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[Dragona Akehi]

26", 16:9, true 1080p? Absolutely possible, and 1080p being the core resolution is even likely. But expect a price premium at first, as basically everyone has a lot of money banking on this stuff.

Someone fast forward time to about ~8 years from now already, when these things'll be on every corner for peanuts.

 

[Dragona Akehi]

Seriously. I'm trying not to get too excited, because it's as if Motorola has plucked ideas from my dreams and is implementing them in actual television sets. It's just hard to believe that could be coming within 1-2 years.

I can't believe it either to be honest. There's got to be some sort of catch.

 

[StoOgE]

so, does NEC get a kickback on any and all CNT technology used since they invented them? and are they a publicly held company

 

[Kleegamefan]

You mean flat panel right? Not more than say 5" thick?

The panel itself will be 1/8th of an inch think but back in 2003, Motorola said the entire TVs would be as thick as your index finger, so say, 1-1.5 inches??

Any thinner than that and it might be hard to incorporate interconnects to the NED TV.....even something as compact/intergrated as HDMI would require at least that amount of thickness...

Perhaps wireless connectivity would be a solution but that would boost back up the costs, I would think....

Heh, I'm sure klee has something to say about this too, but the gist of it is that OLED emits it's own light rather than using a backlight as LCD does. There is a big promise of power savings, and the technology has none of the pixel update lag issues of LCD either, but the problem is that the organic components (Organic Light Emitting Diode, OLED) decay quickly depending on the wavelength. Red and Green seem to be under control from an estimated lifetime perspective, but companies have been having trouble getting Blue to last for more than 5000 hours.

Yeah, uneven decay of the Blue Organic Emmitter is the major roadblock for OLEDs....hopefully they will solve that problem, but I think that overall investment in Carbon Nanotube technology (not just CNT Field Emission Displays) makes me think that OLED will have an uphill battle against the CNT horde.....still, Sammy showed THIS 40-inch Widscreen OLED DISPLAY at the SID expo in Boston this week, so development of the tech is obviously pretty advanced and it will be interesting to hear what Sammy has to say about any progress they have made with Blue OLED emmiters....

Although I'm taking a "believe it when I see it" approach, if these figures are correct. imagine how cheap they'll be when the Taiwanese and Chinese get their hands on the technology. They tend to be more concerned with volume over margin, so consumers = win.

Tiwan is already knee deep in Carbon Nanotube TV development:

http://www.etmag.com/publication/magazine/2004-06/72.htm

http://nanotechwire.com/news.asp?nid=1511&ntid=123&pg=1

so, does NEC get a kickback on any and all CNT technology used since they invented them? and are they a publicly held company

I am not sure if NEC gets any money from CNT development (I know Nano-properties have patents on CNT FEDs though) but they are a publicly held company, I believe...

BTW CNTs were discovered by Dr. Sumio Iijima of NEC

http://www.labs.nec.co.jp/Eng/innovative/E1/top.html


Smart guy

I can't believe it either to be honest. There's got to be some sort of catch.

The catch is Motorola was already supposed to be shipping NEDs this year but now they are 1-2 years behind for whatever reason...

 

[Timen]

So we got this down,

- both OLED and CNT are bettere options than LCD and Plasma.
- OLED will be the first to market (???)
- We can expect both OLED and CNT to be cheaper than LCD and Plasma
- We can expect the first 40"+ screens around 2007

right?

I think I won't be investing my money in a LCD tv, i'll live by using my
old tv for another year when the next-generation consoles comes by.

 

[Sagitario]

I hope so. I don't have $800 for a TV, but I also don't need something that's 50". A cheaper 30" model would be perfect for me.

This technology sounds amazing -- it could be the key to making HDTVs a truly mass market product.

Me too... a cheap 30" model be fine =) ...

But 2 years... that means I have to keep my crappy TV for 2 years... :_|

 

[thorns]

Even if they cost $400 to manufacture, if these things have better image quality than LCD or Plasma and are smaller than CRTs , I 'll bet that they'll try to sell it at a premium, since well, it is going to be a premium product. There's no way it will retail for $800.

I mean when CDs came out they cost more than tapes, even though they were cheaper to manufacture..

 

[xabre]

Even if they cost $400 to manufacture, if these things have better image quality than LCD or Plasma and are smaller than CRTs , I 'll bet that they'll try to sell it at a premium, since well, it is going to be a premium product. There's no way it will retail for $800.

This is a good point.

People seem to be all too quick to jump on the 'production costs are cheap so the end retail costs will also be cheap' bandwagon, and thus fail to consider the economics of price determination. If there are only going to be a few manufacturers supplying these TVs to market then where is the drive to so drastically undercut LCD/Plasma TV prices? The NED TV's can simply undercut existing flat panel displays slightly while their technical advantages are promoted relative to existing technologies. I have no doubts as to the manufacturing savings that will be offered by next-generation display technologies, but to think this advantage will instantaneously transfer to market is not realistic.

 

[homerhendrix]

With several companies using Motorola's technology wouldn't competition push the price down fairly quickly though. Also does anyone know when in 2006 we could start to see NED technology in televisions? I need some reason to hold off buying an HDTV this fall.

 

[mr2mike]

I need some reason to hold off buying an HDTV this fall.

If our TV isn't broken, it can wait.

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

Carbon Nanotube =

 

[Leatherface]

marked for reading.

Thanks Klee.