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MLB 2016 Regular Season Official Thread - Do Not Attempt to Ketchup
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H.Cornerstone
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Sigh, it's so hard being a Dbacks fan. Our front office + ownership have 0 clue.
The Shelby Miller trade will go down in history as one of the worst ever.
The Shelby Miller trade will go down in history as one of the worst ever.
lol apparently the Mariners have now been swept in a series by every AL West team
Ouch... Weren't y'all ahead in the standings for a long while?
sf2fanatic
Member
Doesn't help either when your fellow D back fans aren't going to the game. Yesterday only 14k for attendance? Grienke made the right choice.
DrForester
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Another night of Rockies Baseball...
Little Green Yoda
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It'd be nice to win some home games against teams not called the Brewers. 😞
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Posey with the SB...lol
Yes.
Then the Twins swept us at home (I had the joy of attending those games!) and then June happened. If we don't recapture late April/May magic again soon the season will be over. Texas won't be caught and the Wild Card will continue to slip away when we win 2 or 3 games out of ever 6.
A healthy and consistent rotation would do us wonders
I still think this team has the ability to get hot and make a run for a wild card spot late in the season, but it gets harder to believe after every sweep and every time they keeping digging their grave.
Silver Arrows
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I mean, chirps are nice and dandy, but do we really need to go down this road?
1st of his career, postseason included.
yankeehater
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Hopefully Franco can keep his hitting going against the Rockies. It is crazy how much better the Phil's offense has been lately.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
He looks safe...I mean they called him safe...umps are never wrong
http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/0/v12771297/atlsf-gm-1-posey-called-safe-on-steal-of-second
His state lines in AAA have been ridiculous. He's had some control issues, so he has a tendency to walk - but we'll see how he fairs in the MLB. He's got some nasty stuff, and is a strike out artist so I'm definitely excited. He probably has the highest ceiling out of Cole and Taillon.
H.Cornerstone
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To be fair, we are 15-32 at home. Can't blame anyone.
Silver Arrows
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Are we actually getting fans of other teams since I got banned?
Good god, this isn't Mets and Jays OT now?
Good god, this isn't Mets and Jays OT now?
CosmicQueso
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The A's are 36-49, 16.5 GB and only 1 game ahead of the shitbox Angels.
Dark, dark times.
Only when the Jays are on a winning streak. When they're not winning, all we get are the occasional Chewie posts being depressed about the Jays.
Dark, dark times.
Only when the Jays are on a winning streak. When they're not winning, all we get are the occasional Chewie posts being depressed about the Jays.
Silver Arrows
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I see nothing has changed then. Carry on.
Silver Arrows
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Sonny Gray getting the eyes of scouts across the league
Surely the A's management group isn't stupid enough to trade the one really good player currently on their roster, right? Especially to the Jays?
Surely the A's management group isn't stupid enough to trade the one really good player currently on their roster, right? Especially to the Jays?
Mr. Enigma
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After the awful way the A's traded Josh Donaldson, anything is possible with them.
Silver Arrows
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As much as Queso says otherwise, it's pretty obvious the A's got hosed on the Donaldson trade, at least in the short term.
I wonder how much Josh is happy he got out of there considering the downward trajectory that the A's are currently in.
User 479360
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How did an 8-8 pitcher take Estrada's place over 11-3 Happ or 9-1 Sanchez? What the fuck?
I don't know how to take that.
I don't know how to take that.
CosmicQueso
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The A's got absolutely shafted short term. That was never in debate from the minute the trade was made.
But when the primary guy coming back in the trade was in low A at the time, a bit tough to call it and outright all-time steal. Yeah, Lawrie was the headline, but Barreto was the real guy.
Graveman will be a 2-3 WAR starter this year, Barreto is doing... okay as a 20 year old in AA, Nolin is borked, and the two guys they got for Lawrie, well, one is struggling in A ball a bit this year after doing well last year and the other guy is an up and down in the bullpen.
Looking at the deal today, can't say it looks good at all for the A's to come out ahead. But, in 7 years? Barreto is likely to be a far more productive player than Donaldson will be. Of course, Donaldson might make a HOF case by then.
But Graveman is under control through 2020. If he can average 3 WAR over that time, that's 15 wins above over the course of the contract. Barreto can hopefully be a 20-30 WAR guy. Maybe the other guys in the deal get you 10 WAR combined over their time in Oakland.
So call it 40 WAR ballpark potential overall.
Donaldson is at 14 WAR since starting in TOR, and is under control until 2018. He can probably reach 40 WAR over the deal for the Jays.
Therefore, if Barreto can become a big league SS, and Graveman develops, and anything else in the deal pans out at all, then the A's can get to a wash on the deal.
Of course, nothing can replace a few trips to the playoffs, an MVP award, and being a fan favorite like Donaldson is when it comes to TV ratings, ticket sales and jersey sales.
So, high probability that the Jays come out ahead to signficantly ahead in the deal, but not a lock.
With Donaldson the trajectory isn't as downward, if it all. So, I'm guessing it wouldn't matter to him? He liked his time in Oakland, but of course he's happy to get paid.
Corran Horn
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Wait Pete Rose is suing John Dowd? The Barry Bonds replacement in the mvp baseball games?
oh wait there is another John Dowd...
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/16831410/pete-rose-files-defamation-lawsuit-john-dowd
oh wait there is another John Dowd...
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/16831410/pete-rose-files-defamation-lawsuit-john-dowd
PROh1bited
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W-L is the last thing you look at when analyzing a pitchers stats.
Are you apart of the Buck and Pat analogy that wins are all that matters?
brianjones
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User 479360
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Thanks for that. I know what I'm talking about.
Perhaps, but Sanchez also carries a lower ERA, a comparable WHIP and close strike out numbers. He's more deserving as a result.
Perhaps, but Sanchez also carries a lower ERA, a comparable WHIP and close strike out numbers. He's more deserving as a result.
Carpe Libertatem
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I think it might not be the *worst* thing - Kolten Wong probably gets to play every day now. Marp is definitely way way better than Wong, but it's not like we're moving to a AAAA player. Defense is definitely better at least.
I'm mostly just sad because Marp was having an MVP-caliber season.
Godzilla's Left Toe
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Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig
Harvey has symptoms consistent with TOS, Alderson said. Surgery is a 4 month rehab. But there's a non surgical option.
3:48 PM - 7 Jul 2016
Harvey has symptoms consistent with TOS, Alderson said. Surgery is a 4 month rehab. But there's a non surgical option.
3:48 PM - 7 Jul 2016
Corran Horn
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AgentChris
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Flores not in starting lineup. Nationals lucky as fuck tonight bois.
Silver Arrows
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Is Frozen still banned or has he committed seppuku?
User 479360
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America's anti-Jays bias strikes again with that Kluber pick.
Silver Arrows
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oh come the fuck on really are we going into this conspiracy theory level bullshit
Carpe Libertatem
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Corey Kluber has been one of the best pitchers in the AL, should've been on it over Estrada in the first place
CosmicQueso
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Nah. The fruit is too low hanging, even for me.
Carpe Libertatem
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Holy shit, the Padres just spent $22m on a 17 year old Cuban pitcher
Technically $11m, but they already broke the IFA limit so they have to pay another $11m in luxury tax
Technically $11m, but they already broke the IFA limit so they have to pay another $11m in luxury tax
User 479360
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He's 8-8. Both Estrada and Sanchez have better or comparable numbers, including much better win and loss ratios.
That spot should have been filled by another Blue Jay as a result.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I do notice how little representation the Jays get in American discussions/highlight reels about the MLB, because they're Canada's team.
Silver Arrows
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Gee, I wonder why.
I agree with Queso, this fruit is so low hanging it's nearly to the core of the Earth.
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