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[EviLore]

Good vid that gives a background on mRNA vaccines and how they’ll be used to treat all manner of diseases now that they’ve proven themselves in a big way during this pandemic. Cancer vaccines are currently in phase 2 trials and are 2-3 years out.

Feels like we’re going to hit the ground running technologically when we get past this pandemic.

 

[triplestation]

 

[Rentahamster]

Fuck yeah. The progress of technology that improves our lives is a great thing to see.

 

[infinitys_7th]

I want more long term data because I'm weary about any treatment that relies on an autoimmune response, but for incurable viral diseases and cancer this is fantastic regardless of any small risks that could present themselves in the course of decades.

 

[Goro Majima]

Any new drugs for hopefully all the cancers is huge and much needed. The only thing that scares me more than cancer is Alzheimers or general Dementia. At least with the latter you're not cognizant of what's happening at some point.

 

[The Pleasure]

Good vid that gives a background on mRNA vaccines and how they’ll be used to treat all manner of diseases now that they’ve proven themselves in a big way during this pandemic. Cancer vaccines are currently in phase 2 trials and are 2-3 years out.

Feels like we’re going to hit the ground running technologically when we get past this pandemic.

What a glorious time. Hopefully we can kill cancer and put it through the anals of history. My friends mom was never the same after chemo.

 

[DragoonKain]

People who said they will never take an mRNA vaccine for COVID because the long-term effects are unproven when those those same vaccines arrive at their local pharmacy for cancer:

 

[Sleepwalker]

I welcome any advance thats meant to combat cancer. Seriously fuck cancer.

 

[Schattenjäger]

awesome news

one thing about EviLore .. he always seems to get dibs on the great articles/videos

 

[Rickyiez]

I welcome any advance thats meant to combat cancer. Seriously fuck cancer.

I wholeheartedly agree. It's about time mankind get a serious fighting chance against this. Hopefully in my lifetime I can see that cancer will just be treated as another flu.

 

[GAMETA]

Great news! Fuck cancer!

My suspicions with the Covid vaccine are proven correct when you consider the efficiency of the Pfizer one when compared to the others. Too much money to be made, too many corners that can be cut, I don't trust big pharma.

Doesn't mean I won't applaud the science behind it and wish for the best. Hopefully we get this working soon enough, and accessible enough.

 

[GamingKaiju]

Would be great to see if a jab could treat cancer, perhaps a sliver lining from covid is a leap forward in medical science.

 

[Mistershine.]

Does this mean I can start smoking again?

 

[GloveSlap]

I'll believe the cancer part when i see it, but heres hoping.

 

[ManaByte]

Cancer cured? Connery did it first.

 

[StormCell]

Here's hoping that the data on mRNA vaccine use continues to be positive over the next 2-5 years. We've been waiting for about 5 years for these cancer-fighting vaccines to be market-ready. The idea of programming the body's immune system to remove cancer has just been this wonderful future reality until now!

 

[sackings]

Color me skeptical. The entire need for a covid vaccine is based on a lie so i'll believe it when it happens.

 

[haxan7]

Cancer vaccine started where? America under Trump.

 

[ManaByte]

Color me skeptical. The entire need for a covid vaccine is based on a lie so i'll believe it when it happens.

This is why we need a clown reaction.

 

[HawksWinStanley]

Great news! Fuck cancer!

My suspicions with the Covid vaccine are proven correct when you consider the efficiency of the Pfizer one when compared to the others. Too much money to be made, too many corners that can be cut, I don't trust big pharma.

Doesn't mean I won't applaud the science behind it and wish for the best. Hopefully we get this working soon enough, and accessible enough.

What do you mean?

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

The video doesn't say how a cancer vaccine would even work. This isn't a foreign cell like everything else a vaccine is for, cancer is caused by your own cells undergoing mutations and its not one mutation its a shit load of different mutations. How do you even make a vaccine to kill your own cells when they mutate and against millions of different mutations. I'll believe it when I see it, but this sounds very unlikely.

Edit: After looking it up it looks like the mRNA is gonna be essentially a peptide that is expressed on the surface of certain tumor cells, interesting.

 

[DKehoe]

Interesting. I hadn't considered how this would affect the development of vaccines going forward. It'd be nice if there was something positive that could be taken from how shitty the past year has been.

 

[GAMETA]

What do you mean?

I'm not sure how the US is supplying vaccines, but in my country there are a lot of variants coming from different places.

The Pfizer vaccine has shown 90%+ efficiency while other's can show as little as 40%.

It has been widely marketed (by the media and manufacturers) that you should take whatever vaccine they (the government) provide, claiming they all are the same... contesting it is considered right wing, conspiracy and what not...


If something so fundamental as efficiency is being lied (or omitted) about, I truly believe it is wise to keep cautious.

 

[EviLore]

I'm not sure how the US is supplying vaccines, but in my country there are a lot of variants coming from different places.

The Pfizer vaccine has shown 90%+ efficiency while other's can show as little as 40%.

It has been widely marketed (by the media and manufacturers) that you should take whatever vaccine they (the government) provide, claiming they all are the same... contesting it is considered right wing, conspiracy and what not...


If something so fundamental as efficiency is being lied (or omitted) about, I truly believe it is wise to keep cautious.

Efficacy % doesn’t describe hospitalization and death rates. Those are reduced to almost 0 by all the vaccines, which is why they’re being distributed.

 

[AnAnole]

Ex malo bonum

 

[The Pleasure]

Color me skeptical. The entire need for a covid vaccine is based on a lie so i'll believe it when it happens.

When did comedy become so meta? Is this you Trump supporter? Is this me?

 

[AnAnole]

Color me skeptical. The entire need for a covid vaccine is based on a lie so i'll believe it when it happens.

How does it feel to be an absolute moron?

 

[GAMETA]

Efficacy % doesn’t describe hospitalization and death rates. Those are reduced to almost 0 by all the vaccines, which is why they’re being distributed.

There are reports of a new branch (P4) in Brazil, faster transmissibility and potentially drawing vaccines ineffective.

"Ela chama atenção não apenas pelos pontos em comum com as mutações na P1 (oficialmente “variante de preocupação” pela Organização Mundial de Saúde), mas também no que diverge dela, explica Santana. As mutações estão na mesma região da proteína S, alvo de anticorpos e da maioria das vacinas contra a Covid-19. "

"[This new branch] draws attention not only by what it has in common with the P1 variant (which is associated with more dangerous cases and the one that worries WHO the most), but also in what makes it different, explains Santana. The mutations are in the same region of the S protein, which is the target for anti-bodies and most vaccines againts Covid-19."

Descoberta em Belo Horizonte nova variante do coronavírus

Nova cepa detectada por cientistas da UFMG tem combinação de 18 mutações nunca antes descritas no Sars-CoV-2

oglobo.globo.com

O Globo is one of the biggest traditional media outlets in Brazil. Maybe you can find articles in English too. Check out death rates in Brazil too, things are out of control once again.

What does this have to do with efficiency? Well, everything. People are taking the vaccine for a cure and acting as such... the least that should be strived for is to vaccinate people with the most effective one, don't you think?

 

[EviLore]

What does this have to do with efficiency? Well, everything. People are taking the vaccine for a cure and acting as such... the least that should be strived for is to vaccinate people with the most effective one, don't you think?

You should start a podcast about it.

 

[GAMETA]

You should start a podcast about it.

Why the sarcasm, though?

I think it's a valid concern, are we back to the era when we're painted colors here and only certain colors are allowed?

 

[Rentahamster]

It has been widely marketed (by the media and manufacturers) that you should take whatever vaccine they (the government) provide, claiming they all are the same... contesting it is considered right wing, conspiracy and what not...


If something so fundamental as efficiency is being lied (or omitted) about, I truly believe it is wise to keep cautious.

Getting the vaccine is better than nothing, so conferring some amount of protection from any brand is important given how supply constrained we are.

1. You are being lied to on a global scale.
2. Your sources of information are unreliable or wrong.
3. You don't fully understand this very complicated situation.

How do you determine which is the best representation of reality?

 

[Jaysen]

Color me skeptical. The entire need for a covid vaccine is based on a lie so i'll believe it when it happens.

Shut up, dummy

 

[GAMETA]

Getting the vaccine is better than nothing, so conferring some amount of protection from any brand is important given how supply constrained we are.

1. You are being lied to on a global scale.
2. Your sources of information are unreliable or wrong.
3. You don't fully understand this very complicated situation.

How do you determine which is the best representation of reality?

4. This is a very complicated situation and the lack of transparency makes it difficult to trust information, especially when the information providers themselves are turning valid concerns into mockery and/or treating it as political manifestation that needs to be suppressed. And it's not, it's just cautious consideration.


Look at this forum. The ad sense rules changed and suddenly we can't talk about certain things. Our dear EviLore changed the rules as soon as the cash flow did. Kind of funny, isn't it? Hey, I understand, I have a family to provide to as well, but come on, are we here to lick the media and Google's balls now? We cannot deviate from what they deem to be the right path?

Covid passports are being discussed when they said they'd never allow it. Effectiveness of different vaccines is being put under the carpet... what else isn't what they claim to be? What else they decide the public shouldn't know? Which other decisions should be taken out of the individual hands and forced upon them?

So as soon as the media says Oceania is fighting Eurasia instead of Eastasia are we supposed to accept? "Hey we claimed the vaccines were all the same but now they're not and don't question it". How about no?

Shouldn't I (and we, here) be able to have discussions instead of receiving cheap sarcasm from the "Lord" himself? Because it seems like passive aggressive silencing, you know... Are you cockroaches too afraid to lose your accounts so you suck his dick instead? Hmm, I can't get behind that...

 

[EviLore]

Yes, it's a worldwide conspiracy. Only you are brilliant enough to see the truth for what it is and only you are heroic enough to stand up to the video game message board oppressors. Never stop speaking truth to power, GAMETA.

Oh. Nevermind.

 

[Ballthyrm]

I'm glad we have all these smart people figuring this out. Now let's wait until the lawyers and politicians get out of their way.
If we didn't have covid-19 there a chance this technology would have lingered for years in ethics comities

 

[ntropy]

Getting the vaccine is better than nothing, so conferring some amount of protection from any brand is important given how supply constrained we are.

1. You are being lied to on a global scale.
2. Your sources of information are unreliable or wrong.
3. You don't fully understand this very complicated situation.

How do you determine which is the best representation of reality?

taking this vaccine means your immune system will override the production of antigen non-specific antibodies with antibodies tailored for a specific covid19 strain.
so, no, taking this is not better than nothing. this should only be given to high risk individuals

please read Geert Vanden Bossche's perspective

 

[Tranquil]

Fuck yeah. The progress of technology that improves our lives is a great thing to see.

 

[thelastword]

Good vid that gives a background on mRNA vaccines and how they’ll be used to treat all manner of diseases now that they’ve proven themselves in a big way during this pandemic. Cancer vaccines are currently in phase 2 trials and are 2-3 years out.

Feels like we’re going to hit the ground running technologically when we get past this pandemic.

If from Covid, we can extract better progress in the fight against all these diseases that has plagued humanity for so long, that would be a blessing coming through this pandemic.....I don't think the world will ever do things the same way after Covid, it has pushed us to be conscious in much more ways than one and has propelled our world scientists to push themselves to get a cure in the quickest time they could muster.....I really hope this helps especially against cancer, because that disease has taken so many lives over the years as the most predatory disease in human existence.....A disease that can affect any body part or tissue....Skin, pancreas, breast, cervical, colon....We need to get ontop of cancer now.....

 

[Leyasu]

Efficacy % doesn’t describe hospitalization and death rates. Those are reduced to almost 0 by all the vaccines, which is why they’re being distributed.

The messaging needs to change. Instead of talking about efficiency, people should be told about protection against severe infection.

It is confusing to a lot of people

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Amazing. If only we could have gotten to this point sooner. I'd still have my father. Certainly better late than never. I just miss my dad.

Thanks for sharing this.

 

[SentientStone]

Thank you, Bill Gates and global elites.
Now we just need UBI and free food delivered from your farms, utopia shall be achieved. lol

 

[quickwhips]

Yeah but patrick swayze is still did. When do we get time machines?

 

[tsumake]

People who said they will never take an mRNA vaccine for COVID because the long-term effects are unproven when those those same vaccines arrive at their local pharmacy for cancer:

Well gee, I mean COVID, cancer, same thing right?

 

[Hari Seldon]

I feel like COVID will end up saving more lives than it killed in the long run due to all the $$$$ dumped into this tech.

 

[GHG]

Get me an all in one vaccine for all that shit and I'll take it monthly if necessary.

By the way, a lot of this stuff was being researched and developed prior to covid but covid was the catalyst for increased focus and extra investment. It's sad that it took this but here we are. Thanks China.

 

[poppabk]

taking this vaccine means your immune system will override the production of antigen non-specific antibodies with antibodies tailored for a specific covid19 strain.
so, no, taking this is not better than nothing. this should only be given to high risk individuals

please read Geert Vanden Bossche's perspective

This doesn't really make any sense. First B-cells immunity doesn't really work like that, the body doesn't know what it is infected with and then 'choose' which antibodies to produce, the antigens pass through the lympth system to the spleen and lympth nodes, where B-cells interact with the antigen and if they bind sufficiently they are activated. So the 'best' antibodies will be chosen, whether they are those produced by the vaccine or are naturally occurring.
And secondly, this Geert guys theory doesn't explain how natural herd immunity doesnt put the same selective pressure on the virus as vaccination and also presupposes complete immune escape by the virus is possible.
Finally his argument that the variants that came about before vaccination were due to prevention measures is ludicrous.

 

[ArtemisClydeFrog]

God could have ended this shit years ago.

Oh well. Scientists and Russell Crowe are on it.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

"personalized cancer vaccines." Got it. I don't think there can ever be a blanket cure for "cancer," because it's not one thing. That would be like curing "injury" or "disease" or something.

 

[kamkamkam]

I hope its as good as it seems.

Historically, anytime we have breakthroughs.. they come with unintentional sacrifices.

 

[EviLore]

This doesn't really make any sense. First B-cells immunity doesn't really work like that, the body doesn't know what it is infected with and then 'choose' which antibodies to produce, the antigens pass through the lympth system to the spleen and lympth nodes, where B-cells interact with the antigen and if they bind sufficiently they are activated. So the 'best' antibodies will be chosen, whether they are those produced by the vaccine or are naturally occurring.
And secondly, this Geert guys theory doesn't explain how natural herd immunity doesnt put the same selective pressure on the virus as vaccination and also presupposes complete immune escape by the virus is possible.
Finally his argument that the variants that came about before vaccination were due to prevention measures is ludicrous.

It's a crackpot position from Bossche. Comprehensive refutation here:

The Doomsday Prophecy of Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, a Belgian virus expert, has scared the Internet by claiming the COVID-19 vaccines will doom humanity. No need to panic.A Belgian virus expert has scared the Internet by claiming the COVID-19 vaccines will doom humanity. No need to panic.

www.mcgill.ca