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MS 360 conference E3 (streaming link inside)

Wow, there's no way I could have comprehended how deep a whole Microsoft is in right now. Gears of War is the only title that seems to have any leverage and it's not going to be at launch. The killer launch title that draws people to the system has been...as Goremedy puts it so eloquently...SENT BACK TO THE CHEF. That is just terrifying, especially when DOA4 doesn't seem to have 1/10th the visual whiz bang DOA3 possesed. Then you look through your green tinted binoculars and notice a 4-6 month window to establish yourself before SONY LAUNCHES WITH GRAND FUCKING THEFT SHITINYOURPANTS., and the only hands in your deck are a couple of impressive PC titles (CoD, Morrowind), an awesome looking Ghost Recon 3, Kameo, and some EA givens. Don't even ask me what the fuck they're doing with both binoculars and a pack of cards in the same allusion. Shit!

You see those blinking red lights Microsoft?

BAIL THE FUCK OUT
 
Wait, did he say 1 billion consoles sold or 1 billion users? Because if it was just users they could be considering like 4 people per family and 1 xbox360 per family. My connection was sputtering out at that moment.
 
So... is Perfect Dark Zero going to be on the floor?

Jesus, a complete no-show except for some recycled footage from the MTV special.

I have to wonder if the PDZ intro and subsequent Kameo presentation was an accident or not.
 
Just don't know what to make of the Square announcement. You can't tell if they will do FFXI and then some crap 2nd-rate stuff or if they'll keep on doing FF games.

GoW, PGR3 and Ghost Recon look great.

BC with some Xbox games is not the best news. Will be interesting to see what they list as compatible - better not be a small list.

Good to see a few RPGs will be available for the Japanese market and Kameo looks like it will appeal to Zelda lovers.

A few duds in there though - like that 2K6 game.

SO telling that PD0 was not shown - the fact he announced it would be shown smacks of a last minute decision to pull the game that he forgot to account for in his speech. I would say goodbye to a launch release for that game.
 
Well that sucked. I don't have any intention of getting a 360 at launch. Oblivion looks cool, but I'm not laying down $400 for just that.
 
MS dropped the ball.

It's still early as hell, but it looks like they built up a helluvalot of momentum just to kill it themselves by fucking up on the most important aspect. The games. A couple of games look good, but the majority do NOT.
 
Ghost Recon 3 and ESPECIALLY GoW looked great, definitely next-gen stuff. PGR3 looked real good.

But I was much more impressed by the Killzone and Motor Storm trailers. Those blew me away.

edit: I need to see higher quality streams like those on Gamespot for the PS3. Because right now a majority of the PS3 stuff look a lot better. Killing Day and that off-road racing game at the end of Showcase 2 are fanfuckingtastic.
 
Man this really reminds of the first time they showed the Xbox in 2001. It was horrible! The machine wouldn't start, the games looked like ass. But in the end, they pulled it together and had a good launch.

Having said that, I pretty disappointed in this presentation. I might still pick it up at launch but my enthusiasm is dulled a bit. You have to at least give them credit for having the balls to show off almost all gameplay footage...finished or not.
 
fuck that sucked.


I am officially trading in my xbot fan badge ...for a Psybot Badge.


M$ lost one customer because of that shitty confrence.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
lol SO where's all the "MS will make you eat crow when they show the REAL PdZero!!" jerkoffs at now? Their supposed killer app launch title and they don't even show it off? :lol can you say delayed til 2006?

eating crow. Seriously PD0 + MTV special backfired royally like you would not believe it. Is the conference over? I missed it because I've got work to do. The PS3 stuff is so fucking unbelievable that well, it's looking like a PS3 for me @ launch. Woot woot
 
If only MS had thought to bring Elijah Wood to the conference as well as that stunning unveiling on MTV. He could have dressed up as his character from the movie "North", you know, to bring that whole aura of success with him.
 
It's up to Nintendo tommorrow to show me their stuff and I should have a more or less clear decision on which next-gen console I'll go for first.
 
- The stream as everyone knows really sucked...
- Too much talk about features etc which of course was expected...
- Not enough new games shown...
- Halo 3?

+ Although I'm not a fan of Morrowind the new game looks gorgeous
+ GEARS OF WAR is just gorgeous... better looking than the stuff shown on the PS3
+ GHOST RECON 3 is also gorgeous.
+ Square support... yes no one gives a crap about FFXI really but you're really stupid if you don't see this making the XBOX a little bit more cred in Japan.
+ PG3 looks wonderful
 
LizardKing said:
Looks like SquareEnix are going after the EA business model and are going to truely be multiplatform next gen. I wonder if this means that big games like Final Fantasy are going to be on multiple consoles.

From my perspective it's a good strategy to move their online properties to full multiplatform: maximizes the reach of monthly money sinks, with no comparable competition...
 
Odnetnin said:
eating crow. Seriously PD0 + MTV special backfired royally like you would not believe it. Is the conference over? I missed it because I've got work to do. The PS3 stuff is so fucking unbelievable that well, it's looking like a PS3 for me @ launch. Woot woot


I'll buy Xbox 360 for next gen madden, but unless MS get their shit together fast the 360 is not gettin g much gametime from me.
 
3rdman said:
You have to at least give them credit for having the balls to show off almost all gameplay footage...finished or not.

I guess that's the newest excuse. I kinda agree, but still...
 
3rdman said:
Man this really reminds of the first time they showed the Xbox in 2001. It was horrible! The machine wouldn't start, the games looked like ass. But in the end, they pulled it together and had a good launch.

.

but back then they had Halo. That changes everything. This time they are relying on a hasbeen, slacker studio called Rare to provide their killer app. Why doesn't J. Allard just blow his brains out.
 
Kuroyume said:
- The stream as everyone knows really sucked...
- Too much talk about features etc which of course was expected...
- Not enough new games shown...
- Halo 3?

+ Although I'm not a fan of Morrowind the new game looks gorgeous
+ GEARS OF WAR is just gorgeous... better looking than the stuff shown on the PS3
+ GHOST RECON 3 is also gorgeous.
+ Square support... yes no one gives a crap about FFXI really but you're really stupid if you don't see this making the XBOX a little bit more cred in Japan.
+ PG3 looks wonderful

FFXI is old ... never add cred with this game
 
You have to at least give them credit for having the balls to show off almost all gameplay footage...finished or not.

But that's the thing -- they didn't. Most of the actual gameplay footage shown was from EA; all gameplay footage looked significantly worse. They knew that and tried showing only a little bit of it. NFSMW did not look that hot in the gameplay footage.
 
Shaheed79 said:
Again anybody, Was Backwards Compatibility confirmed or not?

"Xbox 360 will be backwards compatible with the top selling Xbox titles."

Major titles will work, but they aren't going to go out of their way to account for low-selling titles.
 
xbox 360 is a buy for all the xbox live aspects and the entertainment center it will be. GAMES are great and will definetly be great
 
Apart from BC, Gears of War and the controller, MS have NOTHING compared to Sony. What the hell did MS do. They created so much hype for X360 which lead to nothing. They probably didnt expect Sony do something significant, but Sony kept very quite and have already got themselves a lead in the next-gen console wars. I didnt get to see all of it. Did MS make any announcements on Splinter Cell or Ninja gaiden?
 
Yeah that squarnix part was a joke. Bill should have kicked his ass out when the offered up FF XI as square-enix's support!


But new the new Elder scrolls game at launch more than makes up for it. :D I never liked the FF series anyway
 
So much for PDZ. The single-player must be pretty shitty too if they won't even show that.

We'll always have Wall Guy. :(



Man, I had so much hope before. Now the only game I'd buy a 360 for is Oblivion.
 
Shaheed79 said:
Again anybody, Was Backwards Compatibility confirmed or not?

yes, but only confirmed for the "best selling" (or some such nonsense) titles... so its probably going to emulate titles. hopefully that means they will be improved.

no perfect dark was just LOL funny. thank god MS wisened up and ditched it. hopefully they'll delay it to rework it :P

anyone think that PGR3 footage was real time? it looked absolutely stunning, even better then the mtv trailer.
 
Well, PS3 definately owned X360, no doubt. But maybe it's because I'll have the monesy, but I'm still sold on X360 for these (in order)...

Ghost Recon 3
Gears of War
Morrowind: Oblivion
Project Gotham Racing 3
A next gen Madden THIS year (I know we haven't seen it, but I'll take it no matter what)
New Xbox Live
Other EA games.
High Definition Gaming Now.
The Greatest controller ever5 devised by anything, ever.

...at least to hold me over till PS3 arrives. That will be some good gaming.
 
I was shown enough to be convinced, of course I'm still buying a ps3 whenever it comes out.
Sony did'nt actually "show" me anything though.

Although I suppose we might see more stuff later on this week or was this it for the next gen stuff from Sony and MS?
 
That whole show sucked. I'm not really sure if I want to get a 360 this year after watching that. Sure games like Gears of War, Oblivion, Ghost Recon 3, and PGR3 looked amazing but after seeing the PS3 in action, I'm decidedly less stoked with MS.

Knowing myself, I'll probably succumb to buying the system early just for Oblivion but holy hell, what a shitty presentation tonight.

PS3, here I come.
 
to be fair, microsoft showed mostly in game videos which is something sony did not, they showed pre renderd or cg stuff, also x360 had alot of (too much) EA stuff which i doubt uses the harware to the max.

Its a close call, but if p23 can do what those videos showed, then that is that.
 
3rdman said:
Man this really reminds of the first time they showed the Xbox in 2001. It was horrible! The machine wouldn't start, the games looked like ass. But in the end, they pulled it together and had a good launch.

Having said that, I pretty disappointed in this presentation. I might still pick it up at launch but my enthusiasm is dulled a bit. You have to at least give them credit for having the balls to show off almost all gameplay footage...finished or not.

The big difference is that last time they launched after Sony and had the most powerful system, so they had time to work the kinks out. This time, they have a brief window to establish themselves; if they blow that, they won't get another chance.
 
wow I missed this, but for the reactions it seems that is the xbox1 debut all over again, I hope somethings improve for the launch.
 
Hello all.

I wanted to ask this. Isn't GOW going to rock up on PS3 as well or is it exclusive... I mean it'd be hitting PC, that I know. So what else is MS left with from this Rocky Horror Show that was amazing? GR + PGR3?
 
psycho_snake said:
Apart from BC, Gears of War and the controller, MS have NOTHING compared to Sony. What the hell did MS do. They created so much hype for X360 which lead to nothing. They probably didnt expect Sony do something significant, but Sony kept very quite and have already got themselves a lead in the next-gen console wars. I didnt get to see all of it. Did MS make any announcements on Splinter Cell or Ninja gaiden?

I just take it you decided to ignore XBOX Live?
 
Gotta give MS credit for the worldwide launch though. That's something no one has done yet for a console. Great news for europe.
 
It's pretty sad that MS paid who knows how much for FFXI. The game is old as dirt and I don't think many people still play it.

SE have to be laughing their asses off at that deal.
 
I think GoW is exclusive.

Even if PDO winds up a little iffy looking, which I do think they'll rectify by release, it's still PD. If it turns out as downright spiffy as an evolution to the N64 game should be, I'll likely jump in.

Right now, I really like the console. I like the UI and all the XBL integration. But the launch lineup just seems like it may be a little thin.
 
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