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[killer rin]

That is depressing, but a true hero for deciding to go through with it regardless :'(

 

[Eye for an Eye]

You don't see how a mother, knowing her child will never have a chance of living after birth, carrying that child to term isn't a remarkably selfless act that should be commended? A mother that has a miscarriage or still birth can be emotionally traumatized but knowing full well that the child growing inside you is growing for no other reason than to save the life of another has to be on another level.

You can't be serious that you don't find it any more commendable than any other poor diagnosis. And if you really believe that, you should probably see a professional psychiatrist because that's sociopathic or some kind of lack of empathy that isn't normal for a human.

And I say this as a pro-choice person

I say it as some one who has twice terminated for medical reasons. I say it as someone who helps other women get through a termination for medical reason.

Have you ever been faced with a poor prenatal diagnosis? Have you ever faced making the decision on CTT or having an abortion at 20 weeks? Didn't think so... Her actions are not any more commendable than any other woman or her choice. I sure as hell didn't get any pats on the back and thousands of praises for the hell I went through.

 

[Snowybreak]

Fucking made me shed a tear. Amazing person.

 

[Kinyou]

I say it as some one who has twice terminated for medical reasons. I say it as someone who helps other women get through a termination for medical reason.

Have you ever been faced with a poor prenatal diagnosis? Have you ever faced making the decision on CTT or having an abortion at 20 weeks? Didn't think so... Her actions are not any more commendable than any other woman or her choice. I sure as hell didn't get any pats on the back and thousands of praises for the hell I went through.

She specifically went through it because she wanted to help someone else, that's what's being commended. This isn't to diminish the trauma and pain all the other women go through

 

[HeySeuss]

I say it as some one who has twice terminated for medical reasons. I say it as someone who helps other women get through a termination for medical reason.

Have you ever been faced with a poor prenatal diagnosis? Have you ever faced making the decision on CTT or having an abortion at 20 weeks? Didn't think so... Her actions are not any more commendable than any other woman or her choice. I sure as hell didn't get any pats on the back and thousands of praises for the hell I went through.

Maybe next time lead with that instead of coming across as a non-empathetic asshole.

And my ex wife miscarried 3 times, so yes I know how traumatizing it can be and understand how that has permanently messed her mental health up. Sounds like you of all people then should feel for her situation instead of handwaving it away as no big deal.

 

[Kthulhu]

Poor woman. Glad she's making the best of a bad situation.

 

[Leynos]

I am confused, if the baby doesn't have a brain how is it surviving inside the mother.

There are different types of anencephaly, and, as mentioned above, one can have a brain stem, but no cerebrum, or cerebellum. Most babies, if they are carried to full term, die soon after being separated from the mother.

 

[cartographer]

She moderates her husband's Thunder blog (as much as you can moderate that place) and she's always been witty and fun with commentators. That place can get pretty vile but she seemed to always have a healthy perspective about it and didn't let it get to her.

 

[Massicot]

 

[Keri]

I say it as some one who has twice terminated for medical reasons. I say it as someone who helps other women get through a termination for medical reason.

Have you ever been faced with a poor prenatal diagnosis? Have you ever faced making the decision on CTT or having an abortion at 20 weeks? Didn't think so... Her actions are not any more commendable than any other woman or her choice. I sure as hell didn't get any pats on the back and thousands of praises for the hell I went through.

Her actions are more commendable, because she's choosing a difficult path, specifically to help others.

It doesn't mean that you and other women in your position, aren't also deserving of sympathy. It doesn't mean that you didn't also experience something hugely traumatic that takes bravery to overcome. But it's in pretty bad form for you to attempt to disparage this woman, because you feel she's being treated better than you were.

 

[Pantsuit Apologist]

Damn that made me teary-eyed. She's taking altruism to a whole different level.

 

[Shepard]

Incredible. Now she is carrying a few more babies in her womb.

 

[Sesuadra]

this woman deserves all the praise.

 

[Brian Fellows]

She is a better person than I.

But pretty much everyone is.

 

[Eye for an Eye]

Her actions are more commendable, because she's choosing a difficult path, specifically to help others.

It doesn't mean that you and other women in your position, aren't also deserving of sympathy. It doesn't mean that you didn't also experience something hugely traumatic that takes bravery to overcome. But it's in pretty bad form for you to attempt to disparage this woman, because you feel she's being treated better than you were.

You all are treating her as a hero. She's not a hero. She's a woman with a choice and that's it. Her path isn't any more or less difficult to overcome than any one else's.

 

[TheLetdown]

You all are treating her as a hero. She's not a hero. She's a woman with a choice and that's it. Her path isn't any more or less difficult to overcome than any one else's.

And her choice is utterly selfless. That's commendable. That's heroic.

 

[Ryuukan]

You all are treating her as a hero. She's not a hero. She's a woman with a choice and that's it. Her path isn't any more or less difficult to overcome than any one else's.

whats your take on prisoners of war

you only like the ones that dont get caught right

 

[Mr.Shrugglesツ]

You all are treating her as a hero. She's not a hero. She's a woman with a choice and that's it. Her path isn't any more or less difficult to overcome than any one else's.

I'm sure the families who are going to receive organs for their children will see her as one.

 

[Keri]

You all are treating her as a hero. She's not a hero. She's a woman with a choice and that's it. Her path isn't any more or less difficult to overcome than any one else's.

She is a hero, because she's made a difficult choice that exposes her to an incredible amount of pain, solely for the benefit of others. Terminating a pregnancy is difficult, absolutely. But carrying a pregnancy to term for 9 months, knowing the child will not survive, is a pain that few people know or experience. This woman is experiencing all the negative side effects of pregnancy, for the duration of the pregnancy, merely to help others. And she's doing it despite the fact that it means daily reminders that the child she's carrying won't survive. She's chosen a path that very few people would choose and one that few people could cope with.

If you're interpreting this thread as a negative commentary, about your choice to terminate, when placed in a similar situation, don't. No one expects anyone to make this choice and her choice, doesn't mean the people who chose differently, are bad people. I think you're absolutely right, that women who have to choose to terminate, deserve more empathy and acknowledgment for what they go through (just as I think pregnant women in general deserve more empathy and acknowledgment for what they go through), but again, it's pretty bad form to try to discourage others from celebrating this particular selfless act.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

You all are treating her as a hero. She's not a hero. She's a woman with a choice and that's it. Her path isn't any more or less difficult to overcome than any one else's.

Do you feel this story is newsworthy?

 

[Meffer]

It survives by the umbilical cord. Most scenarios do not play out like this though. It's a strange and rare case of being able to do an actual live organ donation. Most times, they're only able to donate to research.

I don't find her any more commendable than any other woman getting a poor prenatal diagnosis, whether they choose to carry to term or terminate.

She is going through the process, all the pain, knowing that even though she'll not have a child, she'll save many others. This is a selfless act and she's an incredibly brave and wonderful person doing this when she didn't have to.

 

[Eye for an Eye]

She is a hero, because she's made a difficult choice that exposes her to an incredible amount of pain, solely for the benefit of others. Terminating a pregnancy is difficult, absolutely. But carrying a pregnancy to term for 9 months, knowing the child will not survive, is a pain that few people know or experience. This woman is experiencing all the negative side effects of pregnancy, for the duration of the pregnancy, merely to help others. And she's doing it despite the fact that it means daily reminders that the child she's carrying won't survive. She's chosen a path that very few people would choose and one that few people could cope with.

If you're interpreting this thread as a negative commentary, about your choice to terminate, when placed in a similar situation, don't. No one expects anyone to make this choice and her choice, doesn't mean the people who chose differently, are bad people. I think you're absolutely right, that women who have to choose to terminate, deserve more empathy and acknowledgment for what they go through (just as I think pregnant women in general deserve more empathy and acknowledgment for what they go through), but again, it's pretty bad form to try to discourage others from celebrating this particular selfless act.

But there's always been women to carry to term and women who terminate. It's a pain that few know from either side. She's not a special case. On top of that, her wish might be to donate the organs, but there's so much more to it than that, if she makes it to that point.

And this isn't the first story of a woman CTT and getting praises for it.

 

[Meffer]

You all are treating her as a hero. She's not a hero. She's a woman with a choice and that's it. Her path isn't any more or less difficult to overcome than any one else's.

Say that to her face. I dare you.
Do you have any idea what women go through going through pregnancy and giving birth?
I think you don't.

 

[Zen Aku]

Bless her heart and her family. I hope one day she'll be able to have many wonderful and healthy children.

 

[Eye for an Eye]

Say that to her face. I dare you.

I sure as hell would.

Btw, I actually did say it to a woman who had a child with anencephaly, who thought she was a special snowflake for CTT rather than tx her pregnancy.

 

[muu]

I say it as some one who has twice terminated for medical reasons. I say it as someone who helps other women get through a termination for medical reason.

Have you ever been faced with a poor prenatal diagnosis? Have you ever faced making the decision on CTT or having an abortion at 20 weeks? Didn't think so... Her actions are not any more commendable than any other woman or her choice. I sure as hell didn't get any pats on the back and thousands of praises for the hell I went through.

Sorry for your past losses, and thank you for helping those that got stuck in a similar situation.

 

[Zen Aku]

I sure as hell would.

Honestly what the hell is your problem. It's a shame you have your own problem with childbirth, but why do you feel the need to shit on this woman and her choice? She made a tough decision like you most likely did.

 

[Le Colonel]

I can't even imagine how she can find the courage to carry on until the end while suffering such heartbreaking loss. That woman is a saint, period. Everyone nitpicking or downplaying her action is a soulless and bitter individual.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

The decision to donate baby Eva's organs wasn't the only reason.

The couple also "came to the realization Eva is alive and our daughter deserves to meet her mama and daddy," her husband wrote.

She's a hero

And wow at the jealous attention-seeking poster

 

[Meffer]

I sure as hell would.

Btw, I actually did say it to a woman who had a child with anencephaly, who thought she was a special snowflake for CTT rather than tx her pregnancy.

The fuck is wrong with you? Seriously? I wouldn't mind if you kept these thoughts to yourself but you made the effort to a disgusting human being. Shame on you.

 

[superdeluxe]

God Damn Respect.

 

[kitchenmotors]

I sure as hell would.

Btw, I actually did say it to a woman who had a child with anencephaly, who thought she was a special snowflake for CTT rather than tx her pregnancy.

You're a terrible person.

All that really needs to be said.

You're trying to treat this as a competition because you didn't get praised? Oh, come off your high horse. It's a shitty story that is going to have a good outcome.

 

[Keri]

But there's always been women to carry to term and women who terminate. She's not a special case. On top of that, her wish might be to donate the organs, but there's so much more to it than that, if she makes it to that point.

And this isn't the first story of a woman CTT and getting praises for it.

Unless you can show me statistics that indicate women regularly carry to term babies who cannot survive, for the purpose of donating organs, she is precisely a special case.

Yeah, there are plenty of women who have experienced part of what this woman has experienced. Plenty who know the pain of being told their baby won't survive and the pain of choosing to terminate. Plenty who know the general pain and difficulty in carrying a baby to term. But few experience it all and fewer choose to experience it all, for the benefit of others.

 

[superdeluxe]

I sure as hell would.

Btw, I actually did say it to a woman who had a child with anencephaly, who thought she was a special snowflake for CTT rather than tx her pregnancy.

Da Fuq is the matter with you?

 

[Xe4]

That's pretty cool. Not sure I would, but she's a fucking hero for doing it.

 

[Smellycat]

It survives by the umbilical cord. Most scenarios do not play out like this though. It's a strange and rare case of being able to do an actual live organ donation. Most times, they're only able to donate to research.

I don't find her any more commendable than any other woman getting a poor prenatal diagnosis, whether they choose to carry to term or terminate.

Why do people have to hate on everything? It is absolutely ridiculous

 

[Le Colonel]

I sure as hell would.

Btw, I actually did say it to a woman who had a child with anencephaly, who thought she was a special snowflake for CTT rather than tx her pregnancy.

Holy shit. What a monster. Are you seeking attention ??

 

[Dr.Acula]

You all are treating her as a hero. She's not a hero. She's a woman with a choice and that's it. Her path isn't any more or less difficult to overcome than any one else's.

Cosign, there's a lot of things projected on to women in society. Carrying to full term is a hard choice, getting an abortion is a hard choice, planning a pregnancy is a hard choice, but finding out you're pregnant after a one-nite stand is irresponsible, the condom breaks and not being on the pill is irresponsible.

Could you imagine all that shit if every time someone broke their arm people made all those judgements? Slipped on ice? Should have worn boots. Refused painkillers? You're so brave!

The woman in this story made a decision, and now everyone on social media is chiming-in with value-judgements.

It's an interesting story, I'm glad she chose to share it, but I can understand how people who have been in simiar situations can be off-put by rushing to praise or condemn a person for making a decision on a situation they have no control over.

It also makes me wary, a story like this gets promoted and another woman faces a similar situation, of course she has the right to terminate, but if she does... "oh, so why didn't you carry it to term like that other lady? She's a hero! Unlike you." People want to hear that, right...

I sure as hell would.

Btw, I actually did say it to a woman who had a child with anencephaly, who thought she was a special snowflake for CTT rather than tx her pregnancy.

You kinda undermined your own point about how these are just choices and paths if you go up to other people and get in their faces with choices and paths...

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Bless her heart and her family. I hope one day she'll be able to have many wonderful and healthy children.

I think she already has a son, in the article you can see her husband's Facebook profile pic and he is holding a baby boy.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

I sure as hell would.

Btw, I actually did say it to a woman who had a child with anencephaly, who thought she was a special snowflake for CTT rather than tx her pregnancy.

I don't know what to say.

 

[Ashhong]

I sure as hell would.

Btw, I actually did say it to a woman who had a child with anencephaly, who thought she was a special snowflake for CTT rather than tx her pregnancy.

Question, why do some women choose to CTT? This woman is doing it in order to donate the organs, what are other reasons?

 

[Zen Aku]

Holy shit. What a monster. Are you seeking attention ??

It's starting to feel that way. Just because she went through her own mishap with her pregnancy, made an incredibly tough decision and apparently didn't get any praises out of it. She feel like now she's entitled to shit on every other women choices, and that they're not special or commendable for making equally tough choices.

Like why? What do you get out of this? Out of being so hateful?

 

[kitchenmotors]

It's starting to feel that way. Just because she went through her own mishap with her pregnancy, made an incredibly tough decision and apparently didn't get any praises out of it. She feel like now she's entitled to shit on every other women choices, and that they're not special or commendable for making equally tough choices.

Like why? What do you get out of this? Out of being so hateful?

Some people are just hateful and spiteful. We've seen a lot more of this come to the surface with the recent election.

Just ignore these people. They don't deserve the time of day. Shameful and pathetic.

 

[Zen Aku]

I think she already has a son, in the article you can see her husband's Facebook profile pic and he is holding a baby boy.

Yeah I saw that. I meant in the future if she want to try for more.

 

[HeySeuss]

I sure as hell would.

Btw, I actually did say it to a woman who had a child with anencephaly, who thought she was a special snowflake for CTT rather than tx her pregnancy.

As I thought from your first several posts of doubling down on your lack of empathy. You are an absolutely vile, disgusting human being. If you're not making shit up and are being serious, seek professional help.

 

[Xe4]

Cosign, there's a lot of things projected on to women in society. Carrying to full term is a hard choice, getting an abortion is a hard choice, planning a pregnancy is a hard choice, but finding out you're pregnant after a one-nite stand is irresponsible, the condom breaks and not being on the pill is irresponsible.

Could you imagine all that shit if every time someone broke their arm people made all those judgements? Slipped on ice? Should have worn boots. Refused painkillers? You're so brave!

The woman in this story made a decision, and now everyone on social media is chiming-in with value-judgements.

It's an interesting story, I'm glad she chose to share it, but I can understand how people who have been in simiar situations can be off-put by rushing to praise or condemn a person for making a decision on a situation they have no control over.

It also makes me wary, a story like this gets promoted and another woman faces a similar situation, of course she has the right to terminate, but if she does... "oh, so why didn't you carry it to term like that other lady? She's a hero! Unlike you." People want to hear that, right...

Very likely a child (or several) is/are going to live because of this woman's choice. How in the fuck is that not commendable?

Nobody is going to chastise anyone for not going through with a pregnancy that has been compromised, just like nobody is going to chastise you for not randomly donating a kidney. But that doesn't mean this woman isn't a hero for doing it.

 

[Savitar]

To do so is beyond amazing, I can't imagine what it must be like to conceive such an act let alone make it happen. The emotions alone must be intense, but to do so in the quest to save others.....not many people men or women could do this.

 

[Plywood]

You all are treating her as a hero. She's not a hero. She's a woman with a choice and that's it. Her path isn't any more or less difficult to overcome than any one else's.

Everything is exactly equal at all times everywhere.

 

[Jack The Nipper]

Crazy that this can happen without a brain. I didn't know a person could survive without it?

Not trying to sound inconsiderate to her gesture but that is intriguing. I'd assume in the wild that's not survivable?

 

[underscore_underscore]

Holy shit. What a brave person to be able to push through this sadness in order to still do good and help others.