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[MarkusRJR]

I used to be friends with an Australian in high school and he would constantly compare Australia to Southern USA. Seeing shit like this constantly makes me never want to go to Australia (even though I'm white). So messed up that no one stands up for them.

 

[Mr_Appleby]

. In what universe did the aboriginal people disappear to? Talk about a loud echo chamber.

They disappeared to the universe of dead. Got a time-machine so we can go save them?

i want to see an aboriginal do this to a white guy

seen it.

 

[cdyhybrid]

Its sad you feel that way. I mean, there are some areas I feel unsafe in, but as a whole its not an unsafe country.

You mean aside from the 30 deadly venomous creatures per square foot, right?

 

[lexi]

An NZ guy and a Japanese girl bunked at my place over the weekend.

They both went on a few racist rants about people they've met at places they've travelled to. Using Reactionary-GAF-Logic, NZ and Japanese people are racist as fuck and I'd never want to visit their countries.

 

[CrushDance]

Can we all just admit that your previous claim...



...is so ridiculously far from the truth that it can only call into question the validity of the rest of your comments?

Sure. Show me the numbers.

That is the point I'm making. We are taught what happened. Its not swept under the rug like Japanese atrocities in WW2.

Its easy to read books and think that gives you the full picture. Fact: White Australia Policy (technically policies) was in effect until 1970 - also a fact: The White Australia Policy was being dismantled for the prior 40 years. Just because they're facts doesn't mean you've got the full picture.

Who is downplaying anything? Saying there are no easy answers to the problems in indigenous communities isn't downplaying shit. Saying that people racially abusing others on public transport isn't that common isn't downplaying shit. I don't know why you take offense to the idea that one drunk fuck on a bus doesn't reflect everyone in Australia.

Did you know they're discussing how best to recognize Indigenous Australian's in Australia's constitution? That doesn't make world news does it?

Erm. So how has "officially ending oppression" worked for other countries? You say that the policies were on the books till the 70's and were "being dismantled" for 40 years prior to that point. Okay. Now what does that do for the people those policies affected and left them in their current lurch? And no, I never said that this one person represented Australia. Just like anytime someone does or says something in my part of the world; I don't say "Gee. This is how it must be in every part of the country!". What I said and continue to say is that there is a lack of understanding and viewing things from the perspective of those that got brutalized so that others could take over. No where did this turn into a "lol give them back the land" or any of that nonsense. That time has long since past. Only that people are largely apathetic to the concerns of those people.

Great post. I'm a white Australian and know more Chinese, Indian, Vietnamese and Malaysian people than I do Caucasians. My local shopping centre is a brilliant mix of Asian grocers, Indian restaurants and Korean bakeries. I'm also married to a Filipino. Every race getting along great! But these people only see a drunk wanker on a bus racially abusing people and generalise the entire Australian populace due to it.

Then people say "oh you's are all so sensitive to criticism about racism in your country, it must be true that Australia is 99% racist" as opposed to the more logical fact that we just take offence to being called outright racists when majority of people here know that its not true.

These threads frustrate me.

Do you acknowledge the statistics? And once again. You're speaking from the viewpoint of a white person, a man at that in Australian society. Not to say that your viewpoint is any less valid; but do you honestly think that you can fully embrace that the very society you live in was built on blood? And that regardless of whether your ancestors directly benefited. You as a white male Australian are in a position better than Aboriginals socially?

How can you even type this with a straight face? A quick google would tell you Australia's population by ethnicity.

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

Yes because whenever a thread is made on something bad happening in any country besides Australia that country is vilified as much as this.

Okay. For the last time. Australia is not a racist nation. All that was said is that like any other nation or group that is largely composed of a singular shared identity. There is a tendency for those not included in that majority to be overlooked and their voices not heard. And Australia has in the past chosen, and continues; to freely choose which people they let into their country and by how much. Like any other sovereign nation. The only thing being "argued" here is that Australia is a predominantly white country by design and as such a lot of things are passed through the average white persons lens. Is there anything controversial about that?

An NZ guy and a Japanese girl bunked at my place over the weekend.

They both went on a few racist rants about people they've met at places they've travelled to. Using Reactionary-GAF-Logic, NZ and Japanese people are racist as fuck and I'd never want to visit their countries.

No. What is so hard to understand that Japan is similar to Australia in its make-up? Japanese people are people. Which means that they include the whole spectrum of problems too. The similarity between the two countries is simply their homogeneity which causes people to say or do things without intending to be dismissive or hurtful and simply have a hard time seeing what problems there are. I think people are getting hung up on the "white" part as being an insult. It's not. A country doesn't have to be one thing or another and nobody(At-least I) am not saying that it should be a brown country by any means or anything of the sort.

Really all it boils down to is the simple fact that majorities tend to have problems viewing problems of minorities as being valid ones. And this isn't something that's unique to any country or peoples. So unless you guys are going to start arguing that Australians are singing kumba-ya down streets or something and are somehow more aware than other countries....I don't know what else there is to be said.

 

[ISOM]

An NZ guy and a Japanese girl bunked at my place over the weekend.

They both went on a few racist rants about people they've met at places they've travelled to. Using Reactionary-GAF-Logic, NZ and Japanese people are racist as fuck and I'd never want to visit their countries.

You mind describing what they said since I'm kinda interested in what they experienced.

 

[Fusebox]

Sure. Show me the numbers.

Woah there CrushDance, back it up son.

You said,

Now look at Australia and tell me with a straight face that you people are on anywhere near the same level of discussion or care at all when the person sitting next to you, you to school with, work, date, etc is probably going to be white 99% of the time and tell me that you guys actually take it seriously

Now, I'm actually IN Australia right now. Between my commute to work and being at work today and all the other various places in between I would estimate that at no time was I in an environment with more than 50% white people.

You said, 'Look at Australia'. Well I looked, and you're so far out of order with your original statement that it's no wonder all the Australian posters just spat our their beers.

Your rebuttal?

Sure. Show me the numbers.

Lets try a bit of consistency here eh.

 

[hamchan]

I don't know about you guys but when I went to the United States a guy on the bus called me out for my Asian ethnicity. When I also went to the UK someone honked at me for being Asian. Also when I went to Japan they all gave me funny looks because I wasn't Japanese but instead Chinese. Then when I went to France people there were rude to me, probably because I was Asian.

Therefore everyone that lives in those countries are all racist. Literally everyone.

 

[CrushDance]

Woah there CrushDance, back it up son.

You said,



Now, I'm actually IN Australia right now. Between my commute to work and being at work today and all the other various places in between I would estimate that at no time was I in an environment with more than 50% white people.

You said, 'Look at Australia'. Well I looked, and you're so far out of order with your original statement that it's no wonder all the Australian posters just spat our their beers.

Your rebuttal?



Lets try a bit of consistency here eh.

Huh? I said that "99%" of people were white. You then asked me where that came from. And I said demographics...are you more likely to run into a white person or some other?

Edit: Saying that you're more likely to deal with other white people is not an attack.

 

[ThisWreckage]

Public transportation is harrowing in almost any country. It's a hotbed for the crazy and the economical.

 

[Fusebox]

I can't argue with someone who thinks the numbers back up their claim that Australia is 99% white.

 

[Dead Man]

So, we are to ignore the hundreds of racist rants on the subway in NY that show up on YouTube? Or other public videos of racist wankers?

Australia is not a racism free country. It sucks but there is no point pretending otherwise. What it is not is some weird bastion of racial hatred that encompasses everyone who lives here.

Huh? I said that "99%" of people were white. You then asked me where that came from. And I said demographics...are you more likely to run into a white person or some other?

Edit: Saying that you're more likely to deal with other white people is not an attack.

And that would make you wrong.

 

[Major_Lazer]

Welcome to every thread on every bad thing that happens in any country. But it only matters when its the country you live in right? Get over yourself.

So because it's something that I have knowledge about I should just get over myself? Generalization and stereotypes are wrong in all instances so don't jump to conclusions about what I'm thinking.

Get over your sad pathetic life.

 

[Antiwhippy]

Huh? I said that "99%" of people were white. You then asked me where that came from. And I said demographics...are you more likely to run into a white person or some other?

Edit: Saying that you're more likely to deal with other white people is not an attack.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/2071.0main+features902012-2013

Not exactly far from 99%, but white (or at least those descending from european ancestry) is around 93-92%. Next biggest are those from asian ancestry.

 

[reptilescorpio]

I don't know about you guys but when I went to the United States a guy on the bus called me out for my Asian ethnicity. When I also went to the UK someone honked at me for being Asian. Also when I went to Japan they all gave me funny looks because I wasn't Japanese but instead Chinese. Then when I went to France people there were rude to me, probably because I was Asian.

Therefore everyone that lives in those countries are all racist. Literally everyone.

Nah that's bullshit, the French hate everyone.

 

[hamchan]

I think people like to target Australia for racism because we're quite a small country but also very similar culturally to large countries like the US and the UK, so people like to pass their own white guilt onto Australia as some form of trying to appear like a better person by judging a similar country, while also simultaneously ignoring their own country's huge racism problems stemming from their own long long history of slavery and racism.

 

[CrushDance]

So, we are to ignore the hundreds of racist rants on the subway in NY that show up on YouTube? Or other public videos of racist wankers?

Australia is not a racism free country. It sucks but there is no point pretending otherwise. What it is not is some weird bastion of racial hatred that encompasses everyone who lives here.



And that would make you wrong.

I can't argue with someone who thinks the numbers back up their claim that Australia is 99% white.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/2071.0main+features902012-2013

Not exactly far from 99%, but white (or at least those descending from european ancestry) is around 93-92%. Next biggest are those from asian ancestry.

*Sigh* So did everyone miss the part where I said in the first post that Australia is 92% white? Why are we getting hung up on the "99%" which was clearly a figure of speech?

 

[ThisWreckage]

I think people like to target Australia for racism because we're quite a small country but also very similar culturally to large countries like the US and the UK, so people like to pass their own white guilt onto Australia as some form of trying to appear like a better person by judging a similar country, while also simultaneously ignoring their own country's huge racism problems stemming from their own long long history of slavery and racism.

Yeah, I tend to agree. These threads always end up the same way: people becoming outraged and indignant while pretending things are rosier where they're from.

 

[Dead Man]

*Sigh* So did everyone miss the part where I said in the first post that Australia is 92% white? Why are we getting hung up on the "99%" which was clearly a figure of speech?

I think I got caught up on the part where you were wrong. Using a precentage as a figure of speech when you are talking about the percentage of x that are y is not real useful.

 

[Shaneus]

Nah that's bullshit, the French hate everyone.

Most of all, themselves.

Yeah, I tend to agree. These threads always end up the same way: people becoming outraged and indignant while pretending things are rosier where they're from.

So, by "people", you're referring to Australians? Oh, so it's only us who are wrong then. Good to know.

BRB, just going to walk down the street to find some Aboriginals people to hurl obscenities at. Wish me luck, I hear that they're really hard to find amongst all us whiteys.

 

[HolyCheck]

Huh? I said that "99%" of people were white. You then asked me where that came from. And I said demographics...are you more likely to run into a white person or some other?

Edit: Saying that you're more likely to deal with other white people is not an attack.

Given that most gaffers live in the big cities, we're more likely to run into a non white.

most of the population out bush would be white (bar Aboriginals).

the mix in the big cities is much higher.

 

[Arozay]

So what's this keyboard warrior upset about exactly?

 

[Myansie]

seen it.

It's pretty common to have Aborigines hurl abuse at you. Alcohol is a hell of a drug.

 

[CrushDance]

I think I got caught up on the part where you were wrong. Using a precentage as a figure of speech when you are talking about the percentage of x that are y is not real useful.

Haha. Wow. I'll make sure to reference older posts from now on.

Most of all, themselves.


So, by "people", you're referring to Australians? Oh, so it's only us who are wrong then. Good to know.

BRB, just going to walk down the street to find some Aboriginals people to hurl obscenities at. Wish me luck, I hear that they're really hard to find amongst all us whiteys.

Thread has jumped the shark. That's not what he said at all. I think this has run its course.

 

[Desavona]

CrushDance another thing you need to understand is that white in Australia is not the same as white in the US.

 

[?oe?oe]

How is Australia 92% "white" (broad fucking term if you actually lived here) when 12% of Australia is Asian? (the majority being in major cities)

 

[ThisWreckage]

Most of all, themselves.


So, by "people", you're referring to Australians? Oh, so it's only us who are wrong then. Good to know.

BRB, just going to walk down the street to find some Aboriginals people to hurl obscenities at. Wish me luck, I hear that they're really hard to find amongst all us whiteys.

No, I was referring to Americans and I'm an American.

 

[roosters93]

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

The CIA's definiton of white doesn't really correlate with the real world. To any normal person australia isn't made up of 92% white people, 7% asian people and 1% indigenous people. That 92% white is a whole mix of ethnicities whose skin colour isn't necessarily the same as mine. WHY DO THEY GET TO CALL THEMSELVES WHITE GODDAMMIT

Okay. For the last time. Australia is not a racist nation. All that was said is that like any other nation or group that is largely composed of a singular shared identity. There is a tendency for those not included in that majority to be overlooked and their voices not heard. And Australia has in the past chosen, and continues; to freely choose which people they let into their country and by how much. Like any other sovereign nation. The only thing being "argued" here is that Australia is a predominantly white country by design and as such a lot of things are passed through the average white persons lens. Is there anything controversial about that?

The problem is that plenty of people in this thread and every thread like this try to purport that Australia actually is a racist nation and is singular in that aspect.

And no there is nothing controversial about that. I don't know who you're arguing with though? We all know our respective dirty histories and we're all trying to ensure equality for our indigenous populations but there's no simple solution.

Really all it boils down to is the simple fact that majorities tend to have problems viewing problems of minorities as being valid ones.

I don't think this is really a problem for the majority (hah) of Australians. We just don't know what to do about their problems.

 

[Log4Girlz]

An NZ guy and a Japanese girl bunked at my place over the weekend.

They both went on a few racist rants about people they've met at places they've travelled to. Using Reactionary-GAF-Logic, NZ and Japanese people are racist as fuck and I'd never want to visit their countries.

That's the spirit.

 

[CrushDance]

CrushDance another thing you need to understand is that white in Australia is not the same as white in the US.

I know that. There are clear and major differences between the white identity of the two and even with that of minorities. But I tend to think that has to do with their small numbers and the lack of any large scale interaction.(Everyone relax) Anyway, like I said. Talking about class and race always tends to bring out some... frustration in people. And I'll freely admit that my initial reaction was a bit over the top based on my own experiences. I can't say for sure what Australia *is like* based on word of mouth alone. But because of personal experiences like I said, I find it "easier" to err on the side of caution.

The CIA's definiton of white doesn't really correlate with the real world. To any normal person australia isn't made up of 92% white people, 7% asian people and 1% indigenous people. That 92% white is a whole mix of ethnicities whose skin colour isn't necessarily the same as mine. WHY DO THEY GET TO CALL THEMSELVES WHITE GODDAMMIT



The problem is that plenty of people in this thread and every thread like this try to purport that Australia actually is a racist nation and is singular in that aspect.

And no there is nothing controversial about that. I don't know who you're arguing with though? We all know our respective dirty histories and we're all trying to ensure equality for our indigenous populations but there's no simple solution.


I don't think this is really a problem for the majority (hah) of Australians. We just don't know what to do about their problems.

White people as defined through history are people of European descent. I know that Australians themselves do not necessarily subscribe to that view; but it can't be understated enough how stereotypes and ideologies, flow around the world. For example, I have a friend who is from Africa who when he first came here; was quite jarred by the "black" label that people of African descent are labelled with in western societies(And hence internationally). I won't pretend to tell anyone what they are, that's not my decision or concern. But Australians are predominately "white".

How is Australia 92% "white" (broad fucking term if you actually lived here) when 12% of Australia is Asian? (the majority being in major cities)

Two things. When you say "Asian" what do you mean? Second, can you source your numbers? And of course it's a broad term. That's the point of these labels. There is a vast amount of human diversity on individual continents. It's not me who came up those terms.

 

[ItAintEasyBeinCheesy]

How is Australia 92% "white" (broad fucking term if you actually lived here) when 12% of Australia is Asian? (the majority being in major cities)

White people doing the maths.

 

[?oe?oe]

Two things. When you say "Asian" what do you mean? Second, can you source your numbers? And of course it's a broad term. That's the point of these labels. There is a vast amount of human diversity on individual continents. It's not me who came up those terms.

People of Asian descent (south/southeast/east asia).

Source from the latest Australian Census. Here's an article on it: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...res-ancestries-and-faiths-20120621-20r3g.html

I could get the raw data from the ABS, but their site is horrible to go through.

I understand the broad term, but here in Australia, we actually say Europeans, slavics etc to distinguish people, because we're not all "True Blue Aussies", so to speak. I understand the conflict, but we don't see it so generally over here, since we are so multicultural.

 

[TwiztidElf]

Lol at the white knights.
For other people to respond in this situation is just going to escalate it. Nothing more.
If cowardly racist dickhead got physical, I think you'd see people step up.
As a regular Brisbane public transport user, I see ridiculous levels of stupidity every day.

 

[Devolution]

Lol at the white knights.
For other people to respond in this situation is just going to escalate it. Nothing more.
If cowardly racist dickhead got physical, I think you'd see people step up.
As a regular Brisbane public transport user, I see ridiculous levels of stupidity every day.

What.

 

[Router]

How is Australia 92% "white" (broad fucking term if you actually lived here) when 12% of Australia is Asian? (the majority being in major cities)

and where do all the other ethnicities fit in?


African Australian
Albanian Australian
American Australian
Anglo-Celtic Australian
Asian Australian
Assyrian Australian
Bosnian Australian
Chinese Australian
Cornish Australian
Croatian Australian
Danish Australian
English Australian
European Australian
Filipino Australian
French Australian
German Australian
Greek Australian
Indian Australian
Indigenous Australian (including Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander)
Iranian Australian
Irish Australian
Italian Australian
Korean Australian
Latin American Australian
Lebanese Australian
Macedonian Australian
Pakistani Australian
Portuguese Australian
Scottish Australian
Serbian Australian
South African Australian
Sudanese Australian
Taiwanese Australian
Welsh Australian

 

[TwiztidElf]

What.

Now who's being racist.
Only kidding. It was an honest mistake.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=white+knight+syndrome

 

[Devolution]

Now who's being racist.
Only kidding. It was an honest mistake.
(You know how super-feminist men are called 'white knights'?)

I know what white knights are, I don't understand your usage here.

 

[Shaneus]

No, I was referring to Americans and I'm an American.

Ah, okay then. Could've been interpreted multiple ways. You have my apologies

 

[jorma]

I always suspected Danes weren't really european!

 

[Grand Funk Carwash]

and where do all the other ethnicities fit in?


African Australian
Albanian Australian
American Australian
Anglo-Celtic Australian
Asian Australian
Assyrian Australian
Bosnian Australian
Chinese Australian
Cornish Australian
Croatian Australian
Danish Australian
English Australian
European Australian
Filipino Australian
French Australian
German Australian
Greek Australian
Indian Australian
Indigenous Australian (including Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander)
Iranian Australian
Irish Australian
Italian Australian
Korean Australian
Latin American Australian
Lebanese Australian
Macedonian Australian
Pakistani Australian
Portuguese Australian
Scottish Australian
Serbian Australian
South African Australian
Sudanese Australian
Taiwanese Australian
Welsh Australian

I think the ethnicity statistics are a bit misleading in that you can select two ethnicity (one from each parent obviously). For Example: I suppose technically I would select English and Australian as my ethnicity but there are arguments to be made for Italian and Irish (at what point do you stop being from where your ancestors came from?).

 

[CrushDance]

People of Asian descent (south/southeast/east asia).

Source from the latest Australian Census. Here's an article on it: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...res-ancestries-and-faiths-20120621-20r3g.html

I could get the raw data from the ABS, but their site is horrible to go through.

I understand the broad term, but here in Australia, we actually say Europeans, slavics etc to distinguish people, because we're not all "True Blue Aussies", so to speak. I understand the conflict, but we don't see it so generally over here, since we are so multicultural.

It's the complete opposite here for the most part. It's really:

White: Pale skin
Black: dark skin
Asian: East Asian
Arab: If they wear a scarf of any sort
Indian: If they have brown skin and it's not curly

I'll agree that it's really stupid that we still use such terms in modern society and forcibly assign labels to people. I actually did not know that Australians are more "fractured" in how they view themselves until this thread. To be honest I always thought of them as how whites view themselves here: As being just white people and way less on ethnic/national backgrounds. In a way it's more of what true multiculturalism is when you have people of various nationalities/ethnic groups living together and acknowledging those differences as simply differences instead of pigeon-holing into the "big 3" that we in north America find ourselves in of Black, White, Asian and "What should we call south Americans?".

It's always fascinated me how native Australians are not viewed as "black" in modern Australian culture.

 

[TwiztidElf]

I know what white knights are, I don't understand your usage here.

"A state of mind whereby a male feels the need or obligation to rescue maidens from unfortunate circumstances."
Same but saving victims of racism instead of maidens.
Bah! I'm out of this dumb thread. I'm going to the 'What I'm sick of thread' to voice my opinion about the idiots in society getting a global soapbox.
Australia has uneducated morons, the same as anywhere else. Public transport is where they usually congregate.

 

[Jintor]

I think the ethnicity statistics are a bit misleading in that you can select two ethnicity (one from each parent obviously). For Example: I suppose technically I would select English and Australian as my ethnicity but there are arguments to be made for Italian and Irish (at what point do you stop being from where your ancestors came from?).

If you're Australian? Probably never. Apart from indigenous Australians we're all colonists, ya ken.

 

[Grand Funk Carwash]

It's the complete opposite here for the most part. It's really:

White: Pale skin
Black: dark skin
Asian: East Asian
Arab: If they wear a scarf of any sort
Indian: If they have brown skin and it's not curly

I'll agree that it's really stupid that we still use such terms in modern society and forcibly assign labels to people. I actually did not know that Australians are more "fractured" in how they view themselves until this thread. To be honest I always thought of them as how whites view themselves here: As being just white people and way less on ethnic/national backgrounds. In a way it's more of what true multiculturalism is when you have people of various nationalities/ethnic groups living together and acknowledging those differences as simply differences instead of pigeon-holing into the "big 3" that we in north America find ourselves in of Black, White, Asian and "where did Arabs come from?".

It's always fascinated me how native Australians are not viewed as "black" in modern Australian culture.

No they consider themselves black but they aren't black in the classic European sense (descended from Africans). Depending on who you talk to - its a controversial subject in Australia as it can be offensive to imply the Aboriginal people had not inhabited Australia since time immemorial - their genetic lineage is from South East Asia or further west.

 

[Dynamite Shikoku]

Loud nutter on public transport? Shocked.

 

[Router]

Obviously some people here have very strong opinions regarding the issue weather or not they have actually visited the place.

The ABC did an amazing series this year and its a fantastic watch. Its mostly focused on the Indian media's massive beat up over racial tensions. Still very enlightening.

Dumb, Drunk and Racist...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRqOFW9j0rI

 

[AdventureRacing]

Those stats on the amount of white people in Australia come as a pretty huge surprise to me. Even here in Newcastle which is pretty much renowned for being very un multicultural i would think there would be less than 92% white people.

In the major cities i've been to that number would have to be a lot lower and they make up a significant amount of Australia's total population. Especially in Sydney, the times i've been there i would say the majority of people i saw in my travels wouldn't have been white.

What information do they use to determine this? I just don't see how that number could be even close to correct.

 

[Mohonky]

i want to see an aboriginal do this to a white guy

Just goto the Valley in Brisbane on a Friday or Saturday night. I got told "fuck off home you white cunt" on more than a few occasions. This was usually followed by threats to kick my head in.

But dont worry, I'm the racist prick apparently.

 

[Sutton Dagger]

It's pretty common to have Aborigines hurl abuse at you. Alcohol is a hell of a drug.

A thread about Australia's problem with racism and then you pull this shit. Thanks for making the rest of us look like fucking morons. Smh.

 

[Grand Funk Carwash]

Those stats on the amount of white people in Australia come as a pretty huge surprise to me. Even here in Newcastle which is pretty much renowned for being very un multicultural i would think there would be less than 92% white people.

In the major cities i've been to that number would have to be a lot lower and they make up a significant amount of Australia's total population. Especially in Sydney, the times i've been there i would say the majority of people i saw in my travels wouldn't have been white.

What information do they use to determine this? I just don't see how that number could be even close to correct.

As I said I think its an issue of being able to nominate two ethnicities. If you were English/Irish you would bump up the percentage of both.

So if 10% of the population were English, 10% were Irish and 10% were English/Irish you would end up with 20% English and 20% Irish (for 40% of the pop.) even though people that are English and/or Irish are only 30% in reality.

I'm shit with stats so this may be completely misinterpreted.