EdReedFan20
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Doubt it, the franchise (several name changes) has been there since 1901.
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MLB Expansion concept
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Doubt it, the franchise (several name changes) has been there since 1901.
BFIB
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Card carrying members of #BFIB down there.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Most new parks that have been built in the last 15 or so years are in the 35-40k range.
Louisville is a hard sell due to its proximity to Cinny.
Cleveland will never move. The Indians have been around since 1901.
Correct, which is good. But there are still those mega stadiums that have tens of thousands of empty seats every night. Even Atlanta is downsizing with their new stadium. Colorado certainly doesn't need a 50K stadium.
nillapuddin
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good point, yeah
you take that back!
I know, it hurts me to think that Kentuckians wouldnt be Reds fans, but I think the city would be good for it. Especially if they were in a different league, you could still cheer for both
nillapuddin
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Okay, heres my pseudo realistic map
Substitutes:
San Antonio; for either Memphis/Nashville, New Orleans
Charlotte; for all those + Louisville
heres my, NeverGunnaHappenInAMillionYears Map
Substitutes:
San Antonio; for either Memphis/Nashville, New Orleans
Charlotte; for all those + Louisville
heres my, NeverGunnaHappenInAMillionYears Map
EdReedFan20
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Okay, heres my pseudo realistic map
Substitutes:
San Antonio; for either Memphis/Nashville, New Orleans
Charlotte; for all those + Louisville
heres my, NeverGunnaHappenInAMillionYears Map
Not sure the O's/Nats would agree to be in the same division (or league for that matter). They're too close to be actual divisional rivals. It'd be no different with the Yankees and Mets. Being in different leagues is how the close proximity works.
nillapuddin
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Really? thats weird.
edit: added about NYY and NYM
yeah I got you then.
okay, sub in Pittsburgh
EdReedFan20
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I think it'd be fun to have Pittsburgh as a rival to the O's for two reasons. 1: It'd mirror the Ravens/Steelers rivalry and 2: The O's/Pirates played each other in the 72 and 79 World Series (PIT won both). Some Oriole fans hold a grudge against the Pirates.
timetokill
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How's that bullpen so far this season?
... Padres-esque?
nillapuddin
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Why is it you say that?
Im sure the Padres could use a DH in their huge ass park, but why so definitive?
Merriweather
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I would guess the Yankees & Red Sox would want to stay in the same division as the Rays because of all their Florida residing fanbase.
TheSecondSpitter
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Works for Texas and Houston.
Been to Montreal lately? I guess no. There's Expos shit sold everywhere.
Calgary has zero baseball pedigree. Zero.
GoldenEye 007
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Miami won't be going anywhere with that new monstrosity of a park that was jus built. Maybe move some teams that haven't won a title in the last few decades or century.
As a San Antonio native I'd pass on the mlb tbh. Nelson Wolff who is a well known figure and retired judge and former mayor has been pushing for a downtown AAA stadium for a bit now. The brewers triple a affiliate would come to town if the stadium is built is what is being reported. I'd personally rather get an mls team here but that's just me.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Hmmm...
Not quite, looks like you're more Phlllies/Cleveland-esque than Padres-esque! And the Pads have been at Coors already!
TheSecondSpitter
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I was just about to post this. Miami needs new ownership. 'Tis all.
Vestal
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Still can't believe there is not a professional baseball Team in Puerto Rico. While the economy in PR might be shitting itself, PR is one of the biggest producers of baseball stars, and puertoricans love anything basball.
PR has 2 national pass time sports, Boxing and Baseball. End of story
PR has 2 national pass time sports, Boxing and Baseball. End of story
EdReedFan20
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They are close, but nowhere as close as BAL is to WAS and NYY is to NYM. Each example is in the same TV market. Houston and Texas are entirely different TV markets.
TheSecondSpitter
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Can P.Ricans afford to buy tickets that support a circa $60m payroll?
How will they entice American FAs to live in PR for 6 months/year?
Does PR have a MLB standard stadium?
I believe they both share all of Texas as their TV market.
edit: Yup
The Albatross
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I'd be fine with it. There's 162 games in an MLB season, so teams will still play plenty of their interdivisional rivals... Like the Red Sox and Rays have formed a fairly bad blood rivalry over the last 15 years, and they've turned into scrappy games, and while TB would be out of the East, I'm sure they'd still play a few series a year.
Not completely zero. Calgary supported triple-A for many years, but yeah, Montreal is really the only other Canadian option. It would be interesting to see Vancouver try, but I don't think it's realistic.
The loss of triple-A baseball in western Canada is a bit of a heartbreaker for me. Not unlike the loss of the Expos, there was a whole lot of baseball politics involved with that.
tiggerkiddo
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I disagree with the idea of giving New Orleans a major league team...Vancouver seems like a better option.
TheSecondSpitter
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NO is a one sport town and have the ficklest fans in the country.
mightynine
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As much as I'd love to have a MLB team here in New Orleans, the AAA team here doesn't exactly light attendance numbers on fire (though new ownership is trying to change that).
Also, I think the entertainment dollar would be stretched thin with a NFL, NBA, and MLB team in the city.
San Antonio makes more sense if you're looking for an expansion city in the South.
Also, I think the entertainment dollar would be stretched thin with a NFL, NBA, and MLB team in the city.
San Antonio makes more sense if you're looking for an expansion city in the South.
EdReedFan20
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Okay, after seeing so many people say New Orleans was a bad location, I replaced it with Nashville.
tiggerkiddo
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Which is why I find it hilarious when they try to give New Orleans another sports team. Just realize Saints and college football rule that area and move on.
EdReedFan20
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If they went to that structure, they'd have to drop the wild card entirely, or institute a first round bye. You can't have one wild card, as that would mean 5 teams would make the playoffs. Who would the 5th team play? Two, would make things even worse, unless a bye was introduced for the top-2 teams in each league (a la, the NFL, which would have the same structure).
CosmicQueso
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Yeah. why not Austin, TX?
Booming, population growth, lots of industry/corporate sponsor opportunities, young/hip.
EDIT: Beaten by JP Morosi at Fox Sports
Which locations make the most sense for MLB expansion?
If they went to four divisions then losing the Wild Card is a foregone conclusion. I would be fine with it. The last thing I would want is a dumb play-in game with the worst division champ and a wild card team.
Hmmm...
Not quite, looks like you're more Phlllies/Cleveland-esque than Padres-esque! And the Pads have been at Coors already!
Minus the Rule 5 guy left out to die in garbage time hauling a 21 ERA, it's 2.33.
EdReedFan20
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Unless they institute a bye, though I'm not sure that would be a great option. Too much down time could be an issue for the top-teams. They'd get cold and being the best regular season teams could be a detriment. So, yeah, dropping the wild card might be the only course of action.
This is true. Our local Royals farm team moved to a new stadium with much less seating and they actually started to sell out and won 3 championships in a row.... they couldn't fill Rosenblatt at all, which was easily filled and then some for the College World Series.
CosmicQueso
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No offense, but this is just so wrong.
None taken, but I refuse to care about anything outside of playoffs if teams are going to play each other twice in one day. I don't have the endurance to watch baseball. I lived in the damn shadow of Rosenblatt and the CWS itself. That was the only one I could do regularly.
When you have 162 games in a season, it's hard for any individual game to matter mathematically.
sf2fanatic
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After watching last night's game Oakland may need a relocation. Empty stadium and barely a week in. Also as far as gambling concerns in Vegas, they can just not add any of the Vegas games on the list.
Individual games have never mattered mathematically for baseball, and you aren't expected to watch every single game, which is part of the reason why there are day games when everyone is at work.
Due to the randomness of baseball (the worst team can easily sweep the best team, a shitty team can overperform for a month or two, etc), it takes a large number of games to figure out who the best teams are. It's a marathon.
The lowest the schedule would ever get cut down to is 154 games since that was the traditional length before the expansion era began (due to the obsession with comparing stats over the years, it will never go below that). Even so, I highly doubt owners would willingly give up the revenue from 4 home games + TV money.
Honest question though - would those 8 games even make a difference to anyone who doesn't watch because they feel the season is too long? I feel like it wouldn't make a difference but I could be wrong.
TheSecondSpitter
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No thanks..... I don't want to see that spaceship they play in more than once every 3 years.
Sad. MLB is intent to run the A's out of town. Just like they did the Expos.
CosmicQueso
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Sure. Random really cold Tuesday night against the Angels is the proper metric with which to measure the reasons a team should be moved or not.
bonesmccoy
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nillapuddin
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