terrible. What a surprise.
John Oliver is the only real HBO savior.
John Oliver is the only real HBO savior.
Again, for the millionth time. How was the harassment of a trans student, so bad, that she had to leave school, justified?
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No wonder Milo agreed to going on the show.
theCalamity
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Milo drove that segment, couching his insidious ideas in a veneer of charm.
excelsiorlef
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It was obvious as fuck how this was going to go down the minute he wasn't on the panel... The panel is trial by fire, the top of the show interview is free advertising for the person being interviewed.
Spiral Insanity
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How was it not hate speech? People can't get hurt over the internet? Do I need to give you stats regarding how many kids killed themselves over social media bullying? FFS
This is not about liberal sensitivity. I'm all for free speech. But that speech must be CHALLENGED with REASON, DECENCY and COMPASSION. If you want to grab a microphone and preach your hateful crap, prepare for a rebuttal. Except, that didn't happen here.
Quite. Would've gotten turned inside out by someone like John Oliver or Samantha Bee.
excelsiorlef
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Also I don't know how many people were actually believing Milo would go full hate speech on the show.
I know I wasn't, I figured he'd tame himself to appear reasonable and build a persona of respectability from that...
This is PR so that the next time he goes to do a talk and the people who actually pay attention to him protest he can point to appearances like Bill Maher and paint his detractors as the bad guys...
Bill Maher gave him free PR.... thanks man.
This was cover...
This thread though should go into some sort of museum for all eternity though, because the amount of Maher is going to destroy him comments are priceless...
I know I wasn't, I figured he'd tame himself to appear reasonable and build a persona of respectability from that...
This is PR so that the next time he goes to do a talk and the people who actually pay attention to him protest he can point to appearances like Bill Maher and paint his detractors as the bad guys...
Bill Maher gave him free PR.... thanks man.
This was cover...
This thread though should go into some sort of museum for all eternity though, because the amount of Maher is going to destroy him comments are priceless...
Dyslexicon
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Her grievance was public info, she did mutiple prior interviews didn't she before he came to the college? If I'm not mistaken her story, likeness and grievance with the school was featured in numerous news sites/web etc.. 6 months before.
I think she was pretty well known before he made her a focal point of his talk briefly in his talk.
I dont quite hate Bill now because of that interview but Milo dominated it, mostly cause the guy seems really good at flamboyantly talking real fast and not letting anyone speak. And he slipped really quick lines of hate and bullshit in there almost too quick to catch. Bill wanted to push a 'free speech' agenda and i dont think he knew what he was getting into. I think he needs to do more research. Im sure he will get a bunch of shit from fans after the show.
Yeah, that wasn't my expectation either. He's done a few of these interviews before and he always tames it down before them.
I'm assuming he ran circles around Maher, who was also being friendly and agreeable (like he was with Coulter), the entire time?
Exactly. And the thing, is, we told people what he was going to do and the response is "Well he isn't that bad and is right about liberals!"
He normalized himself, and Bill is now culpable for giving him a venue.
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And? You get watch her getting harassed right on film. It was linked in this thread.
He leads gamergate, harasses Leslie Jones and the argument is (not talking about you here) that he should be given a venue because of a misguided understanding of freedom of speech.
CopperPuppy
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I see so much shit about "liberal sensitivity," as though outrage is somehow unique to that side of the aisle.
Anyone here ever visited r/The_Deluded? Ever see how sensitive those motherfuckers get? Have conservative Facebook friends? Notice how they exist in a constant state of outrage over shit like Starbucks cups or "Happy Holidays" or how unfair the media is to Trump?
Still want to single out "liberal hissy fits"?
Anyone here ever visited r/The_Deluded? Ever see how sensitive those motherfuckers get? Have conservative Facebook friends? Notice how they exist in a constant state of outrage over shit like Starbucks cups or "Happy Holidays" or how unfair the media is to Trump?
Still want to single out "liberal hissy fits"?
excelsiorlef
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He still harassed her in his speech and ended with "I'd fuck him", Milo continuously referred to her by name and by male pronouns...
SodiumBenzoate
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Seemed a bit coked up, or was it just me?
First gay President.This was Bill's equivalent of this moment:
Has the video been uploaded yet?
Milo was influencing the alt-right movement, re emergence of nazism long before Chester Cheeto was in office. Bill has been railing against Trump's entire cabinet for how dangerous and crazy they are -- has Milo on and it seems like they may get drinks after the show. This is how he lulls people into this ideology, he's a quirky gay Jew that just says what he wants and loves democracy and you forget about all of the truly abhorrent shit that he's said and attacks that he's orchestrated.
This guy has a lot of influence. He's not making laws but he's brainwashing people and those people can vote and they raise children.
This guy has a lot of influence. He's not making laws but he's brainwashing people and those people can vote and they raise children.
BlastProcessing
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The primary concern wasn't him reading Mein Kampf on camera tonight. The issue was that his appearance would increase his audience in general. Maher is using Milo to get ratings and Milo is using Maher to increase his ability to make more Nazis.
The overlap between Milo and Bill's worldviews says more about Bill than it does Milo here.
CassidyIzABeast
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The interview was great. Milo was the giggling goofball that says and does shit to make you gasp and clutch the pearls that he's always been. Its pretty much the same reaction I had to him being on the Rogan podcast. He's a goof with a foul mouth and I'm still amazed by how much attention he gets for being such as obvious joke.
cartographer
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Is it a joke when he organizes and supports harassment campaigns? Bullies a transgender student out of school? Incites and supports violence?
But what a goof, right?
Astral Dog
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Its all in good fun right?
What are you talking about?
The crap this person does is disgusting nothing goofy about it.
NYR
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This is a great post. Kudos, agree 100% with the way you interpreted the interview. You'll get hate from it (and it looks like you already have) but I found him to be a complete idiotic goof, this generation's Ann Coulter saying inflammatory shit, he is human garbage and getting way too much attention.
excelsiorlef
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Because he actively harasses people and travels to campuses to talk to people and encourage them to hate on folks like you know Trans people....
On the point of Social Media bullying, you're right, it's awful that random people have the power to hurt someone to the point of suicide and then get off the hook for any culpability. At the same time, you can't stop assholes from hiding behind a screen name on twitter and spamming hate to anyone they think they can get a reaction out of. Twitter should have a responsibility to stop people launching personal attacks, especially ones directed towards minors. Besides that how do you stop it though? Does the responsibility lie with the victim to get off of social media? That's not fair. Does the responsibility lie with twitter? They can't IP ban every single person who attacks someone in a hurtful way. The best they can do is ban people like Milo who direct mass attacks.
But my point about liberals throwing hissy fits doesn't apply to that. Watch one of the recent episodes of Maher during the new rules segment. There is such a thing as being too sensitive to mildly offensive things said on the internet. One of the reasons liberals have such a bad reputation is that the loud minority gets extremely offended by things that should just be ignored. If you don't like what is being said and it isn't directed at hurting a specific person, then let it go. That's all I'm trying to say.
It's apparent to me exactly why Maher had Milo on. It's because he wants to blow the liberal dog whistles and see what kind of fake crybaby outrage he is going to muster on the left. A theme he's been going after this season is the left getting upset over idiotic things that don't matter and honestly, the amount of people wishing ill of him in this thread alone is proof that it's working.
The only troll on that stage was Maher tonight.
excelsiorlef
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So the sheer amount of transphobic hate Milo gets paid to transmit on college campuses just doesn't matter?
Why is opposing Milo fake "outrage", why is opposing a man who dehumanizes my community at every turn being a "crybaby"
ipukespiders
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I was really looking forward to watching this later tonight, and now especially after seeing all the reactions in this thread.
Ugh...
Oh yes the left tend to frown upon bigots and people who only know hate,oh but we are upset over nothing.
excelsiorlef
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He was the top of the show interview...
Maher spared Milo for actually having other people other than him challenge Milo.
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