This. Fascists love the "freedom of speech" argument when it benefits them to push their agenda, which is to case harm and spread their agenda. Once they have power, they will take that away. As Goebbels once said:
Do not give them that power.
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Milo Yiannopoulos planned to 'publicy name undocumented students' in cancelled talk
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This. Fascists love the "freedom of speech" argument when it benefits them to push their agenda, which is to case harm and spread their agenda. Once they have power, they will take that away. As Goebbels once said:
Do not give them that power.
VegaShinra
Junior Member
Does the American Constitution grant him free speech if he isn't even a citizen?
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
It only says people, and immigrants and visitors are given those rights as long as they are in our lands.
Of course it does, the constitution protects everyone and anyone in America, regardless of their citizenship or even if they got in legally.
VegaShinra
Junior Member
Yeah, it may seem like a dumb question but I had seen people use the line that the Constitution only applied to citizens in weird ways to justify the immigration bans earlier in the week.
Frozenprince
Banned
Which makes what he planned to do even more disgusting.
polyh3dron
Banned
Can we please get video of him being punched?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Steeped in a Sea of Games
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I'm going to say it: unfettered free speech is a disease.
This is no different from someone yelling fire in a crowded theater. Slippery slope can fuck off; it's not bad to have certain limits. Fall on your sword when it actually matters.
This is no different from someone yelling fire in a crowded theater. Slippery slope can fuck off; it's not bad to have certain limits. Fall on your sword when it actually matters.
This was the only article I had on that. Also eludes to some other instance where some random dude gets caked on the street. The club was told to lay low for their safety. I mean you wont find me ever hitting anyone, call me what you will, I aint going back to jail for them, but it does get results.
http://www.ktvu.com/news/233480000-story
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
For what it's worth, the sources are hearsay, and Milo denies it, but given Milo's past behavior, I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Also, Milo's book is #1 on Amazon's bestseller list now. It used to be #732 a few days ago.
Also, Milo's book is #1 on Amazon's bestseller list now. It used to be #732 a few days ago.
SolarPowered
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Utterly chilling
Dude won
irony is he doesnt charge for his appearances at all so the protests didnt stop him profiting from this. Was listening to Dave Rubin talk today and he was so right, guy has played the left like a fiddle.
The left isn't spending money on his book though.
So he gets some Fox lemmings to buy his book, who cares. People at Berkley stood up for what's right.
UltimaPooh
Member
This. He didn't play shit.
All of his highest rated videos come from people invading his platform, his actual speeches, the ones where he talks from start to finish, tend to not get much traction. He makes a career of being provocative because he knows the bait is too tempting.
Its entirely possible that not rioting was a better use of time than giving him a national stage.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I'd rather protesters stand up to this waste of skin.
There is such a thing as a worse case scenario
EatinOlives
Member
And what, let him publicly name the undocumented students? What's your proposed tactic other than to say claim any outcome is "he won"?
This is a level beyond his usual "liberals are pieces of shit and women should be in camps" thing. I honestly don't even understanding how publicly outing people is legal and protected by free speech. He is directly responsible for anything and everything that happens to these people as a result of it. If someone commits suicide as a result of harassment from his followers, for example, he should be sent to prison for murder.
This guy has been around for a long time. Ignoring him didn't do anything, only made him more popular. Either way this was going to end up happening. Resisting him and fighting back, violently if necessary, is literally the only option left. It scared Richard Spencer into fucking off so clearly it's working.
No shit there is.
And do you not think this is the worst case scenario? Absolutely nothing was accomplished to the benefit of anyone, he has multiple platforms, MORE platforms now, if you think you have won because you stopped him named undocumented students then if he is intent on doing it you basically made his microphone bigger. Now if he mentions them its national news.
It doesn't matter. Rolling over is not an option. You resist and fight them at every single turn.
he'd be a good german.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
oh Dave Rubin's one to talk.
Milo played him like a fiddle. He makes speeches that include Rubin as an anecdote of being an ashamed liberal. Rubin is totally compromised and used by Milo.
AstroNut325
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And simply letting this Nazi talk was going to give him even more platforms. The right wing of this country is not rational. Has not been for a long time.
Blocking them, protesting, and even beating the F*** out of them is the solution.
All I am saying is if you become the proponents of the people you are fighting through your actions, however well intentioned, then there needs, naturally, to be a level of redress on your tactics going forward.
Spyder_Monkey
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Are you a Milo supporter?
What? Because anarchists maced a girl and roughed a few other people up? What are you talking about?
Hes not a nazi, I have heard many of his speeches, I am not on his side.
Beating the fuck out of people immediately destroys your agument
In one post you have managed to both misinterpret your "enemy" and go to violence as a solution. If you continue in this mindset you will find yourself with many enemies and only one way to deal with them, sounds like facism to me.
I have known of milo for 3 years, I have watched more of his work than anyone here.
I am not a supporter of him, I think he is an opportunist, ive written long posts about him before but they mostly get ignored in the face of labels from people who have only heard about him from blog posts and here.
jellies_two
Member
159 pages plus on this guy and we are back to a junior members stubborn training wheels argument. Smh. Do these come on index cards or something ?
he knows more than anyone. he knows more than anyone. he knows more than anyone.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
You don't support him not because he's a shitty person in every single respect but he's a fucking opportunist?
Yep. You get the talking points as soon as you make a Reddit account.
UltimaPooh
Member
I know Nazis, I've met Nazis, I've even talked to Nazis, and I can say for certain, without a single doubt, the man is a neo nazi.
But if that's too outspoken for you, allow me to use the PC term for it, he's Alt-Right.
He named and shamed a transwoman that attended a college publicly.
but have you watched more videos than anyone else here?
jellies_two
Member
Ok I can see where this is going
Milo for president 2020
#mmaga
Milo make america great again
They can re use all that photo shop just copy paste an extra M
And Milo can skip up and down stairs like Obama.
Milo for president 2020
#mmaga
Milo make america great again
They can re use all that photo shop just copy paste an extra M
And Milo can skip up and down stairs like Obama.
jack_package_200
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https://twitter.com/renegadecut/status/827745263162908672
Anyway, I hope schools start turning him away.
I dont support him because his views generally dont hold up to any real dissemination , he is actively afraid to debate people who know more than him, he is a coward and falls back on tropes that he does not fully understand in concept, but understands enough to exploit.
He is absolutely an opportunist, among other things
Potentially, yes, he is.
Spyder_Monkey
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I know Milo. I know Milo very well. I have words. The best words. I think the left are more fascist than the right and shouldn't stand up for what's right but I'm totally not a supporter guys.
very obvious /s
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Dave Rubin, eh? He recently put up some commentary about the recent event. He obviously takes a "I don't agree with everything you say, but I defend your freedom to say it" stance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRBwjMn-Fto
Agree? Disagree?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRBwjMn-Fto
Agree? Disagree?
He's tried to apeal more to his Nazi demographic directly in the past, but he's still too gay and jewish for some of that crowd. He's kind of a wannabe Nazi.
He's Nazi-lite, I think that's the best to describe him.
He does heavily fall back on freedom of speech, he is also incredibly disillusioned by the left.
EatinOlives
Member
Why don't you actually address the issue raised by the OP, that if he had been able to go on stage and talk that he would've publicly named undocumented students?
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