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[Dzab]

Yeah, you can use scart. I use RGB component, personally.

For anyone following this project, it’s finally available for purchase. I’d recommend getting all the bells and whistles.

I spent $600 on my MiSTer a few years ago, and it’s been worth every penny. The fact that you can now get that for less than 1/3rd the price is absolutely absurd. Anyone interested in retro gaming should seriously consider getting one, it’s an absolute game changer. (Especially if you want to game on a CRT.)

Ah thanks, I would be using RGB (scart). I already have the main retro consoles with everdrives thankfully. So I'd be looking to use this for arcade games mainly.
Just seen in that video that CPS3 is absent

I'd like to try a lot of shmups on this thing, but I don't know how to check what cores or things even work correctly. Same with Killer Instinct.

 

[dudemcgrude]

Dzab , Check out this list for all the current arcade cores, more are added all the time. Anything already released tends to work extremely well, so you should be all set. The Mister discord is also a tremendous resource for all your random use cases and questions.

As for shmups, one thing to note is that some (most?) vertical shooters may require you to physically rotate the screen/crt with mister. I use my mine with the retrotink 4k and it can rotate the display from there, just a note. Personally, Ive been waiting for Taito's Halley's Comet. Used to play it while waiting for pizza, lol.

Check in with VGEsoterica 's youtube channel, he does a great job on posting the progress of Mister and other stuff including setups, configurations, etc.

 

[nkarafo]

Just get a Raspberry Pi, bro.

Ι'm an advocate of software emulation and i even prefer it over any Mister and analogue product.

But that's for accurate emulation only with the least amount of input lag. The Raspberry Pi can't handle those things and it's a big downgrade over FPGAs.

 

[Dzab]

Dzab , Check out this list for all the current arcade cores, more are added all the time. Anything already released tends to work extremely well, so you should be all set. The Mister discord is also a tremendous resource for all your random use cases and questions.

As for shmups, one thing to note is that some (most?) vertical shooters may require you to physically rotate the screen/crt with mister. I use my mine with the retrotink 4k and it can rotate the display from there, just a note. Personally, Ive been waiting for Taito's Halley's Comet. Used to play it while waiting for pizza, lol.

Check in with VGEsoterica 's youtube channel, he does a great job on posting the progress of Mister and other stuff including setups, configurations, etc.

Thanks, that list seems quite helpful.

Confusing though, surely CPS2 or Street Fighter 2 etc should be under the arcade cores? Maybe I'm using the site incorrectly.
Appreciate the discord link too, I'll definitely join and check that out.

Well damn, my crt cannot handle that lol. I would have thought the settings would have a way to rotate it.

Have been watching his stuff actually, seems pretty good.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

I tried Dodonpachi. That core, at least, has an option to rotate the screen.

I’ve been using the Mister Pi with the lamest setup ever.
Output resolution set at 640x480. HDMI out into a cheap HDMI-to-SCART converter and from there, SCART into a CRT I salvaged from one of my workplaces (definitely not the best CRT I have in the house).
The picture, converted in that way, is quite bad. It’s fuzzy like a composite signal, yet stable like the digital output signal it is (it’s not true analog, coming out of the HDMI port).

And I’m pretty much the happiest kid on the block.
Everything just works. On a CRT I don’t get the shimmering that I was getting on a 720p TV using filters. Excellent motion (still a digital picture though, so there’s some judder when moving the camera in games like Banjo-Kazooie), full screen, minimum lag. I’ve been enjoying it a lot. Sure, I may get a real analog cable to get the best picture, but those cables are quite expensive and I’d have to tinker further with the settings. Maybe in the future.

By the way, how do you set analog stick controls with the N64 core? Can you use the NSO N64 controller from Nintendo?

 

[Dacvak]

By the way, how do you set analog stick controls with the N64 core? Can you use the NSO N64 controller from Nintendo?

I’m pretty sure you can, but I can test mine tomorrow.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

We don’t seem to have a dedicated Mister thread, so bear with me if I use this one.

I’m having issues using the Mister Pi with a CRT TV (not a computer monitor, a regular TV). This is a European CRT, with 21-pin SCART inputs.

So far, I’d been using a cheap HDMI->SCART converter bought on Amazon. It does the job, but of course it does not output true RGB, being a cheap DAC. Also, the output image flickers like hell. Still, it gave me the benefits of digital output, ie, using this you can change the scaling of the image at will.

Wanting a better image, I purchased this VGA->SCART cable. Lo and behold, the output image looks fantastic, and the flicker is much, much less. But… I didn’t expect to have the scaling problems I’m having.

Two things are happening using the analog output:
1) there’s some massive overscan that cuts a non-negligible portion of the image on all sides, except the right side. This happens with all the cores I’ve tried, and there’s no in-core way to adjust the image. This effectively hinders gameplay.
2) outputting through the analog port means all the scaling options are disabled. Whatever type of scaling I choose, the image stays the same. Also, sub-240p consoles like GB and GBA output in a window, because their resolution is lower than that of home systems.

I genuinely didn’t expect this, but looking around on Reddit, I see these are common problems with using the analog video out. Problem is, there doesn’t seem to be a definitive solution, because there’s no Mister setting that can solve these issues at the source, and every CRT behaves in its own unique way.

Seeing this, I’m now wondering if going through a video chain like HDMI->VGA->SCART would allow me to keep all the perks of a digital output, and also get a good image on a CRT that doesn’t flicker like crazy. If this can be done, what adapters would be recommended?

Thanks to all the Mister owners who may be able to help me

 

[Spukc]

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Try this one for more help

Been a while i used my mister.. but i managed to get it working on a B&O telly using the vga like output cable converter to full rgb scart.

It also outputs the signal to the hdmi at the same time. Making the mister run 2 screens

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Join the MiSTer FPGA Discord Server!

The official Discord for users and developers of the MiSTer project, recreating classic computers, consoles and arcades. | 15507 members

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Try this one for more help

Been a while i used my mister.. but i managed to get it working on a B&O telly using the vga like output cable converter to full rgb scart.

It also outputs the signal to the hdmi at the same time. Making the mister run 2 screens

Outputting to 2 screens at once is simple:

My problem is very obvious here. Look at how much of the image on the CRT is lost outside the frame.

 

[Spukc]

Outputting to 2 screens at once is simple:



My problem is very obvious here. Look at how much of the image on the CRT is lost outside the frame.

That’s an easy fix. Well xD you need the manufacturer overide function on your telly.
Calibrate it.
On the B&O it was like hold enter press 5567 on remote. Tv guys used to have codes in a book to do this at home!

Good luck

 

[Spukc]

also you losing a little picture on overscan is super normal you just need to make in centre. The telly you have looks like a clone crt brand back in the day that menu border was left out on many cheap crt's