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[Dr.Morris79]

I mean the USA does include Detroit, so he's not wrong.

..You have a point

 

[DeafTourette]

demented waffle I know. I was floored while reading it.

 

[Mattdaddy]

You'll definitely want to buy a whole bunch of different colored rifle slings.

If your AR15 doesn't match your outfit you're gonna look real silly in social settings.

Spoiler: Just kidding

You only need black. It goes with everything.

 

[rm082e]

Here is my view of the US:
Dystopian state
Excellent at accumulating capital to maximise shareholders returns
Market is very flexible, people are willing to bet on idea or just "we will figure it out as we go along" (unless you are talking about technical field, best no to play with people's lives there)
Terrible place for everyone below the average in terms of education, resources, wealth, etc.
Americans are kind and friendly people but all that is surface-level
People love guns
Serial murderer or mass pedophile at every corner


Any advice someone (both Freedom People as well as Europeans that moved there) that can give me a rundown of key points I need to pay attention to or that will be a huge shock when coming from Europe?

Probably the biggest one will be how much more spread out everything is. We have a lot more land and our cities are newer. If you're going to live anywhere in the US outside of NY, Chicago, LA, or San Francisco, you're going to need a car - two if you have a family.

Since you mentioned Texas, you should know this:

• It gets really hot in the summer. You'll basically survive moving from one air conditioned spot to another (home to car to office to car to store to car to home).
• If you're going to any major city in Texas, you should explore the cuisine. All the major cities in Texas have multiple great restaurants for every culture and style of food. Obviously BBQ is a big thing, but don't ignore the Indian, Italian, French, Japanese, etc.
• Did I mention you'll need cars? All the cities in Texas are big and spread out. Make sure the AC is charged up!
• Use the internet to learn about your city and see what's available - public parks, clubs, libraries, festivals, etc. There's lots of free/cheap stuff to do and you can use those things early on to get a feel for the area and meet people
• Texas is a melting pot. The "Texas Triangle" is one of the fastest growing areas of the US, so lots of people are flocking there for work.
• Make a point to network, meet people, etc. Encourage your kids to do the same.

Dystopian state

I think this is completely down to your opinion and how much philosophical issues influence your experience of life vs. your every day experiences. If you move to Austin with your family, get a place to live, put your kids in school, and try to engage with the community around you, I think you're going to see it's fine. If you want to go into the downtown area and look for the homeless people shuffling along the streets with no shoes and get upset that they don't have it as fair as the people in the suburbs living in nice houses, you can do that...or you could just not.

Excellent at accumulating capital to maximise shareholders returns

I mean that's corporations, not the experience of living here. Again, how much do philosophical issues affect you compared to day-to-day experiences?

Terrible place for everyone below the average in terms of education, resources, wealth, etc.

The "average" American still has it better than 90% of the rest of humans alive today, and 99.99% who have ever lived. If you're coming from an upper-middle class lifestyle in a Western European country, you may find the upper-middle class lifestyle in America is less sophisticated and refined, but to call it "terrible" here is hyperbole. If you're valuable enough for a company to bring you in from another country, you're going to be well above that average and doing well.

Americans are kind and friendly people but all that is surface-level

I would strongly disagree with this. I think Americans in general are going to react to you how you treat them. If you meet people with a big smile, a hand shake, and a friendly attitude, 9/10 are going to like you and be friendly. Sure there are some assholes, but generally speaking just do your best to be warm, polite, and friendly. You'll get the same back from the people you meet.

People love guns

Yes. Especially in Texas. I live in Oklahoma and it's the same here. But for me, what that has meant is:

• Maybe a half dozen times in the last 25 years, I've been in a public place and seen someone open carrying a pistol on their hip. For me, it is unnerving when I see that, but the people who open carry are almost always older white men, and they are the least likely group to try and start shit.
• You never know who is carrying, so again - be warm, polite, and friendly. Given you have a family, you don't sound like the kind of person who's likely to start shit with people, so you'll probably never have an issue.
• Despite the fear mongering from the media and activists: If you're not a mentally unhealthy person who's potentially going to commit suicide, and you're not engaging in criminal activity, and you don't live in a really high crime area, you basically have nothing to worry about. The statistics for gun violence in the US are heavily lop-sided in a couple of different ways.

Serial murderer or mass pedophile at every corner

Not to be a jerk, but I'd be more worried about those things in a lot of Western European countries than the US at this point. And I'd worry about those things more in some other states in the US than Texas.

 

[demented waffle]

Some of y'all might be breaking this down too far.

 

[poodaddy]

I never did that, it's like calling French cowards.

Joking....mostly. You'll be alright OP. I will say though, if you move to Texas,.....careful what you say and how you come off to people. There are places in the world where you can run your mouth and not worry about consequences, Texas ain't one of em. Just be respectful and you'll be A-ok.

 

[kevboard]

At least these do not restrict my movement and not require shots for work.

no but your lifetime might be restricted by a trigger-happy cop

 

[AJUMP23]

People love guns

Have you ever shot a gun? Shoot a rifle, then shoot some handguns and tell me you don't like them.

I use to have the AK47 that had no sights, and I still never missed. It was beautiful.

 

[demented waffle]

no but your lifetime might be restricted by a trigger-happy cop.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Have you ever shot a gun? Shoot a rifle, then shoot some handguns and tell me you don't like them.

I use to have the AK47 that had no sights, and I still never missed. It was beautiful.

I am actually really tempted to at least try shorting a real gun. As for AK47 - that thing is like a homing missiles in gun form just point in a general direction and shoot, you will hit. Also it never fails and never jams, at least a that’s the reputation in Eastern Europe.

 

[AJUMP23]

I am actually really tempted to at least try shorting a real gun. As for AK47 - that thing is like a homing missiles in gun form just point in a general direction and shoot, you will hit. Also it never fails and never jams, at least a that’s the reputation in Eastern Europe.

AKs and ARs all are excellent. You shoot, you will like it too. Just have good trigger discipline.

 

[Mattdaddy]

Yes. Especially in Texas. I live in Oklahoma and it's the same here. But for me, what that has meant is:

• Maybe a half dozen times in the last 25 years, I've been in a public place and seen someone open carrying a pistol on their hip. For me, it is unnerving when I see that, but the people who open carry are almost always older white men, and they are the least likely group to try and start shit.

I second this, I've lived almost my entire life in Oklahoma & Texas and its pretty rare to see someone open carry a gun.

Yeah people love guns, yeah they own them. But they aren't just out being flaunted on a daily basis haha.

But I think they might actually grow on you. Ive got a buddy that moved here from London and got his citizenship... he was pretty nervous about guns at first. Now he owns like 10 lmao.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Yes. Especially in Texas. I live in Oklahoma and it's the same here. But for me, what that has meant is:

• Maybe a half dozen times in the last 25 years, I've been in a public place and seen someone open carrying a pistol on their hip. For me, it is unnerving when I see that, but the people who open carry are almost always older white men, and they are the least likely group to try and start shit.
• You never know who is carrying, so again - be warm, polite, and friendly. Given you have a family, you don't sound like the kind of person who's likely to start shit with people, so you'll probably never have an issue.
• Despite the fear mongering from the media and activists: If you're not a mentally unhealthy person who's potentially going to commit suicide, and you're not engaging in criminal activity, and you don't live in a really high crime area, you basically have nothing to worry about. The statistics for gun violence in the US are heavily lop-sided in a couple of different ways.

If you know what to look for you would likely be surprised how many people conceal carry even in places like WalMart

Honestly I carry 99% of the time I don't care where I go

It started from living out in the country and coming home sometimes late at night and having coyotes in the area and I just got used to having it with me at all times

 

[poppabk]

Yes, we applied and will know in May.

Anyone can apply, but you are only eligible if your country of origin has a low enough number of residents in the US.
Surprised that no-one brought up the green card lottery with all the H1B stuff as it is not based on any merit criteria and is purely to increase diversity.

 

[Kings Field]

 

[rm082e]

If you know what to look for you would likely be surprised how many people conceal carry even in places like WalMart

Honestly I carry 99% of the time I don't care where I go

It started from living out in the country and coming home sometimes late at night and having coyotes in the area and I just got used to having it with me at all times

Yeah, I have no connection to gun culture. I grew up in a suburban house with no guns. As a young guy I was thinking about getting into shooting when I met my wife, and she told me when we first met she wouldn't live in a house with a gun. I never cared enough about it to press the issue.

 

[rubik's dude]

You got called out for saying Texas is conservative/republican except for Austin

Wrong, I said: "Texas on the whole is generally conservative/republican, except for Austin."

I did not say: "Every city in Texas is 100% conservative/republican, excluding only Austin." But that's what you inferred, and you got all pissy. I've been trying to tell you this entire time that's not what I said, but you're not listening.

I singled out Austin because the OP wants to move there, not because I'm shitting on every other part of Texas.

 

[Days like these...]

Wrong, I said: "Texas is on the whole generally conservative/republican, except for Austin."

I did not say: "Every city in Texas is 100% conservative/republican, excluding only Austin." But that's what you inferred, and you got all pissy. I've been trying to tell you this entire time that's not what I said, but you're not listening.

I singled out Austin because the OP wants to move there, not because I'm shitting on every other part of Texas.

What does "except for Austin" mean I'm not a native English speaker maybe your grasp of English is better than mine. Keep digging that hole.

 

[rubik's dude]

What does "except for Austin" mean I'm not a native English speaker maybe your grasp of English is better than mine. Keep digging that hole.

Proud of you, man. You did your own research and found out that "except" and "exclude" are two different words.

Your next assignment is to look up what the word "similar" means. I'll help:

What does "without being identical" mean?

 

[DrFigs]

Can't believe I'm writing this...

There exists a small chance (Green Card Lottery) I will be moving with my family (3 kids) to the US in the next 12-18 months. We don't have a fixed place yet, probably Austin / Texas or North Carolina.

Here is my view of the US:
Dystopian state
Excellent at accumulating capital to maximise shareholders returns
Market is very flexible, people are willing to bet on idea or just "we will figure it out as we go along" (unless you are talking about technical field, best no to play with people's lives there)
Terrible place for everyone below the average in terms of education, resources, wealth, etc.
Americans are kind and friendly people but all that is surface-level
People love guns
Serial murderer or mass pedophile at every corner


Any advice someone (both Freedom People as well as Europeans that moved there) that can give me a rundown of key points I need to pay attention to or that will be a huge shock when coming from Europe?

You will need a car. Don’t forget to tip your waiter at restaurants and bars.

 

[Topher]

If you know what to look for you would likely be surprised how many people conceal carry even in places like WalMart

Honestly I carry 99% of the time I don't care where I go

It started from living out in the country and coming home sometimes late at night and having coyotes in the area and I just got used to having it with me at all times

Plenty of folks around here carry, but not concealed. Just holstered. Not a big deal to anyone really.

 

[DeVeAn]

Well half of us get tornados or Derechos. If not that, it's really heavy snow or hurricanes. The ones who don't have to worry about that get earthquakes. There aren't too many safe spaces from these. Australia has to worry about fauna trying to kill them. We gotta worry about Mother Nature. lol

or Smoked out! Not 420 kind lol.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Plenty of folks around here carry, but not concealed. Just holstered. Not a big deal to anyone really.

More people carrying as well since more States are going to open carry without a permit but you still need a permit to conceal carry which doesn't make a lot of sense

 

[Days like these...]

Proud of you, man. You did your own research and found out that "except" and "exclude" are two different words.

Your next assignment is to look up what the word "similar" means. I'll help:

What does "without being identical" mean?

You didn't answer the question. Don't change the subject focus on what you said and the word you used. What does "except for Austin" mean? Explain to me where or how "except for Austin" includes other cities.

 

[Topher]

More people carrying as well since more States are going to open carry without a permit but you still need a permit to conceal carry which doesn't make a lot of sense

Don't need a permit at all here in Georgia.

Have you ever shot a gun? Shoot a rifle, then shoot some handguns and tell me you don't like them.

I use to have the AK47 that had no sights, and I still never missed. It was beautiful.

We have a M4, a couple of shotguns, couple of pistols. We go to the local range every now and then and shoot. It is a lot of fun. They have full machine guns you can rent as well. That's a blast, but expensive.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[DeVeAn]

I'll add, My wife was born and raised in the Philippines. Now an American citizen. The shit on the news have people in the Philippines thinking its wild west with guns...Not a thing lol. Also, they think healthcare is freeeeeee LMAO.

Point is don't pay too much attention to the "news".

 

[Topher]

Cyberpunkd after a week in the US...

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Anyone can apply, but you are only eligible if your country of origin has a low enough number of residents in the US.
Surprised that no-one brought up the green card lottery with all the H1B stuff as it is not based on any merit criteria and is purely to increase diversity.

We are cheating with my wife's country of origin because I am 100% sure you dont't want either Polish or fake French in the US.

You will need a car. Don’t forget to tip your waiter at restaurants and bars.

I do not agree, but I understand the concept of tipping in the US. I would have preferred the prices to go up and just reflect the salary + tips but it is what it is. I'm not going to give shit to my potential future country.

Cyberpunkd after a week in the US...

Going to be honest, it sounds vaguely arousing.

 

[Pegasus Actual]

This feels like a bit of a troll... let me see if I remember your lore, mon ami. You're the world's biggest France fanboy, but are originally from Poland, facet? Kind of a discount Chopin?

If things are so great in France just stay there! For my part I keep eyeing places in the US I might move to in order to get away from Nancy's Nephew and ol' Watermelonhead here in Cali but just about everything has gotten super expensive.

The only real tip I have for you is that our food is fake and you need to know secret places to find real food until MAHA fixes it.

Austin's cool, was going to invest in real estate there about 15 years ago but decided not to so whoops I'm not retired now, better luck next life... So anyway, it got expensive. Carolina? Never been.

What you doing for work? Something Work From Home that you're keeping from the old continent? Just looking to show up in the USA one day and offer up your talents to the highest bidder?

 

[Cyberpunkd]

By dealing with many governments in the past - I know one thing you don't fuck around is all the official stuff. Death, taxes and all that.

 

[rubik's dude]

You didn't answer the question. Don't change the subject focus on what you said and the word you used. What does "every city but Austin" mean? Explain to me where or how "every city but Austin" includes other cities.

No you didn't answer the question. What did you mean when you said, "Austin is a conservative/republican city"? You realize that's not true, right? I thought a native born Texan would know better.

 

[Complistic]

I've heard Americans actually obeying 4-way stop signs surprises Europeans. So look out for that I guess?

 

[Cyberpunkd]

This feels like a bit of a troll... let me see if I remember your lore, mon ami. You're the world's biggest France fanboy, but are originally from Poland, facet? Kind of a discount Chopin?

If things are so great in France just stay there! For my part I keep eyeing places in the US I might move to in order to get away from Nancy's Nephew and ol' Watermelonhead here in Cali but just about everything has gotten super expensive.

The only real tip I have for you is that our food is fake and you need to know secret places to find real food until MAHA fixes it.

Austin's cool, was going to invest in real estate there about 15 years ago but decided not to so whoops I'm not retired now, better luck next life... So anyway, it got expensive. Carolina? Never been.

What you doing for work? Something Work From Home that you're keeping from the old continent? Just looking to show up in the USA one day and offer up your talents to the highest bidder?

It is not a troll, but I could have worded the OP in a less antagonistic way, I agree that was a mistake on my part, I apologise.

I work in IT enterprise sales, almost exclusively with the US prospect atm.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I've heard Americans actually obeying 4-way stop signs surprises Europeans. So look out for that I guess?

I tried Googling it, I don't understand why you would have a Stop sign from every direction. Then again as Eastern European by origin I found French obsession with roundabouts hilarious where you can just have two roads intersection in the middle of nowhere. French will still build a roundabout there just because.

 

[Rival]

Just know that half of the people do not want you here.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Just know that half of the people do not want you here.

That's really rude and presumptuous of you to say that

That number is way higher than half

 

[Days like these...]

No you didn't answer the question. What did you mean when you said, "Austin is a conservative/republican city"? You realize that's not true, right? I thought a native born Texan would know better.

So you're resorting to lying now? Quote my post where I said "Austin is a conservative/republican city" its a place for young white liberal virtue signalers that drives away black and brown minorities

 

[Nintendo's Witch]

Clap after every meal if you don't want to be deported.

 

[El Muerto]

Some people are genuinely nice. This is typically in the poorer states (red states) though. People are much dumber in these states but help you if you're stranded with a flat tire or if you need food. Rich people are assholes to everyone.
Stay away from rural areas at least 20mi outside major cities. That's where typically all the inbred morons in their big pickup trucks live. They're usually racist af and super religious.
Dont live in the south part of any metropolitan city. It's usually the roughest part of the city. Suburbs are ok.
Everything is going up in price, you'll need to get a decent job to survive. Something at least $20hr.
Our healthcare is awful. Only way to get insurance is through a job or through state welfare. Private insurance you have to pay thousands to meet your decuctible, and 20%-50% of the inflated hospital bill. If you're sick do not move here.
We love food. You'll see fast food, thai, chinese, mexican, bbq, and burger restaurants on almost every major street corner.
We like cars, we dont really have any walkable cities. Our infrastructure is like 80 years behind other countries.
Lawyers love suing people. If you get in a wreck you can get sued. And you can sue whoever you want if you have the money.
Cops are thugs. They can literally rob you and not give back your money. This is rare but it does happen and it happened to some people near me trying to buy some land with cash. They can throw you in jail on bogus charges causing you to get fired.
People love shooting guns. They're fun to shoot. But we dont have gun control so mentally ill people can get a gun easily. Also keep your bed away from windows because during holidays people will shoot their guns in the air and the next day you see kids died from a bullet that came back down.
We definitely have our pros and cons. But it's going to get worse with this kleptocratic government. We're the richest country in the world and people are one paycheck away from losing their homes.

 

[Pegasus Actual]

It is not a troll, but I could have worded the OP in a less antagonistic way, I agree that was a mistake on my part, I apologise.

Don't apologize to me, I love antagonism!

I work in IT enterprise sales, almost exclusively with the US prospect atm.

I see... you're the friendly guy with the promises and then the contract is signed and what the heck everyone is all of a sudden on Pakistan time and I'm desperate to do everything by email so I don't have to try and decode that accent over a Zoom call. Yeah you should do quite well in America. Welcome!

 

[Rival]

That's really rude and presumptuous of you to say that

That number is way higher than half

Ha! I didn’t proof read! Meant to say “at least”

 

[AJUMP23]

Just know that half of the people do not want you here.

Well I would say we don’t want you if you are going to be on government assistance. But if you work and contribute, no issue.

But anyone is welcome to visit. But guest leave.

 

[rubik's dude]

So you're resorting to lying now? Quote my post where I said "Austin is a conservative/republican city" its a place for young white liberal virtue signalers that drives away black and brown minorities

Now you're denying that you said Austin is a conservative/republican city? After all that fuss from you about how Dallas, San Antonio, and Houston are the only blue dots in Texas? Now it's just, "Austin drives away anyone that isn't white"?

Just take the L man. Can't believe a native Texan thinks Austin is red lol.

 

[Ballthyrm]

All I know about the USA is that unless you are going to the toilet, you need a car to get anywhere (or do anything)
I think American are car-centaurs or something.

The movie CARS is just the USA in the far future.

 

[Days like these...]

Now you're denying that you said Austin is a conservative/republican city? After all that fuss from you about how Dallas, San Antonio, and Houston are the only blue dots in Texas? Now it's just, "Austin drives away anyone that isn't white"?

Just take the L man. Can't believe a native Texan thinks Austin is red lol.

I never said Dallas, San Antonio and Houston are the only blue dots. You're flat out lying. For the 2nd time I'm asking you to quote my post where I said "Austin is a conservative/republican city". They can be blue AND racist

 

[TDiddyLive]

Stay away from rural areas at least 20mi outside major cities. That's where typically all the inbred morons in their big pickup trucks live. They're usually racist af and super religious.

Have you ever been to a rural area? Or do you get all your info from the internet and 80s movies? I’ve done lots of road traveling and this isn’t even close to being true. Usually it’s nothing but older model vehicles (Camrys, Caravans, various standard pickup trucks) and less shopping and dining selections. Hell, I was in the Appalachian part of Tennessee recently and the gas station I stopped at in the middle of nowhere had an Indian employee. He didn’t seem too inbred or racist to me.

Cops are thugs. They can literally rob you and not give back your money. This is rare but it does happen and it happened to some people near me trying to buy some land with cash. They can throw you in jail on bogus charges causing you to get fired.

Now this one is straight bullshit. There’s a lot to unpack in this small paragraph but nothing about it rings true. Somebody tried buying land with cash and the cops just happened to know where they were with the money and robbed them? They didn’t use a bank and a cashier’s check? Sure, buddy. And jail on bogus charges causing you to get fired? Why would a cop risk getting arrested for illegal arrest charges just to get someone fired? And why would that person even get fired? Cops don’t call your job, that person could call in and say they’re sick.

Also keep your bed away from windows because during holidays people will shoot their guns in the air and the next day you see kids died from a bullet that came back down.

This is insanely rare, even less so in the US compared to some other countries.

Celebratory gunfire - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

There’s also a bunch of other untrue stereotypical comments in there, but I don’t have all day for this so I decided to address some of the more egregious ones.

 

[bitbydeath]

Australia has to worry about fauna trying to kill them.

It’s cool, we fight back.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Some people are genuinely nice. This is typically in the poorer states (red states) though. People are much dumber in these states but help you if you're stranded with a flat tire or if you need food. Rich people are assholes to everyone.
Stay away from rural areas at least 20mi outside major cities. That's where typically all the inbred morons in their big pickup trucks live. They're usually racist af and super religious.
Dont live in the south part of any metropolitan city. It's usually the roughest part of the city. Suburbs are ok.
Everything is going up in price, you'll need to get a decent job to survive. Something at least $20hr.
Our healthcare is awful. Only way to get insurance is through a job or through state welfare. Private insurance you have to pay thousands to meet your decuctible, and 20%-50% of the inflated hospital bill. If you're sick do not move here.
We love food. You'll see fast food, thai, chinese, mexican, bbq, and burger restaurants on almost every major street corner.
We like cars, we dont really have any walkable cities. Our infrastructure is like 80 years behind other countries.
Lawyers love suing people. If you get in a wreck you can get sued. And you can sue whoever you want if you have the money.
Cops are thugs. They can literally rob you and not give back your money. This is rare but it does happen and it happened to some people near me trying to buy some land with cash. They can throw you in jail on bogus charges causing you to get fired.
People love shooting guns. They're fun to shoot. But we dont have gun control so mentally ill people can get a gun easily. Also keep your bed away from windows because during holidays people will shoot their guns in the air and the next day you see kids died from a bullet that came back down.
We definitely have our pros and cons. But it's going to get worse with this kleptocratic government. We're the richest country in the world and people are one paycheck away from losing their homes.

I have to ask, where the heck do you live?

This sounds like some Sicario movie shit here

 

[El Muerto]

Have you ever been to a rural area? Or do you get all your info from the internet and 80s movies? I’ve done lots of road traveling and this isn’t even close to being true. Usually it’s nothing but older model vehicles (Camrys, Caravans, various standard pickup trucks) and less shopping and dining selections. Hell, I was in the Appalachian part of Tennessee recently and the gas station I stopped at in the middle of nowhere had an Indian employee. He didn’t seem too inbred or racist to me.


Now this one is straight bullshit. There’s a lot to unpack in this small paragraph but nothing about it rings true. Somebody tried buying land with cash and the cops just happened to know where they were with the money and robbed them? They didn’t use a bank and a cashier’s check? Sure, buddy. And jail on bogus charges causing you to get fired? Why would a cop risk getting arrested for illegal arrest charges just to get someone fired? And why would that person even get fired? Cops don’t call your job, that person could call in and say they’re sick.

This is insanely rare, even less so in the US compared to some other countries.

Celebratory gunfire - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

There’s also a bunch of other untrue stereotypical comments in there, but I don’t have all day for this so I decided to address some of the more egregious ones.

I live in a red state. Rural areas are annoying. Cops would follow me around town (and i'm white with no history of getting in trouble). Dudes in pickups are always riding your ass and drive too aggressively. I had one older guy give me shit because i was wearing a Megadeth shirt when i went to walmart out in the country.
Cops stole money from these innocent folks. https://kfor.com/news/local/busines...r-140000-of-their-money-and-10000-is-missing/
On New years day one of my neighbors posted a pic on Nextdoor of a bullet that almost killed him when he went outside and smoked. Some people posted damage too. People unload clips left and right for about an hour on NYE. Plenty of articles out there of people getting hurt or dying from stray bullets. Yes it's rare but it does happen.
I've worked with people at different jobs who went to jail for the night and lost their job because they couldnt call to let someone know. They can hold you on anything. I also knew someone who was thrown in jail for weeks, held on a $250k bond all because his buddy was dealing drugs to someone else. They held him for questioning then let him go. He was innocent the whole entire time.