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MLB and MLBPA agree to new CBA, All-Star Game to no longer determine World Series HFA

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The new free agency/draft pick rules have the most impact of the entire list, and all anyone wants to talk about is the fucking all-star game. FFS.
 
The new free agency/draft pick rules have the most impact of the entire list, and all anyone wants to talk about is the fucking all-star game. FFS.

Right?

The luxury tax rises almost $20M less than you would except with just normal, 4% inflation over the course of the 5 years, and comes with way harsher penalties for going over. So basically baseball now has a salary cap and the cap is going to decrease every year. Not only that, but the performance factor in revenue sharing being removed means you could see non-luxury tax teams have their payrolls drop.

The international cap of $4.75M takes the maximum amount of spending down from about $200M to $142M. If you normalize the money spent to the fraction of current MLB players from LA versus the draft, the owners basically got all the cost savings of a draft, so even if the players hang their hat on players getting to choose where they sign, the money difference is negligible. (Maybe this will finally put to bed the ridiculous notion that the draft is for competitive balance though, since the second the owners couldn't get that process, they were perfectly happy to have players sign where they want and just not pay them much of anything.)

The players get a few extra off days - though this might be a win for the owners as well since a longer season means more opportunities for national broadcasts - and a slightly neutered QO that will affect the 5 guys who get one, but don't have draft pick compensation attached. There's a 10% bump in minimum salary over the next 3 years, once again, less than inflation.

Add on to this the curbing of teams going into Asia to pick up any young talent whatsoever since the ceiling until these players are 25 is now $6M instead of the $250M they could potentially get is sickening. It means we're not seeing talent developed properly on any level and missing out on critical years of bright young stars in other nations playing here.


The players should not ratify this deal. The success the MLB has had should make this CBA more player-friendly, and it does the opposite.
 

ReAxion

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The players should not ratify this deal. The success the MLB has had should make this CBA more player-friendly, and it does the opposite.

You know players don't care about anyone non-union, even if they will become union. They get extra seats on spring training buses and a home clubhouse chef. F everyone else.
 
Cash incentives seems like a stupidly easy way for other sports to make their All-Star games relevant, especially basketball.
 
You know players don't care about anyone non-union, even if they will become union. They get extra seats on spring training buses and a home clubhouse chef. F everyone else.

Even the guys that ARE union aren't getting a good deal from this. The players are getting hosed.
 

Fox318

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Bringing pitchers back into the game in extra innings sounds like a massive injury risk. Maybe each team could have some minor league prospects hang around for emergency extra inning use. That could be cool.

Thats a fantastic solution.

Fans wouldn't be upset to not see them in the game and you could have a few arms in the lockeroom or pen that could be brought out just in case.
 

Josh5890

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I'm glad this was settled without a lockout. Pretty funny to think that since MLB lost the 1994 World Series and was notorious for work stoppages, there has been three NHL lockouts (including an entire season lost), two NBA lockouts, and an NFL lockout (which I don't really count since nothing of value was lost).
 
this deal doesn't seem too player friendly, why would the players agree to this? I'm glad there won't be a international draft but a hard cap might screw them anyway.
Baseball is still healthy as fuck. best run league, no major controversies, coming off a tremendous post-season, leader in technology.
 
I like how the news centers around the one thing that affects basically nobody, the result of the All-Star game.

Now the home advantage will go the team with the best record, which will most likely be the team playing in the weakest division. Oh, well. I guess it will balance things out.

The Marlins are hosting the next All-Star game. Makes perfect sense.
 

rekameohs

Banned
Remember when the WS switched home field advantage between leagues every year regardless of record?

lol

The luxury tax stuff is really interesting; I'll take a closer look at that later.
 
The new free agency/draft pick rules have the most impact of the entire list, and all anyone wants to talk about is the fucking all-star game. FFS.

Right. Reduced compensation draft picks for losing players to free agency which probably means veteran players will be traded in their last year instead. A raise of a weak luxury tax system that affects basically nobody. Hard limits on international free agent signings rather than a draft. Players will now be tested for HGH.
 

GoutPatrol

Forgotten in his cell
I'm glad this was settled without a lockout. Pretty funny to think that since MLB lost the 1994 World Series and was notorious for work stoppages, there has been three NHL lockouts (including an entire season lost), two NBA lockouts, and an NFL lockout (which I don't really count since nothing of value was lost).

The most important labor disagreement in the NFL probably was the ref strike.
 
September expanded roster size is so stupid. These are the most important games for a lot of teams in the hunt.

The games are completely meaningless for other teams already out other than every win might drop them in the draft order. The young players brought up are always doing their best to impress and many post much better numbers in September than in the spring the following year. Nobody puts bad players on their 40 rosters just to lose games.

Ultimately, it's the 2 wild cards system that keep competitiveness in the last month.
 

shira

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Should go 81 games. Nobody cares for 160+ games plus playoffs goddamit.

It's like throwing a baseball 100 mph every week all summer is bad for your arm or something

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Should go 81 games. Nobody cares for 160+ games plus playoffs goddamit.

It's like throwing a baseball 100 mph every week all summer is bad for your arm or something

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You...

You do realize that chart goes up for a reason right? TJS saves careers that used to end prematurely because their elbows would go and that would be that.
 

RBH

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Home-field advantage in the World Series will no longer be decided by which league wins the All-Star Game. Instead, World Series game 1, 2, 6, and 7 will be played in the ballpark of the pennant-winner with the better record.
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You...

You do realize that chart goes up for a reason right? TJS saves careers that used to end prematurely because their elbows would go and that would be that.

Besides that pitchers used to throw way more pitches and innings. Some people even argue that throwing more would decrease the injury risk.
 
Besides that pitchers used to throw way more pitches and innings. Some people even argue that throwing more would decrease the injury risk.

A lot of issues with pitching is people being taught bad mechanics. Kids can throw 98 with high effort deliveries that strain them, or throw 94-95 with consistent, repeatable mechanics.
 

Supast4r

Junior Member
Good. I get why they did it in the first place, but it is just not fair.

As a Cleveland fan, I was happy the Indians had it this year due to the ASG, but it should be changed. Best record gets HFA, it only makes sense.

As a Cubs fan, we would have lost if there was HFA since the Cubs are a better American League team and since Wrigley Field pressure was too much for young players.
 
For sure, if the cubbies had home field they would have lost without God Schawber.

Hopefully he doesnt break something this year :)
 
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