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Modern Vintage Gamer: Online DRM has ruined Gran Turismo 7
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
GT7 did not need to be always online. It's a dumb decision.
Shifty1897
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You can't even save the game without an internet connection. On top of that, the game's economy is straight up broken after you complete the cafe missions. Credit payout slows to a trickle, what's worse, the latest update actually reduces by half the payout of some of the high payout races people were using to grind money for cars. Everything is pushing you toward micro transactions. As it stands, you would need to spend $200 in real world money to buy the most expensive car in the game.
I blame the reviewers for this one. The media should have called out the broken economy and always online DRM and reduced the review score to a 4 or 5 until it was fixed.
I blame the reviewers for this one. The media should have called out the broken economy and always online DRM and reduced the review score to a 4 or 5 until it was fixed.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Especially F2P style GaaS sold at full price as if it's a SP game.
kingfey
Banned
They are making the same mistakes, which MS did after x360.
Its like these companies don't understand what made them popular in the 1st place.
Can't really blame the media on this one because the MTX wasn't active until the day reviewers posted their reviews and moved on to the next game they were being used as a PR mouthpiece for.
Epic Sax CEO
Banned
But it seems easy to fix.
With the audience GT has with a bit of pressure they could get it changed.
Not all games, it's a Polyphony's decision.
With the audience GT has with a bit of pressure they could get it changed.
Not all games, it's a Polyphony's decision.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I hate this new trend. Everyone learnt the wrong lesson from Battlefront 2 and now just hides the MTX shit until after the review cycle.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Nah, GaaS done well, can be amazing. This is predatory GaaS. Look at Horizon 5, it's overly generous with credits and vehicles, and is constantly getting new content, and doesn't require an online connection.
Windle Poons
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
I did say this in the OP about how are people going to be when the servers are down and I said which of course they will be. Now I just need those 6 lottery numbers.
Shifty1897
Member
That makes more sense, thanks for letting me know. Though I think maybe reviewers should go back and adjust the score, I know this has been done for games in the past.
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Yautja_Warrior
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I wouldn't say it's totally ruined the game, the core game is still excellent, it's just very annoying if the servers go down and you can't play it. They really should make the single player mode work offline just in case issues like this happen.
Doubt. The game checks the api all the fucking time. If your connection merely blips you're kicked out
They should go back and adjust their score then.
Gt5 had offline saves. You can even hack your save for millions of credits
Unknown?
Member
The in game economy wasn't different though. Why do you think no one complained about earning credits?
I honestly doubt any reviewer finished all of the Cafe missions before reviewing it.
Goalus
Member
I actually have to compliment Sony here.
Because it shows how utterly pointless and outdated the established review procedure is nowadays.
If reviewers can't be bothered to replay and reevaluate the games every eight weeks and possibly adjust their score for at least one year, they shouldn't be doing reviews at all.
Unknown?
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Even if they did, it isn't like the credits just stop coming. It's still relatively easy to earn credits even with some of them nerfed. GT has always been a grind fest.
They couldn't even be bothered to rereview GT Sport after 5 years which is more than double the game it was at launch.
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Credits seriously dry up once you finish the Cafe missions.
Unknown?
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Nah cafe missions main benefit is handing out cars like candy but the actual races don't reward that much compared to the events.
Not like this
Why Gran Turismo 7’s Latest Update Has Outraged Fans
Gran Turismo 7 players will be waking up today to some rather unwelcome news. In the brief period during which the latest update was available it was revealed that, for many of the best-earning races in the game, credit payouts have now been slashed -- by more than half in some cases -- dramatically
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Goalus
Member
What I suggested could be both negative and positive for a game, yes.
Sea of Thieves is another example, and I think IGN re-reviewed it at least once.
kikii
Member
yet an another thread of this, and same ppl comes here crying same stuffs which they have done alredy in those other threads, easy solution, if u dont like teh game dont play it then, nothing is locked behind real monies 
tho im not sure did i saw some green lambo on store for 2.49€ but im pretty sure its there, no idea can u get it in game via PLAYING
tho im not sure did i saw some green lambo on store for 2.49€ but im pretty sure its there, no idea can u get it in game via PLAYING
Nothing is locked, you don't have to buy anything, always online is no problem. Is it a mantra? Do you have to tell yourself that every day?yet an another thread of this, and same ppl comes here crying same stuffs which they have done alredy in those other threads, easy solution, if u dont like teh game dont play it then, nothing is locked behind real monies
tho im not sure did i saw some green lambo on store for 2.49€ but im pretty sure its there, no idea can u get it in game via PLAYING
The highest race payout is 70,000 for a 10 minute race.yet an another thread of this, and same ppl comes here crying same stuffs which they have done alredy in those other threads, easy solution, if u dont like teh game dont play it then, nothing is locked behind real monies
tho im not sure did i saw some green lambo on store for 2.49€ but im pretty sure its there, no idea can u get it in game via PLAYING
To afford a $2M car, you'd need to grind that same race for FIVE HOURS.
stranno
Member
Gran Turismo 5 came out 12 years ago.
Ammogeddon
Member
The 30hr outage is a prime example of why single player content shouldn't be online. Being locked out of a game you've paid good money for is a joke.
Kusarigama
Member
Same nonsense with MK11, Without internet can't save. All this inconvenience just because they are selling currency based micro transactions. Just let us enjoy our games how we want.
Unknown?
Member
Yeah that's a bit crazy but I'm not worried. I'm betting they add daily races with login bonuses like they did in previous games. If things haven't changed in a year I'll be concerned but right now just enjoying the game and could care less.
kingfey
Banned
10 min race isn't bad. But that bad thing would be the finishing rewards. How is the 1st vs 5th rewards differ?
These rewards will tell us how much we need to grind to get that $2m credit.
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
So it's double confirmed that Don Matrick is at Polyphony
Unknown?
Member
Wonder how many complaining here have gamepass? It'd be quite ironic.
purpletentacle
Member
this. i know arrogant Sony is a tired meme at this point, but there is a lot of truth to it. shit like what's happens to GT7 and charging players 10 dollars to upgrade to a next-gen version will add up. good will only lasts so long.
kingfey
Banned
Their 10 Gaas games would be their test now. If they fuck up those games, their fans won't be happy.
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kikii
Member
play lower ones which are faster, or just dont play the game at all ^^, nothing going to change if u cry here on forums, sometimes i just dont understand this gen z? i think its called that
This is what happens when devs and publishers sneak in their always on and and "life services".
Remember when Microsoft was hit by a backlash when revealing the Xbox One back then with the need to connect to the internet every 24h? This is what the publishers wanted all along. Everyone. Sony and every other greedy corporation. But now publishers realised, hey, we don't need to do this on a system-wide level, just sneak in a game every now and then and probe the reaction. If this gets a pass and not a shitstorm and review bombing by media outlets and people, then we'll see more and more cases like this in the future. Because ultimately it's what they want; they want full control over usage and usage data and make you dependable on their service so they can tailor it exactly so they can squeeze out every last dollar.
What no singleplayer game/part ever needs: dailies, log-in bonuses, loot boxes/packs, internet connection. If a singleplayer portion of a game has any of these this should be a red flag and pointed out so by everyone.
The current development is really pissing me off.
Remember when Microsoft was hit by a backlash when revealing the Xbox One back then with the need to connect to the internet every 24h? This is what the publishers wanted all along. Everyone. Sony and every other greedy corporation. But now publishers realised, hey, we don't need to do this on a system-wide level, just sneak in a game every now and then and probe the reaction. If this gets a pass and not a shitstorm and review bombing by media outlets and people, then we'll see more and more cases like this in the future. Because ultimately it's what they want; they want full control over usage and usage data and make you dependable on their service so they can tailor it exactly so they can squeeze out every last dollar.
What no singleplayer game/part ever needs: dailies, log-in bonuses, loot boxes/packs, internet connection. If a singleplayer portion of a game has any of these this should be a red flag and pointed out so by everyone.
The current development is really pissing me off.
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Schmick
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MS seem to have it right. Look at SoT, FS2020 and like you said FH5.
Halo though.... well.... MS still have some work there to do.
alabtrosMyster
Member
This is one less game to get, it's great to save money!
They can't as long as they're drunk on the prestige that having a FIA authorized eSports mode gives them.
Manabyte gen z lolplay lower ones which are faster, or just dont play the game at all ^^, nothing going to change if u cry here on forums, sometimes i just dont understand this gen z? i think its called that
And? Gt sport had daily rewards and not a roulette and some races paid 200k.