[Moore’s Law Is Dead] PS5 Pro PSSR 2 Leak

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I agree with him.

16GB Vram won't be enough for the late game for next gen on the PC only the earlier ones unless you're like me who's sticking with 1080P than 16gb would be good even for late next gen games like Fallout 5.

Also makes sense that the PS6 would have 16gb of VRAM and 24gb of system ram.
 
Hawk The Slayer said:
I agree with him.

16GB Vram won't be enough for the late game for next gen on the PC only the earlier ones unless you're like me who's sticking with 1080P than 16gb would be good even for late next gen games like Fallout 5.

Also makes sense that the PS6 would have 16gb of VRAM and 24gb of system ram.
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He says he thinks the PS6 will have 40 GBs of RAM, but split?
 
Project management-wise, you'd think they'd probably aim to have deliverables by November 7th, a year after the release of the PS5 Pro and more likely even probably some time in October when they probably minted PSSR for games updating on the Pro at launch.

This makes things REALLY interesting in the sense that Ghost of Yotei might be the first major new PS5 Pro game utilizing the latest version of PSSR. So definitely something to keep an eye out for launch.
 
mckmas8808 said:
He says he thinks the PS6 will have 40 GBs of RAM, but split?
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Yep 24GB Memory and 16GB Vram.

Which I think makes sense too as the PS6 would run through around 2035.

From other key points before, he said the consoles have their own thing that helps the console use less vram compared to PC.

So 16gb of VRAM on the PS6 will be enough for the whole gen (early to late PS6 game(

He said PC having 16gb of vram should be good for early PS6 aka early next gen games but not late next gen games.

He's talking about the higher resolutions though like 1440p and 4k.

Although I think 16gb vram should still be good for PC if you're on 1080P even with late next gen games.

The bolded part is from me.
 
Mibu no ookami said:
This guy has been the best source of PlayStation hardware design leaks, even better than Tom Henderson. So I find it funny for people to shit on him here, pun intended.
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I have never seen this person or heard of him before but he seems pretty accurate and reasonable and how I'll also view the next gen games both early to late games and their requirements for the PS6 and PC.
 
Hawk The Slayer said:
I have never seen this person or heard of him before but he seems pretty accurate and reasonable and how I'll also view the next gen games both early to late games and their requirements for the PS6 and PC.
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He leaked the specs on PS5 pro and pssr before anyone else had it. He also leaked the ps handheld before anyone else had it. Sony even hit him with a DMCA violation because he clearly had actual design documents.

I don't know how good his sources are across the board, but he clearly has a source with a lot of access to Sony's roadmap whether that be a sony engineer, a sony developer, or a 3rd party developer.
 
Mibu no ookami said:
This guy has been the best source of PlayStation hardware design leaks, even better than Tom Henderson. So I find it funny for people to shit on him here, pun intended.
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Really?

You know there's a dedicated Reddit sub for this clown about all the times he's wrong? The thing is he deletes the times he's wrong to look good but peoples are keeping tabs on him. He's a joke. Don't care you think he's accurate with Sony, if you dig hard enough you'll probably find another source he's ripping off from.

Peoples have trolled him with fake leaks and documented that he uploads it as trustworthy sources.

He should be banned from this website period.
 
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I remember I used listen to his podcast until he started saying ridiculous things like PS5 and Series X being able to play next gen games at 4K60 ultra settings. He also was high on PS5 getting a separate ray tracing chip. Then there was a whole debacle with him saying he had multiple leaks of 30 series GPUs having 3x-4x ray tracing performance of 20 series. That's just a few examples of his outlandish claims. The guy is a joke and a meme in PC community at this point, I would advise to sreer clear of him.
 
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Buggy Loop said:
Really?

You know there's a dedicated Reddit sub for this clown about all the times he's wrong? The thing is he deletes the times he's wrong to look good but peoples are keeping tabs on him. He's a joke. Don't care you think he's accurate with Sony, if you dig hard enough you'll probably find another source he's ripping off from.

Peoples have trolled him with fake leaks and documented that he uploads it as trustworthy sources.

He should be banned from this website period.
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His track record is very spotty, but for whatever reason he's been super on-point with PS5 Pro specifically (to the point where he had design docs and got his video about them DMCA'd by Sony).

He was also the 1st to talk about the Sony handheld too iirc.
 
Mibu no ookami said:
This guy has been the best source of PlayStation hardware design leaks, even better than Tom Henderson. So I find it funny for people to shit on him here, pun intended.
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You clearly have no idea when it comes to this fraud, lol. Henderson is a legit leaker unlike this guy who gets ton of stuff wrong.
 
Hawk The Slayer said:
I agree with him.

16GB Vram won't be enough for the late game for next gen on the PC only the earlier ones unless you're like me who's sticking with 1080P than 16gb would be good even for late next gen games like Fallout 5.

Also makes sense that the PS6 would have 16gb of VRAM and 24gb of system ram.
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Im running all my games at medium to high settings in 1080p at 60fps with just an 8GB GPU

What are you even talking about?
 
Astray said:
His track record is very spotty, but for whatever reason he's been super on-point with PS5 Pro specifically (to the point where he had design docs and got his video about them DMCA'd by Sony).

He was also the 1st to talk about the Sony handheld too iirc.
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He does have legit takes here and there as he does have some industry sources, but most of his leaks happen well after other legit leakers already put info out there. When it comes to "breaking news" type of stuff then he's often wrong.
 
Edder1 said:
He does have legit takes here and there as he does have some industry sources, but most of his leaks happen well after other legit leakers already put info out there. When it comes to "breaking news" type of stuff then he's often wrong.
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I remember this one very clearly, him (and later on Tom Henderson) were very clearly ahead of the pack on PS5 Pro.
 
HRK69 said:
Im running all my games at medium to high settings in 1080p at 60fps with just an 8GB GPU

What are you even talking about?
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He wasn't talking about this gen, he's predicting PS6 gen, early to late PS6 games. From that short amount I watched him, he said PS6 should be out by 2027/2028 which would last to around 2035.

He said 16GB is good for early PS6 games but not enough for late PS6 games like the ones closer to 2035.

Keep in mind that he's basing this on people with 1440p and 4k. So I personally think we 1080P users would be good with 16gb of vram even for the late PS6 games in the 2033-2035s.
 
Edder1 said:
He does have legit takes here and there as he does have some industry sources, but most of his leaks happen well after other legit leakers already put info out there. When it comes to "breaking news" type of stuff then he's often wrong.
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What do you think of his prediction on the PS6 having 40GB total split into 24gb of System ram and 16gb of Vram? Thought it was pretty accurate and how I'll picture the PS6.
 
PS6 is going to pull a GTA6 and get delayed.
My crystal ball says so. Might have to get a complete redo back to the drawing board and be put into a vaporware status.
 
Mibu no ookami said:
He leaked the specs on PS5 pro and pssr before anyone else had it. He also leaked the ps handheld before anyone else had it. Sony even hit him with a DMCA violation because he clearly had actual design documents.

I don't know how good his sources are across the board, but he clearly has a source with a lot of access to Sony's roadmap whether that be a sony engineer, a sony developer, or a 3rd party developer.
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Oh I didn't know MILD was this accurate with Playstation stuff.
 
Hawk The Slayer said:
Yep 24GB Memory and 16GB Vram.

Which I think makes sense too as the PS6 would run through around 2035.

From other key points before, he said the consoles have their own thing that helps the console use less vram compared to PC.

So 16gb of VRAM on the PS6 will be enough for the whole gen (early to late PS6 game(

He said PC having 16gb of vram should be good for early PS6 aka early next gen games but not late next gen games.

He's talking about the higher resolutions though like 1440p and 4k.

Although I think 16gb vram should still be good for PC if you're on 1080P even with late next gen games.

The bolded part is from me.
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Ehh remember what game come from the late 256/256 ps3 . Skyrim gta5 dragon age inquisition , last of us , ac black flag .

Im not sure these game even start with 256mb vram ...
 
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bbeach123 said:
Ehh remember what game come from the late 256/256 ps3 . Skyrim gta5 dragon age inquisition , last of us , ac black flag .

Im not sure these game even start with 256mb vram ...
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The original non SE Skyrim was good with a 2GB Vram like a GTX 770. With heavy modding it's recommend to go for more and insane modding requires even the GTX Titan at the time. 2GB is also ok for the base GTA V. Higher for a better experience. But the gap has increased a lot since and even higher. Dishonored 2 for example required more than 4gb of vram if you don't want the annoying strutter/lag and that was 2016. Witcher 3 is great with 8GB. Nowadays current gen games are either still good with 8gb or it isn't enough depending on what game you go for and what resolution. 1080P 8gb is still acceptable this gen for most games.
 
Hawk The Slayer said:
The original non SE Skyrim was good with a 2GB Vram like a GTX 770. With heavy modding it's recommend to go for more and insane modding requires even the GTX Titan at the time. 2GB is also ok for the base GTA V. Higher for a better experience. But the gap has increased a lot since and even higher. Dishonored 2 for example required more than 4gb of vram if you don't want the annoying strutter/lag and that was 2016. Witcher 3 is great with 8GB. Nowadays current gen games are either still good with 8gb or it isn't enough depending on what game you go for and what resolution. 1080P 8gb is still acceptable this gen for most games.
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Dude , the ps3 have 256mb of vram . Not 2G (8 time 256mb)
 
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bbeach123 said:
Dude , the ps3 have 256mb of vram . Not 2G (8 time 256mb)
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I was talking about the PC cause console uses a lot less vram.

The original Skyrim on PS3 had much lower VRAM requirements than the PC version due to the limitations of the PS3 hardware. The PS3 version used a shared 256MB of VRAM and system RAM, making it a considerable challenge for the developers
 
Sony won't run split unless they go with an HBM setup. And nobody is going to do that because it's too expensive and impractical.

You're better off with fast GDDR and stacked cache. It'll be GDDR7 utilizing PAM-3.
 
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Hawk The Slayer said:
I was talking about the PC cause console uses a lot less vram.

The original Skyrim on PS3 had much lower VRAM requirements than the PC version due to the limitations of the PS3 hardware. The PS3 version used a shared 256MB of VRAM and system RAM, making it a considerable challenge for the developers
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It was 256 MB of XDR + 256 MB of DDR3.
 
Hawk The Slayer said:
He wasn't talking about this gen, he's predicting PS6 gen, early to late PS6 games. From that short amount I watched him, he said PS6 should be out by 2027/2028 which would last to around 2035.

He said 16GB is good for early PS6 games but not enough for late PS6 games like the ones closer to 2035.

Keep in mind that he's basing this on people with 1440p and 4k. So I personally think we 1080P users would be good with 16gb of vram even for the late PS6 games in the 2033-2035s.
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I mean yeah, if that's the case, we are talking 10 years here. I can absolutely see over 16GB needed for 4K (and maybe even 1440p) when we are talking like 4 GPU generations in the future. We will be on like 9000 series from Nvidia by then, lol, and even they will have a lot more VRAM in the 70 and 80 series.

Also, I don't see PS6 having split memory, that would not make sense. GDDR 7 (or 7x by then) isn going to be so much more expensive for it to be worth it.
 
The only way I see them doing a split memory pool is if the main SoC is basically just the same chip as the handheld device (which will use LPDDR5/6) and the GPU is external attached via PCIe. Seems really stupid to have a bunch of extra PHY shoreline on your SoC for two types of memory controllers when you could just bolt more DRAM chips to GDDR7 controllers.
 
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Not really much of a leak. "Sony is working on a better and faster version of PSSR", yeah no shit. Mark Cerney confirmed as much months ago.
 
Zathalus said:
Not really much of a leak. "Sony is working on a better and faster version of PSSR", yeah no shit. Mark Cerney confirmed as much months ago.
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And it isn't that exciting either. Lower resolution base and 120Hz modes. Who wants that? I want way better 4K 60 modes.
 
Hawk The Slayer said:
Yep 24GB Memory and 16GB Vram.

Which I think makes sense too as the PS6 would run through around 2035.

From other key points before, he said the consoles have their own thing that helps the console use less vram compared to PC.

So 16gb of VRAM on the PS6 will be enough for the whole gen (early to late PS6 game(

He said PC having 16gb of vram should be good for early PS6 aka early next gen games but not late next gen games.
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If you believe the PS6 should/will have a split pool of 24GB RAM and 16GB VRAM you are as stupid as he is.





As for PC VRAM demands going up.........sweet jesus do we need someone to tell us that?
With 3GB modules pretty prepped they will be mature by the RTX60s and 70s so hopefully begging for VRAM will be a thing of the past.
 
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I actually do not like this guy in the slightest. He is a complete bullshitter. I cant believe he has the following he has.

Bleugh
 
Hawk The Slayer said:
Also makes sense that the PS6 would have 16gb of VRAM and 24gb of system raram.
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He's saying on PC should be good with half the VRAM as the console.

PS5: 16GB
PC: 16GB System / 8GB VRAM

PS6: 32GB VRAM
PC: 24GB System / 16GB VRAM

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This isn't a leak by him btw.
 
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