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Mosul dam engineers warn it could fail at any time, killing 1m people -- Guardian

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kess

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/02/mosul-dam-engineers-warn-it-could-fail-at-any-time-killing-1m-people

Iraqi engineers involved in building the Mosul dam 30 years ago have warned that the risk of its imminent collapse and the consequent death toll could be even worse than reported.

They pointed out that pressure on the dam’s compromised structure was building up rapidly as winter snows melted and more water flowed into the reservoir, bringing it up to its maximum capacity, while the sluice gates normally used to relieve that pressure were jammed shut.

The Iraqi engineers also said the failure to replace machinery or assemble a full workforce more than a year after Islamic State temporarily held the dam means that the chasms in the porous rock under the dam were getting bigger and more dangerous every day.

The engineers warned that potential loss of life from a sudden catastrophic collapse of the Mosul dam could be even greater than the 500,000 officially estimated, as they said many people could die in the resulting mass panic, with a 20-metre-high flood wave hitting the city of Mosul and then rolling on down the Tigris valley through Tikrit and Samarra to Baghdad.

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Nasrat Adamo, the dam’s former chief engineer who spent most of his professional career shoring it up in the face of fundamental flaws in its construction, said that the structure would only survive with round-the-clock work with teams filling in holes in the porous bedrock under the structure, a process known as grouting. But that level of maintenance, dating back to just after the dam’s construction in 1984, evaporated after the Isis occupation.

“We used to have 300 people working 24 hours in three shifts but very few of these workers have come back. There are perhaps 30 people there now,” Adamo said in a telephone interview from Sweden, where he works as a consultant.

“The machines for grouting have been looted. There is no cement supply. They can do nothing. It is going from bad to worse, and it is urgent. All we can do is hold our hearts.”

At the same time as the bedrock is getting weaker and more porous, the water pressure on the dam is building as spring meltwater flows into the reservoir behind it. Giant gates that would normally be used to ease the pressure by allowing water to run through are stuck.

tldr; numerous engineering hazards were ignored by the Saddam regime when the edifice was built back in the 1980s, and the ISIS occupation destroyed and displaced much of the equipment and workers needed to maintain the dam.

Last month the U.S. Embassy released a statement regarding a serious danger of the dam's collapse, and the Prime Minister of Iraq has made a non-binding recommendation to move at least three and a half miles from the river.

Despite this, there are still Iraqi government officials who insist the dam is not in imminent danger:

The Iraqi Minister of Water Resources Muhsin al-Shammary announced on Sunday that rumors of the Mosul dam's collapse were aimed at halting state affairs.

In a press release published on the ministry’s website, Shammary denied all claims stating that, “The ministry has stressed multiple times that the situation in Mosul dam is nothing to worry about; however, the news about the dams collapse is surprising.”

Besides the constant maintenance schedule, the dam was considered enough of a hazard that numerous studies and short term repairs have been implemented since the U.S. led invasion in 2003. According to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, the situation isn't getting any better.
 

Geist-

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Can't say I'm surprised, I just know that it's going to be tragic unless they can get some stabilization in the region and some competent people in the government.
 

akira28

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"a non-binding recommendation to move at least three and a half miles from the river."


from the Iraqi top leader. and the local leaders all say "nothing to worry about, nothing to see here, everyone go home. completely safe.
 
ISIS probably want the dam to fail :/
I feel awful saying this, but I was extremely surprised last year that they didn't destroy it outright upon having to retreat.
Kinda doubt it. Isn't Mosul like a terrorist theme park at this point?
Scorched earth and whatnot. But theoretical plans to grow the city are the only reason I can think of, which they might have outweighed with assured destruction farther downstream.
 

Risible

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"with a 20-metre-high flood wave hitting the city of Mosul and then rolling on down the Tigris valley through Tikrit and Samarra to Baghdad."

As they say over in Brit-land, "fooooking 'ell!" That's scary as shit.
 

Breakage

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Damn, that's a terrifying prospect. Imagine being in the path of this when it gives way. Sounds like it's only a matter of time.
 

MJPIA

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20 meters is 65 feet.
Damn.
“The fact that the bottom outlets are jammed is the thing that really worries us,” said Ansari, now an engineering professor at the Luleå University of Technology in Sweden. “In April and May, there will be a lot more snow melting and it will bring plenty of water into the reservoir. The water level is now 308 metres but it will go up to over 330 metres. And the dam is not as before. The caverns underneath have increased. I don’t think the dam will withstand that pressure.

“If the dam fails, the water will arrive in Mosul in four hours. It will arrive in Baghdad in 45 hours. Some people say there could be half a million people killed, some say a million. I imagine it will be more in the absence of a good evacuation plan.”
He said the government policy response, calling on the local population to move at least 6km from the river Tigris, was “ridiculous”. The US embassy in Baghdad has urged American citizens to leave the area.

“What are all these people, millions of people, supposed to do when they get 6km away? There is no support for them there. Nothing to help them live.”
Anyone left in Mosul with no place to go is in a very bad spot.

BBC has this image
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And also this bit.
"The dam is today in danger because of the erosion at the natural gypsum base under the water and serious erosion at the flow gates.
"The joints at the two main gates have been dislocated vertically and horizontally, which could lead to the collapse of the dam but we don't know when. It could happen next month, next year or in five years' time. We actually don't know when."

This is not going to end well.
 

wenis

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Is there no plan for an evacuation or is that impossible due to it being ISIL controlled.
 

kess

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Unfortunately, the cement plant that supplied the concrete for the grouting is in occupied Mosul.

Here's a more up-to-date assessment of the dam from 2015. anyone with more than a passing interest in geology will immediately recognize what a ill-advised prestige project this dam was.

The Fatha (ex-Lower Fars) Formation (Middle Miocene) is the predominant stratigraphic unit in the Mosul Dam area. It is about 250 meters thick near Mosul. Marls, chalky limestone, gypsum, anhydrite, and limestone form a layered sequence of rocks under the foundation of the dam. The foundation of the dam is mainly resting on the Fatha Formation (Middle Miocene) which is highly karstified. Karstic limestone and the development of solution cavities within the gypsum and anhydrite layers are the main geological features under the foundation of the dam.
 
Not like to the extent of the current situation in Iraq with 1 million people, but there was a flood that happened in Pennsylvania, that happened back in the day, from a dam that burst and it was catastrophic: Link
 
Is it possible to do a 'controlled burn' of sorts with something of that scale? If it's going to go sooner rather than later seems like it would be better to do it yourself.
 

Walpurgis

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Let's weigh the lives of 1 million people against a possibility that this is just a political ploy.
If there is anything the international community can be relied up for, it is denying reality until it is too late (kind of like how the war in Syria got so bad).
Kinda doubt it. Isn't Mosul like a terrorist theme park at this point?
That's what I thought. Maybe the west could make a deal with ISIS to allow engineers to maintain the damn. I know that ISIS is psycho but if that dam falls, their capital city is gone, all of their subjects are gone and they will be devastated. No one wants this.
 
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