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[Alcibiades]

Been a Tom Cruise fan since I was a kid - he's amazing I don't care if he's a bit of a religious nut.

Saw this film in lieMAX tonight, kinda wish I had seen it in a true IMAX now because some of the sequences were amazing. Despite enjoying the movie overall, I consider it lackluster compared to even Dead Reckoning. The details of MI films aren't very memorable (and there are 2-3 I haven't seen) but I always enjoy them and feel blown away byTom Cruise's running on rooftops and stunts and all that.

The major problem is runtime - it's overstuffed with flashbacks and callbacks. I sorta wish they had kept the name Dead Reckoning Part 2 and made this movie flow directly from the first one. It feels made for people that haven't seen any MI films, but I always considered them pretty self-contained as I could enjoy them without having seen all the rest. This one is a direct sequel on the one hand, but also treats the audience like they haven't seen the previous one. Dead Reckoning Part 1 is the only MI film where I remember the main conflict pretty well (AI vs the world) so all the re-explaining in the film was a bit annoying.

Still a solid movie and great sequences and a few good moments of dialogue, but definitely weaker than Dead Reckoning Part 1.

 

[JimmyRustler]

So the chicks aren't as hot in this one either?

They barely have any real screentime, especially Pom. Such a shame…

 

[Windle Poons]

Well I mean, that entire setpiece/stunt is completely insane, probably the craziest in the entire franchise.

Wasn't a criticism of any of the set pieces.

 

[Windle Poons]

They barely have any real screentime, especially Pom. Such a shame…

I thought they had plenty of screentime - plus there was also a lot of female seniority too.

Again just my opinion, not saying it was a bad thing either. Get my disclaimers in.

 

[Salz01]

They barely have any real screentime, especially Pom. Such a shame…

This sucks.

 

[kunonabi]

Just got out. I think some of the complaints are a little overblown and I enjoyed it quite a bit. It's better than 2 and 3 for sure but I probably wouldn't put it above anything else since it still doesn't have enough of a team focus and the entity is still eh has an adversary. I mean I would have loved the idea of the IMF's technological sorcery being turned against them forcing to go super old school maybe even using old tricks from the TV show but that just wasn't what they went with. Much like the anti-IMF concept of Rogue Nation was never really utilized either.

 

[Sardaukarama]

So the chicks aren't as hot in this one either?

Oh yeah they are purdy..I would not say no to keeping any of the ladies at the bottom of a well and giving them oil to make their skin glisten ...diddy style

 

[kunonabi]

Yeah, Kirby and Ferguson aren't in it but you still get some great Atwell cleavage and some Pom midriff.

 

[Redneckerz]

I saw this last week even before release (Yeah don't tell me why my cinema tends to do this: They had it scheduled for release on May 22 on their own site and they just aired it on may 18-21 every day.

First Dead Reckoning was better, this one really wants to set a goodbye to Ethan. It reminded me a bit of the 007 No Time To Die, to be honest.

Some of the scenes are so baller. They are at times physically impossible to do, but Cruise is such a seller that he makes you believe people can do this.

It still was a worthy send-off. It is rare to have a movie franchise where each installment is always pretty good. Sure, every movie has its good and bad moments. But the sum of its parts is still way above average.

And i think that's the most striking part of M:I. This goes down in history as the definition of a pretty solid movie.

 

[StueyDuck]

I had a good time, always enjoy it when ol tommy cruize brings us back to the good old days of movies.

A friend of mine flew him around while he was scouting locations in SA, looks like some of it was filmed close to KZN side, pretty sure i recognise some of those vistas.

Was fun to see it in the movie, i had a proper good laugh when he says the line "looks like they've all gone home", just felt very South African and not the way it's intended to be interpreted in the movie.

Could totally see a high security bunker being lossed the second they find out the world's coming to an end

 

[Toons]

Greta movie. Shouldve kept the original title.

I hope this isn't the last one. Cruise can keep pumping these out til he's old and gray long as I care. These are highly entertaining and well made.

This one has some breathtaking action and stunt sequences. There's less clever fake outs, snd I always do love those, but theres a pretty nice theme of working together as one singular humanity and not letting division dictate out decisions that manages to land pretty well

All the cast even the small roles are memorable and deliver. Its a great watch. Rogue nation is still my favorite

 

[DKehoe]

Just back in from seeing it. It was a little messy in parts but I really enjoyed it. As Broken Sword fan it was fun to see Rolf Saxon get a fairly prominent role.

 

[INC]

Just back in from seeing it. It was a little messy in parts but I really enjoyed it. As Broken Sword fan it was fun to see Rolf Saxon get a fairly prominent role.

wtf hes George Stobbart!!!, broken sword is one of my all time favourites game, and i never knew this!!!!!

 

[Doom85]

The first half hour had me worried. Pretty much nothing but exposition and call backs in the dialogue, nothing that noteworthy in the action scenes, and a ridiculously fast pace that was making it hard to care what was happening.

Then:

Spoiler

Luther has his touching final moments with Ethan and the movie started to give a shit. Action scenes got a lot better. The cast is massive in this thing, but pretty much the entire cast manage to make the big roles and even the smaller roles feel memorable. Great stuff.

The fight between Ethan and the guy in the sub while the fight in the St. Matthew Island home happen simultaneously, and the biplanes sequence were the standout action scenes for me. The sunken sub scene kind of started off eh, but did pick up in tension as it went on.

I do feel there's so much happening that it prevents the film from having a few more quieter moments to even out the pacing, but it manages to work in spite of that.

I do wish Ilsa Faust had been revealed to have survived (and her and Ethan faked her death all along to help with an overall plan to blindside the Entity), and/or Jeremy Renner's character Agent Brandt from 4 and 5 had returned. Oh well.

For me, 4-6 are still the pinnacle of the series, followed by 3 and 7, but this film is still great and placed right below those two (with the first film being pretty good, and the second film being shit aside from the cheesy over the top final act. Hilariously, despite a ton of call backs, I think the second film was the one film not given a notable callback, so even the writers knew barely anyone cared about that one).

Very satisfying note to hopefully close Ethan's journey on (I doubt they'll let the IP end, but I feel it would be ridiculous to try to top the stakes of Ethan's story anymore. Let Cruise move on to other projects).

 

[jason10mm]

I dug it quite a bit. Having watched all of the franchise in the past few weeks definitely helped. Not a fan of all the "it's your destiny" and "it has been written" pseudo-religious stuff but that's fortunately easy to overlook. Having seen all the other films you can appreciate the "Ethan is gonna go off and do some fantastic shit while we all concoct an overly elaborate but intricately times sequence that has to go down in 5 seconds" as that's in all the films.

Kinda funny that Gabriel has not one but TWO high yield multimegaton nukes to casually use in what would normally be the end film macguffin.

And NO ONE can legit say the women are not important in this film when we have a female president, female SEAL, female nuke carrier captain (though this has a singular real life example), amongst others. And that Atwell cleavage shot, totally unnecessary but sooooo appreciated

I say give Tramell Tillman (the sub captain and the security guy in Severance) the Blade role. He EXUDES cool. Would be a good choice for a Shaft revival as well.

I would have REALLY REALLY wanted a scene where Luther opens that case and all we see is the golden glow as a call back to Marcellus Wallace as well.

I'm kinda curious what the film is really about. Digital piracy? Social media influences? That we are all living in a simulation?

And I also REALL Y REALLY want that 500 pentabyte per milisecond download speed that let 'The Entity' jump into the storage device in 'the blink of an eye'

 

[DKehoe]

wtf hes George Stobbart!!!, broken sword is one of my all time favourites game, and i never knew this!!!!!

Yup! It was always a fun little bit of trivia that George Stobbart was also the guy from the vault in the first movie. And now they've circled back round to him.


It's kinda funny that they must've heard people joking that Ethan ruined that guy's life, because they go out of their way to make it clear that Donloe being exiled to the wilderness after the heist was actually the best thing that ever happened to him. He's even grateful to Ethan for it. I suppose it's all part of Ethan now being this messianic figure of destiny.

 

[Gp1]

Kinda funny that Gabriel has not one but TWO high yield multimegaton nukes to casually use in what would normally be the end film macguffin.

And not only 1 but 2 vintage cool 1920's airplanes because the man wants redundancy

I'm kinda curious what the film is really about. Digital piracy? Social media influences? That we are all living in a simulation?

The dangers of a (rogue) AI.

I liked the movie, Tom is the last hollywood megastar and even with almost 3h of playtime imho the movie doesn't overstay its welcome.

But yeah, the "chosen one" part is a bit too cheesy for me, even when the AI needs a narrative device to explain exactly what Ethan needs to do. Swap that whole scene with a skirmish between the Russian and American Navy and it would be all good.

 

[jason10mm]

And not only 1 but 2 vintage cool 1920's airplanes because the man wants redundancy



The dangers of a (rogue) AI.

I liked the movie, Tom is the last hollywood megastar and even with almost 3h of playtime imho the movie doesn't overstay its welcome.

But yeah, the "chosen one" part is a bit too cheesy for me, even when the AI needs a narrative device to explain exactly what Ethan needs to do. Swap that whole scene with a skirmish between the Russian and American Navy and it would be all good.

I feel like the script is two films mashed into one. It has soooo many hanging chads and weird obtuse moments. And you can see where they ran out of $$$ or time (the whole bit where Gabriel falls out of the biplane, but has a chute, then Ethan jumps and his chute is on fire, presumably he was supposed to grab gabriels body (or even have a fight in mid air) and then use hat chute) and we get all this stuff with Basset as president that just adds an, IMHO, unnecessary layer of tension because it just seems ludicrous that all the worlds nuclear arsenals were somehow slaved to the internet and no humans are necessary to operate all these nuclear missiles yet striking a couple of capitals somehow mitigates anything.

The middle act, as soon as Ethan hits the water and as soon as he is pulled out, is cinema gold. They really should have cut heavily fore and aft from those bits, coulda saved 100 mill in production and ended up with a safer film for the distributor.

 

[Gp1]

The middle act, as soon as Ethan hits the water and as soon as he is pulled out, is cinema gold. They really should have cut heavily fore and aft from those bits, coulda saved 100 mill in production and ended up with a safer film for the distributor.

"Goodbye Ethan i'm the only one that has a parachute" (Tom silently thing: "Fuck it I'm paying for the entire movie, I'll rewrite this shit and Ethan will have two parachutes!")

The entire Navy / SOSUS act was awesome. IMHO It's when the film hits the high gear.

 

[Doom85]

"Goodbye Ethan i'm the only one that has a parachute" (Tom silently thing: "Fuck it I'm paying for the entire movie, I'll rewrite this shit and Ethan will have two parachutes!")

To my understanding, most parachutes have a backup in case the first one gets damaged. So Ethan deploying the second one after the first one burned wasn't out of nowhere.

 

[Gp1]

To my understanding, most parachutes have a backup in case the first one gets damaged. So Ethan deploying the second one after the first one burned wasn't out of nowhere.

I'm not an expert, but I believe the reserve parachute is in a small bag in front of the skydiver. If it was in the same (small) backpack as the regular parachute, it would have caught fire too.

 

[Durien]

Just saw it with my family and we enjoyed it. This was the first one my daughter watched and at one point, she whispers to me, I'm a bit lost. I've watched them all and while it is not as good I think as some of the others I was still entertained. You got to give credit to Cruise who does his own stunts. I think he's in like his early 60s

 

[jason10mm]

I'm not an expert, but I believe the reserve parachute is in a small bag in front of the skydiver. If it was in the same (small) backpack as the regular parachute, it would have caught fire too.

Yeah, as seen in the film there is a single chute bag behind the seat. But the first pilot wasn't wearing one, I don't think, and Ethan didn't take one from that plane. Gabriel WAS wearing a chute, but apparently also had an additional chute in his seat (maybe it was the limited control front seat Ethan got it from?). Anyway, it seems obvious to me that we saw a re-edited version where Gabriel dies from the impact instead of a mid air free fall battle and Ethan magically lands with a secret reserve chute instead of getting it from Gabriel. LOTS of this film feel like stressful editing choices rather than the natural flow of the script.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

So...just re-watched all the movies from the first one until the last and today saw the latest one at the movie theater.

I had no idea they would basically recap all the movies in the first hour. Specially for someone that just rewatched all of them, it was funny to see them doing what i had done at home. Not expecting it. Probably decided to do it because the first part underperformed, who knows. But that said...i was really surprised they decided to bring back the MI3 plot as the main event for the entity existing. I totally forgot we never got to know what the rabbit's foot really was. For a movie everyone keeps forgetting to talk about, it sure was important for the franchise. Not only was it a soft reboot for the series, it gave us his wife (which again was a huge plot point of Fallout), and now bringing back the rabbit's foot as well.

That said...it kinda bothered me how they literally never mentioned
Ilsa ever again. She was a huge part of the movies. Almost half of the IP, arguably the best female character from the movies and a huge part of Ethan's life. They had such a complicatd relationship that elevated Ethan's character and it felt weird how she was never mentioned again. Even Luther's death felt such a non event. Even Benji...did we even see his reaction?
For such a long movie i felt like what made the IP great, the relationship between these characters was nowhere. It was way too serious. I know what was a stake made no sense to have humor but it felt like i was watching a different IP.

Also...i loved how they pretended MI2 never happened in here lmao.

My order for these movies?

Fallout >> Rogue Nation >> Ghost Protocol >>>> Dead Reckoning >MI1 >> MI3 >> The Final Reckoning >>>>>>>>>>>> MI2

Also...i loved rewatching the first movie. Those 90's vibes were amazing, the cinematography, the way those night scenes were done at the beginning...it was such a vibe. It was more like an old school spy movie, not as much action...but it just worked. I can't imagine what it was like for some of you guys going from the 1st one to the 2nd one. (the 2nd one was the first of the franchise i saw so i wasn't shockd with MI2 came out and i was like 8 when the 1st movie was released).

On a last note, MI3 will always be terribly underrated to me. It was such a great comeback for the MI franchise, it clearly built a strong foundation for what was going to happen next, it was responsible for this IP peaking with the next 3 movies. It was a great soft reboot. Also, the ALIAS influences were everywhere! You could tell this was JJ Abrams work. Multiple ALIAS actor cameos, plenty of easter eggs to the TV show (number 47, code names like Outrigger, the way these characters met in supermarkets to talk to each other, Ethan living a double life, etc), and i honestly really liked the villain. After MI2 being so over the top it was refreshing.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Mission Impossible is too valuable of an IP, and too easy to keep going without Cruise, switch Cruise out with Ryan Gosling.

 

[Durien]

I wish they didn't use this AI premise for this. I would have watched people trying to figure out why countries are attacking each other all of a sudden to find someone is using AI to instigate countries going to war. Imagine AI telling India that Pakistan has launched missiles against it...

Edited for f'ing spell check having a mind of its own.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Loved it just like the previous ones. Sound design was awesome with Dolby Atmos especially on the sub, the sound was literally in my body how loud it was. End of an era, god damn and theres no one that does what Tom does. No action hero to keep Hollywood at its peak. All my childhood action hereos are old and retired. I WANT MORE. 8.5/10 for the movie.

 

[Chittagong]

Saw this today on the gigantic BFI IMAX screen. Film begins with Tom Cruise standing on top of the cinema we were in, epic.

Loved it. Pacing was better than Dead Reckoning, the water and plane scenes were some of the best in the series, and Atwell was absolutely gorgeous.

A true cinema experience.

 

[March Climber]

I finally saw the movie. Here's where I think it might rank for me:

Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol
Mission Impossible: Fallout
Mission Impossible 1
Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning
<--------------------------->(Maybe Final Reckoning here)
Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation
<--------------------------->(Maybe Final Reckoning here)
Mission Impossible 3
Mission Impossible 2

It would be in the bottom half, but not below 3 or 2 which I consider to be the weakest ones.

This movie is split into 3 acts:

1. The beginning and the U.S. mission planning scenes (this includes Ethan going on his Elder-Scrolls like quest of trading up favors for the next one)
2. The Underwater/Alaska section (A visual/audio treat, my favorite act of the movie aside from the very end of it)
3. The South Africa section (Featuring one of my favorite stunts of his)

I think the weakest part of this movie was the whole anime-like trope of 'everyone did this convoluted impossible thing at the exact same time, in the exact right order, at the exact right moment, and it all linked together perfectly in the end'. That, and the 'finishing each other's sentences line by line' thing.

Both are something that feels a bit dumb to watch in a non-fantasy, non-animated espionage action flick. The reason it works better in anime is because they'll have a cool soundtrack, utilize interesting camera angles, slo-mo, and increase the animation budget to emphasize that awesome moment, for example (spoilers for anyone watching My Hero Academia Season 2):



Otherwise, I highly enjoyed the Underwater/Alaska sequence due to the tension both moments presented. Same to a lesser degree for the final act's plane sequence.

If this was the full ending to Tom Cruise's Mission Impossible (I say 'Tom Cruise's in case it is revived under another actor in the future), then it was a good enough ending as a culmination to all of his movies. Yes, it is a bit cheesy and anime-like with the callbacks and returning characters, but deep down I liked that aspect as it painted Ethan's legacy and how it all culminated to this very moment.

It's a solid B- for me.

 

[jason10mm]

I think the weakest part of this movie was the whole anime-like trope of 'everyone did this convoluted impossible thing at the exact same time, in the exact right order, at the exact right moment, and it all linked together perfectly in the end'. That, and the 'finishing each other's sentences line by line' thing.

I agree. There are a lot of editing tricks in these films (McQuarrie especially likes them) of showing a "future possible event" in order to foreshadow something, the jumping forward and back in time, and the ensemble exposition dumps. I think a lot of this is because the actual plot isn't THAT complicated, but is kinda silly, so they have to dress it up in a lot of detail and then have to try to punch up exposition moments to avoid boring the shit out of the audience..

My issue with this last one is the sheer number of macguffins in it. We got Luther's poison pill, the sevastapol sonar hard drive thingie, not one but TWO elaborate nuclear bombs, and then the 5D super flash drive at the end. It makes no sense to load the film down with these things other than to try to find shit for the bloated cast to do.

Atwell, for example, has that entire 5D drive thing made for her so she has more to do than just cut a wire. Really, if there is a super computer complex in a mountain somewhere, that's where "the entity" wants to go, AND you just happen to have a nuke handy, just let it in then bomb it. How exactly is a million terabyte AI or whatever gonna instantly download itself over a satellite feed? How did luthor make an access device for something he has never seen and probably can't get good specs on AND make a magic thumb drive all while dying in a sewer with nothing but a hobby electronics kit? All the stuff with Bassett was the same thing. They couldn't just have her send Ethan on, they had to invent this tedious "all countries wire their nukes to a hackable computer and while we can monitor this infection we have no ability to stop it and of course no country would take their nuclear weapons offline (as if they even needed to be online in the first place) to prevent losing them anyway. It's dead weight and feels like something written for a TV series or a third film.

I DID like the notion that in a world where you can't trust anything digital, you have to fall back on personal attachments the AI can't easily know about or understand. The presidents message to the admiral, or her giving the pendant to Ethan for the sub captain. THAT is what this film should have leaned in on, showing that direct human contact is far more powerful than virtual relationships which can be so easily faked. Having Ethan rely on all his connections over the series, like said knife drop computer guy from M:I1 (and that out of the blue kinship between FBI guy and Jon Voight) would have been a better film, I think. Even just some voices if Renner was still laid up, and any film could use more Paula Patton.

I'm looking forward to a nice 4K collection, hopefully with lots of behind the scenes stuff and commentaries.

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

I can't believe people are actually enjoying this bloated, boring mess.

I don't think I've ever saw MI3 but this final reckoning is easily the worst. Also up there with being terrible.

Part one sets this film up as the AI in the submarine going rogue, even conducting itself from the safety at the bottom of the ocean (makes sense) although I did wonder how an AI could control shit from down there.

Turns out in final reckoning actually the eternity is just some random Chinese computer virus cruise let out in the 3rd movie lmao. That's what? Been doing the rounds on the internet for 20 years, corrupted some russian sub AI or something, it's just awful and awfully explained. This movie doubles down on dumb .

I'm convinced tom cruise loves the meme of him running and makes sure he runs for the sake of it in the movies. He near the start he needs to get to his friend and instead of driving there he runs across London. Some how catches up to the bad guy who was in a jeep at the end by yes running.

The whole plan to stop the entity was ridiculous but as poster above pointed out, just to give people something to do.

For a film big on set pieces and action, they sucked hard on this and boring. Did anyone time the whole underwater dive sequence? I'm sure it was 20/30 minutes of watching someone just swim. Who the fuck needs to this? The plane sequence at the end wasn't good either.

The film decided to shoe in the most random tie ins from the first film for no reason. Why we need Jim's kid pretending he wants revenge. And the guy from the noc list computer, although I did like that call back.


Forgot to add the whole nuclear doomsday scenario.. half these nuclear nations don't even have ICBMs. Some like the UK is submarine based how the fuck is an AI going to launch that lol.

The us military plan of action was beyond stupid. Even casual people know nukes are not stored and launched from cities so what good was eliminating other nations capital cities? They already knew the AI has control over the arsenals so destroying their cities would mean fuck all when Russia's nukes are in launch silos and mobile launchers.

I just couldn't get over how insanely billy Madison stupid this all was.

 

[jason10mm]

I can't believe people are actually enjoying this bloated, boring mess.

I don't think I've ever saw MI3 but this final reckoning is easily the worst. Also up there with being terrible.

Part one sets this film up as the AI in the submarine going rogue, even conducting itself from the safety at the bottom of the ocean (makes sense) although I did wonder how an AI could control shit from down there.

Turns out in final reckoning actually the eternity is just some random Chinese computer virus cruise let out in the 3rd movie lmao. That's what? Been doing the rounds on the internet for 20 years, corrupted some russian sub AI or something, it's just awful and awfully explained. This movie doubles down on dumb .

I'm convinced tom cruise loves the meme of him running and makes sure he runs for the sake of it in the movies. He near the start he needs to get to his friend and instead of driving there he runs across London. Some how catches up to the bad guy who was in a jeep at the end by yes running.

The whole plan to stop the entity was ridiculous but as poster above pointed out, just to give people something to do.

For a film big on set pieces and action, they sucked hard on this and boring. Did anyone time the whole underwater dive sequence? I'm sure it was 20/30 minutes of watching someone just swim. Who the fuck needs to this? The plane sequence at the end wasn't good either.

The film decided to shoe in the most random tie ins from the first film for no reason. Why we need Jim's kid pretending he wants revenge. And the guy from the noc list computer, although I did like that call back.


Forgot to add the whole nuclear doomsday scenario.. half these nuclear nations don't even have ICBMs. Some like the UK is submarine based how the fuck is an AI going to launch that lol.

The us military plan of action was beyond stupid. Even casual people know nukes are stored and launched from cities so what good was eliminating other nations capital cities? They already knew the AI has control over the arsenals so destroying their cities would mean fuck all when Russia's nukes are in launch silos and mobile launchers.

I just couldn't get over how insanely billy Madison stupid this all was.

No lies detected, but I still enjoyed it.

 

[kunonabi]

Yeah, the plot makes no sense, especially in the third act, but it's an entertaining movie anyway which is enough to lift it over 2 and 3. According to interviews it went through some drastic changes in the edit from what they originally had in mind and you can certainly feel it.

 

[Jaybe]

I liked the two big set pieces, but the writing is something else. My full IMAX laughed out loud at a few of the line deliveries that weren't jokes, and especially at one particular quick death near the end.

 

[FullMetalx117]

Thought it was mid…in fact came out with a revelation - these movies all have the same plot! I appreciated the production values for sure.

Fallout remains my favorite and think this franchise should be put to rest for a while.

 

[Robot Carnival]

watched it last night. was the story stupid and makes shit sense? absolutely! did I enjoy it? yes I did! it's not the perfect ending but it's a good enough send-off for the series for me. the backdrops and the stunts are wonderful and they at least didn't disappoint me on those. oh, and I know Hayley Atwell is pretty... gifted, but when that scene came up (you know which one if you had watched it), I was like

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

watched it last night. was the story stupid and makes shit sense? absolutely! did I enjoy it? yes I did! it's not the perfect ending but it's a good enough send-off for the series for me. the backdrops and the stunts are wonderful and they at least didn't disappoint me on those. oh, and I know Hayley Atwell is pretty... gifted, but when that scene came up (you know which one if you had watched it), I was like

If the action was actually good and more of it, it could have made up for movie being terrible.

But for a MI film what action there was, was crap. Do we need to watch tom cruise swim for 20 minutes.

 

[EviLore]

Really clumsy first hour. Thought I was watching Xenogears Disc 2 for a while there with all the exposition dumps and scene changes with no connective tissue.

But once Tom gets to the water it's spectacular. No one does it like the Cruise Missile.

 

[SlimySnake]

Just saw this. Very well directed, just a bit too bloated but honestly I dont mind. Lots of trash on tv nowadays that takes 40-50 hours to conclude, i dont mind a well produced, well edited and acted blockbuster that goes for half an hour too long. If i was a critic, i would dock points for all the flashbacks, but im not. I like watching tom cruise on screen, sue me.

My biggest issue with the movie was that there are basically two action scenes and one of them is tom alone in a submarine. Fallout, and Dead reckoning had way better setpieces.

Angela Basset was the best actor in the movie. I wish they had given her character a little more to do. She does the right thing but a bit too late.

Rouge Nation is still my favorite in the series. I hope Christopher McQaurrie goes back and does something original like Usual Suspects or Edge of Tomorrow. He's a great director, but i feel like Tom is forcing him to direct these movies like video games, and he's a better writer/director than someone tom uses to churn out these movies. The submarine scene in Dead Reckoning is peak storytelling. This guy has the chops to be as good as Denis Villenvue and Nolan. He just needs to focus on storytelling instead of stunts.

 

[EviLore]

 

[DKehoe]

 

[fallingdove]

Really clumsy first hour. Thought I was watching Xenogears Disc 2 for a while there with all the exposition dumps and scene changes with no connective tissue.

But once Tom gets to the water it's spectacular. No one does it like the Cruise Missile.

Love the Xenogears reference and couldn't agree more.

I really wonder what was at play to create such an over-reliance on exposition and nonsensical plot devices. I can't help but feel Dead Reckoning (Part 1 + 2) would have been a very different, much more streamlined story if Rebecca Ferguson had stayed on and if the rumor of Hayley Atwell taking over for Tom Cruise had come true.

 

[DKehoe]

 

[EviLore]

Unfortunately:

 

[touchfuzzy]

Unfortunately:

This movie never had any chance of making money, at a $400million budget they would've needed a billion worldwide gross. The franchise previous high was $800million and the last movie (directly connecting to this one) pulled $600million.

I dunno why they suddenly thought Mission Impossible was gonna make Avengers money or something with these budgets, but here we are. A more modestly budget of 100-150 million and it would've done fine.

 

[DKehoe]

Unfortunately:

Despite what Spielberg said in the video above, as much of a success as Top Gun Maverick was it is still pretty much harder than ever to get people out to the cinema.

 

[SlimySnake]

Despite what Spielberg said in the video above, as much of a success as Top Gun Maverick was it is still pretty much harder than ever to get people out to the cinema.

yep. they used to do $10-11 billion a year before covid. now they top out at $8 billion. All because they thought they could make even more profits by switching to streaming, but like MS is finding out, streaming is a money sink and definitely not profitable.

Now they have cucked themselves by training their own consumers to wait for the movies to show up on streaming.

The theaters themselves didnt help matters. They switched to more comfortable seats, but refused to do anything about chatty audience members, phone users, and bratty kids. I pretty much only go watch movies when entire theater is almost empty and i still run into retards who keep tapping their foot like they are suffering from opiod withdrawal or bashing into my seat with their foot every few minutes. Put simply, the movie theater experience is more expensive than ever and it flat out fucking sucks.

p.s watched the midnight showing of oppenheimer and the entire theater was packed. they forgot to turn on the AC or maybe it broke. it was hotter than the desert after the nuclear test for nearly 3 hours. we were all sweating balls by the time the movie ended.

 

[Alcibiades]

This movie never had any chance of making money, at a $400million budget they would've needed a billion worldwide gross. The franchise previous high was $800million and the last movie (directly connecting to this one) pulled $600million.

I dunno why they suddenly thought Mission Impossible was gonna make Avengers money or something with these budgets, but here we are. A more modestly budget of 100-150 million and it would've done fine.

I think some of the budget issues for the last two movies had to do with unexpected COVID costs. Same thing happened to Black Adam and Fast X.

While I'm sure Paramount was hoping for a bigger box office for these last two, I don't think they had illusions about MCU-level success. I think they ultimately see this as a long-term investment they can milk for decades through VOD, steaming, and minor licensing deals. One of the reasons reboots and sequels are lucrative is it keeps the previous installments relevant. No doubt there must have been some boost to sales of previous films in the leadup to this release. Plus it's in their interest to keep Cruise happy.

My guess is high-end projections for both films were probably around $250 million domestic and $750 million worldwide (no source, just my speculation). Of course it didn't help that Dead Reckoning released right as Sound of Freedom had just taken the box office by surprise and then had Oppenheimer and Barbie hit a week after later (taking all the IMAX/Dolby screens away). Once your movie becomes priority #2 or #3, it's over when people are making less trips to the theater nowadays.

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

Hopefully Paramount moves up the Digital Release date. Currently scheduled to come out in mid-August, seems like a bad time to release.

Drop it soon! Make some money, paramount. Before the summer movies comes to an end.

 

[SkylineRKR]

I saw it today. For me this is the worst movie in the series. I liked Dead Reckoning, but sadly the sequel couldn't deliver. There is just a lack of action and set pieces, and a plot that takes way too long to advance. It has severe pacing issues. Gabriel was kind of sidelined and well,

Spoiler

his demise belongs in a slapstick movie.

Its the worst for me. MI2 had some John Woo sauce at least. 3 had PSH as bad guy and some fun action. FR has nothing of the sort.