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MMA |OT2| - Thread of Athletes, Fighters, Personalities, and Sports Entertainment

industrian

will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
I think I may have jacked my hand punching in sparring yesterday. :( Always fun.

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Brazil fail

They should have taken the UFC logos off Anderson's gloves or removed them altogether. It looks like the boxshot to a Sony-published PS3 game with the repetition.

Plus, Faber should look into getting that growth on his chin/neck area seen to.
 
Front Row Brian called that shit awhile ago.

https://twitter.com/#!/FrontRowBrian/status/194972196639219713


I'm starting to think my theory about him being really good buddies with Dana and Joe is the truth.
Dude just knows a lot of people and is quite the schmoozer. Funny thing is he talks a lot like Quentin Tarantino, lol. If he was cool with Dana and Joe Silva he wouldn't have given up that info he had about Andy throwing a fit about the venue change for the Sonnen fight. And even then, Brian's not-too-reliable source for this specific info was Chael, who he was hanging with for most of the time in ATL and Sonnen was the one who hooked the dude up with his UFC 145 ticket. Also, he had some inside info about another fighter at the ill-fated 146 presser who was scared shitless of the surprise drug test because he had just finished cycling off 10 days prior that he wouldn't have been able to get from Dana or Joe Silva I don't think.

Basically if you go to enough of these events and kick it at the hotel where all the fighters and everyone are at you can basically meet everybody, it's not too hard to establish a good network of sources that feed you info. But yeah Brian is becoming the "Little Finger" of MMA pretty much.
 

GungHo

Single-handedly caused Exxon-Mobil to sue FOX, start World War 3
I believe his nick name is "THE ALL-AMERICAN."

That should inform you on what is specialty is.
Drinking bad beer isn't a specialty.

Except Kongo will probably try to wrestle, and then end up getting subbed once he takes it to the ground.
I don't get Kongo. If you read his writing, he doesn't seem like he's as dumb as a bag of hammers, but damned if he doesn't turn his brain off as soon as that cage door shuts.
 

yacobod

Banned
sien, for OT3, maybe you can expand on what i did with OT2 with legendary fighters, you can include a section for legendary camps:

CHUTE BOX
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Lion's Den

MFS

Brazilian Top Team

Hammer House

etc
 
Back from media black out now that I finally saw 145.

Poly - are you going to see Sonnen/Silva in Vegas?
I'm trying to get my flight changed from Jul 4th weekend to memorial day weekend as well as get my UFC 146 ticket refunded.. As long as I can pull that off I definitely will be going to 148 in Vegas.

It's funny how one fight can make a card go from pretty shitty to fuckawesome and vice versa.

EDIT: fuck that, AA wants to charge me $150 to change a $250 flight.

Yeah I'll be attending 146 and staying home for 148 :(
 

TheNatural

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industrian

will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
At the rate Jones is going through the division, Liddell may be the only option in a year or so.
 
Poly, you have the UFC All Access or fight club or whatever that lets you buy tickets early? I'm wondering if I should even try to get tickets to 148 without that. I just want to go to one show and that seems like the one to go to. Vegas from Hawaii is always cheap so that's not an issue. Just dunno about getting a decent seat without paying scalper price.
 
I'm trying to get my flight changed from Jul 4th weekend to memorial day weekend as well as get my UFC 146 ticket refunded.. As long as I can pull that off I definitely will be going to 148 in Vegas.

It's funny how one fight can make a card go from pretty shitty to fuckawesome and vice versa.

EDIT: fuck that, AA wants to charge me $150 to change a $250 flight.

Yeah I'll be attending 146 and staying home for 148 :(

Bummer

I just want to go to one show and that seems like the one to go to.

Ditto

At the rate Jones is going through the division, Liddell may be the only option in a year or so.

I'd definitely watch it just for the entertainment value. Liddell obviously wouldn't have a chance in the world but it would be fun to see how long he could last.
 
Poly, you have the UFC All Access or fight club or whatever that lets you buy tickets early? I'm wondering if I should even try to get tickets to 148 without that. I just want to go to one show and that seems like the one to go to. Vegas from Hawaii is always cheap so that's not an issue. Just dunno about getting a decent seat without paying scalper price.
Yeah I am a Fight Club member. Go to UFCFightClub.com and sign up, you pay a fee for a year worth of early ticket access. This also gets you into the Q&A prior to weigh ins which also gets you better seats to said weigh ins than the general public. For an event like 148 it will be worth it because it's quite possible it could sell out just on Fight Club sales alone and you would be paying more on StubHub anyways.

As for hotels in Vegas, the Hooters hotel and casino is right across from the MGM and is dirt cheap in relative terms, I'd suggest getting a room there.

As for seat selection at the MGM when you get your ticket, I recommend you go to the price point that is somewhere around $300 and then pick the upper level. This should put you in the front row of the upper level in dead center which is one of the best seats in the house. It's where I sat for UFC 132 and it's also where I'm sitting for 146.
 

Heel

Member
sien, for OT3, maybe you can expand on what i did with OT2 with legendary fighters, you can include a section for legendary camps:

Haha while these photos are awesome I decided to keep the OT3 lightweight and functional. The only thing I did that was extraneous was a top 10 Bad MMA promotions, which basically serves as "what else is there besides the UFC?" to anyone who cares to know.


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TheNatural

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TheNatural

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LOL poor baby Sonnen, can't handle the heat from Brazilians:

The greatest anticipation regarding the press conference held by the UFC this tuesday, in Rio de Janeiro, was about wether or not Chael would have the courage to talk about Brazil the way he does in the USA, and how he would react to the questions from local journalists. The trash talker was clearly not intimidated and said he used to see brazilian children "playing in the mud" through his home's window. But his reaction to provocations from the press wasn't quite nice.

During one on one interviews after the press conference, Sonnen was approached by two comedians and got irritated with the hard time one of them had speaking English. This same person asked him for an autograph and gave him a shock pen. The american broke the pen, an attitude he would later regret.

"I shouldn't have done that. My emotions got the best of me", he admitted while grabbing a cup of coffee in a reserved room, after the one on ones.

Later, Sonnen had tense moments during exclusive interviews with select media outlets. During a TV interview, the American dodged a question about Anderson Silva's weaknessess and got nervous when pressured to answer. Later still, while talking to a newspaper journalist, the trash talker questioned his work ethics and interrupted the interview when he brought up Sonnen's positive test following his first bout with Anderson, in august 2010 - Sonnen had presented elevated levels of testosterone and was issued an almost year long suspension.

"This interview is over", said Chael Sonnen, while getting up and refusing to take a picture for the newspaper. He was about to leave the room when UFC PR people told him there was still an interview left. He turned back, sat down and proceeded with the last interview like nothing happened.

Chael has problems strattling the line between kayfabe and real, and when to act one way or the other. Then he gets al upset when people don't play along with his WWE act and brings up something that offends him.
 

Heel

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Media coming to press conferences with shock pens.

Shock pens.

Maybe they should ask him to smell their rose and have it squirt water on him while they're at it.
 

TheNatural

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Honestly I believe that's all part of the kayfabe.

I don't think it is. I've seen interviews where he does the same thing, he doesn't want get forced into a "real" response.

There's a reason why someone is a heel in wrestling, and can keep being a heel. It's because it's scripted. There are certain things you can't say to be a heel because it's out of line, but it doesn't go that far because it's scripted.

In hyping a fight, people can bring up Chael's past and shit and get him rattled. What is he going to do? Be a heel and say there's nothing wrong with roiding and get him in trouble with Dana or the NSAC? Is he going to be a heel with his real estate fraud and get himself in trouble admitting to something?

That's the problem. He wants to play the heel but is easily rattled because people can bring up real shit he's fucked up on and he has no response because he can't play the heel with that. So he says "this interview is done" - the best way he can play the "heel" in that situation, but also because he knows he can't answer it and runs off.
 

Heel

Member
I don't think it is. I've seen interviews where he does the same thing, he doesn't want get forced into a "real" response.

There's a reason why someone is a heel in wrestling, and can keep being a heel. It's because it's scripted. There are certain things you can't say to be a heel because it's out of line, but it doesn't go that far because it's scripted.

In hyping a fight, people can bring up Chael's past and shit and get him rattled. What is he going to do? Be a heel and say there's nothing wrong with roiding and get him in trouble with Dana or the NSAC? Is he going to be a heel with his real estate fraud and get himself in trouble admitting to something?

That's the problem. He wants to play the heel but is easily rattled because people can bring up real shit he's fucked up on and he has no response because he can't play the heel with that. So he says "this interview is done" - the best way he can play the "heel" in that situation, but also because he knows he can't answer it and runs off.

Natch, honestly if anything you're proving that Chael is an excellent heel. Now tell us how badly you want him to lose.
 

TheNatural

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Natch, honestly if anything you're proving that Chael is an excellent heel. Now tell us how badly you want him to lose.

He's not excellent because he can get rattled easily. Give me a 10 minute interview, and I guarantee I could out kayfabe and out troll Sonnen.

I'm Hollywood Hogan level, and you're applauding David Flair's heel work.
 

Heel

Member
Considering Chael has haters analyzing his every action and word uttered in public I'd say he's getting the job done better than anyone in Sports Entertainment today. They want to see him bleed and knocked unconcious. That's real heat.

Even Jon Jones is doing a better job, possibly unintentionally.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
The indignation of AstroLad coming into the thread trying to claim a piece of crow is completely fucking laughable. NOBODY predicted Rashad was going to win that fight.

hm i don't even remember what i said, and don't really feel like looking it up, but i'm pretty sure even i don't think lowly enough of WARSHOGUN-GAF to think that they'd be stupid enough to pick rashad. maybe not i dunno. was probably more focused on the usual jones post-fight hater bs
 

TheNatural

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Considering Chael has haters analyzing his every action and word uttered in public I'd say he's getting the job done better than anyone in Sports Entertainment today. They want to see him bleed and knocked unconcious. That's real heat.

Even Jon Jones is doing a better job, possibly unintentionally.

I hate Chael because his fighting style is BORING. I give him credit for being able to talk his way into being a main event fighter, it's something Fitch couldn't do.

I hope he loses and gets the shit beat out of him, not because he talks, because I don't want to see him lay on someone for 4 rounds with pitter patter punches and grappling transitions and then hear about how he 'beat someones ass' from his fanbase.

I'm also more amazed at people who love Chael because he can talk like a 'rassler', even though they're being hypocritical getting on other guys who grapplefuck guys for 5 rounds. Chael's no different. The Bocek fight this past weekend basically sums up Chael Sonnen's fighting style. I really don't want to see that shit, no matter how much someone talks or doesn't talk.
 

Heel

Member
Jones was on twitter asking if anyone knew Hendo's reach.

Even Jon Jones is doing a better job, possibly unintentionally intentionally.

I hate Chael because his fighting style is BORING. I give him credit for being able to talk his way into being a main event fighter, it's something Fitch couldn't do.

I hope he loses and gets the shit beat out of him, not because he talks, because I don't want to see him lay on someone for 4 rounds with pitter patter punches and grappling transitions and then hear about how he 'beat someones ass' from his fanbase.

I'm also more amazed at people who love Chael because he can talk like a 'rassler', even though they're being hypocritical getting on other guys who grapplefuck guys for 5 rounds. Chael's no different. The Bocek fight this past weekend basically sums up Chael Sonnen's fighting style. I really don't want to see that shit, no matter how much someone talks or doesn't talk.

You have to admit that Chael has way more heat than someone like Fitch. His fight style helps his cause, but his mic skills put him over the top. I think the fact that it's corny enrages people even more, lol.
 

yacobod

Banned
Chael Sonnen winning is going to make for a glorious 4th of July.

The heat and fireworks in OT3 following Sonnen's win is going to rival the fallout of Diaz/Conduit.
 

Heel

Member
Chael Sonnen winning is going to make for a glorious 4th of July.

Absolutely, friend. I can't wait.

Hopefully Chael refuses the rubber match in Brazil and requests that it takes place in the mean streets of West Linn. Even better, refuses to fight Anderson altogether. Imagine that heat.
 

TheNatural

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Even Jon Jones is doing a better job, possibly unintentionally intentionally.



You have to admit that Chael has way more heat than someone like Fitch. His fight style helps his cause, but his mic skills put him over the top. I think the fact that it's corny enrages people even more, lol.

That's what I was just saying. He's Fitch but can talk, that's basically it. One guy Dana couldn't wait to put in this fight, and the other guy Dana would borderline avoid even existed in the UFC despite a ridiculous win streak.

Fitch has no heat, he's just there, and he's not exciting.

I'm not adverse to shit talking, I think it actually adds interest in things, but I'm just honestly sick of this shit with the UFC because it's always manufactured. You know the cycle, after this shit, you know we'll be getting the Shamrock "we made a lot of money" act like Jones and Evans this past weekend if Sonnen loses.

I guess that's the one up advantage boxing has on UFC though is the sideshow. It's manufactured, but guys also really don't like each other. If Sonnen is going to shit talk, go all out and start glassing some fools or don't do it at all.

If Silva wins, you know we'll get the Shamrock shit. Sonnen will give credit to Anderson, say all he really wanted is for him to show up and that's why he talked and he did so he has no beef with him, etc.

They just hyped up MMA's "Ali-Frazier" - but after that fight Ali was still shit talking about how Frazier was the one in the hospital and he was fine and it went on. In the UFC we get "hay maybe we can be friends it was all talk."

I'm just sick of the manufactured stuff, that's all. Sonnen is pure manufactured and he's not even exciting to want to see him win.
 
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