Snake29
Banned
This is literally what MS/Xbox is. No creativity like Steve Jobs said in the past. Xbox is even completely missing a identity atm....
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MS Earnings Call - FY23Q3 | 4% decline for MS Gaming, Xbox HW down 30%
This is literally what MS/Xbox is. No creativity like Steve Jobs said in the past. Xbox is even completely missing a identity atm....
bender
What time is it?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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Captain Toad
Banned
Ok, but Sony has games on PC, Switch and Xbox, but those players don't count as PSN users.
Microsoft plays with numbers to fit their narrative. When trying to get the Activision deal approved, they showed charts showing PS being 5 times more popular than Xbox. When trying to build consumer confidence they share MAU numbers in a way that makes them look to be the most popular platform.
When they were market leader, they were tweeting sales numbers weekly and how those compared to PS. When they fell behind, they started to refuse to share sales numbers altogether and started giving random stats like the number of monsters killed, etc.
You have to take any numbers they give out with a grain of salt, because they are presenting them in the way they want to be seen, not actual reality. It's no different here counting people playing Minecraft on all the platforms they did before the acquisition as "Xbox" users. (But, when they need the court to see them as weak, those users no longer count).
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SenjutsuSage
Banned
Why are Playstation sales relevant in the thread about Xbox numbers? Does everything have to be console wars? Did you also ignore where they state the reason hardware revenue dropped is due to supply shortages? They'll announce the new number when they're ready. But something tells me it's more impressive than you might think. I think they could be waiting for Activision to close to announce the new number.
Here's a hint, though.
Gaming revenue from subscriptions reached nearly $1 billion in the quarter. No way Game Pass isn't the biggest contributor with north of 25 million subscribers.
bluecowboys
Banned
How is it a monopoly? There is still iOS and Android smart phones. Sorry, but consoles are still a niche gaming market of about 200 million sales between Xbox and PlayStation in a 7 to 10 year time span.
bluecowboys
Banned
A very niche market yes.
Pedro Motta
Gold Member
Just check 5 different outlets plus Amazon for series X and S and they are available immediately in each one of them.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
very soon
fermcr
Member
I've said it in the past and I will say it again... Phil Spencer is doing a lousy job in front on the Xbox division.
Microsoft's biggest mistake was firing Don Mattrick. Xbox 360 gave the PS3 a good fight with Don Mattrick in front... many exclusives, big 3rd party exclusives, including exclusive JRPG's.
In spite of the controversial Xbox One presentation, Microsoft should have sticked with their guns and continue with Mattrick.
With Phil Spencer, the Xbox was gotten worse and worse as time goes by...
The biggest surprise for me is how Phil Spencer still has a job in front of the Xbox division.
Microsoft's biggest mistake was firing Don Mattrick. Xbox 360 gave the PS3 a good fight with Don Mattrick in front... many exclusives, big 3rd party exclusives, including exclusive JRPG's.
In spite of the controversial Xbox One presentation, Microsoft should have sticked with their guns and continue with Mattrick.
With Phil Spencer, the Xbox was gotten worse and worse as time goes by...
The biggest surprise for me is how Phil Spencer still has a job in front of the Xbox division.
chromhound
Gold Member
Xcloud only next gen
MarkMe2525
Gold Member
Ouch, not surprising. There is not a lot of hype around Xbox at the moment. They would benefit from delivering on their plan to have quarterly major releases.
I am speaking for myself, but there weren't many releases 2009 and on that came from Xbox 1st party that I found very appealing outside of Halo 4 and maybe a few others I can't think of.
Considering Mattrick moved into his head role of Xbox in 2007, I would not be so quick to give him the credit for much of 360's success. He did move a bunch of units in 2010 with the Kinect, but I wouldn't call that a win for the "more than casual" audience. I would argue that the ,more than casual, 360 gamers suffered under his leadership.
I am speaking for myself, but there weren't many releases 2009 and on that came from Xbox 1st party that I found very appealing outside of Halo 4 and maybe a few others I can't think of.
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Nydius
Member
Do me a favor and learn the difference between “monopolistic practices” and “monopoly”.
MSIE wasn’t a monopoly.
Windows wasn’t a monopoly.
Yet Microsoft was found guilty of leveraging them for monopolistic practices to damage competitors.
In your fantasy world where Microsoft buys up everyone and locks Sony out, they would be committing the exact same shit they did with Windows (via PC OEMs) and MSIE (via Windows integration) in the 1990s and would absolutely be raked over the coals. While ignorant console warriors such as yourself will still be screaming “bUt tHeY aReNt A mOnOpOlY!”
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The bundle is in limited quantity only and the regular one is invite only because of high demand.
This is Amazon US.
bluecowboys
Banned
Steve Jobs was jealous and petty as fuck. I like the Mac, iPhone and iPad but he can be a real prick at times.This is literally what MS/Xbox is. No creativity like Steve Jobs said in the past. Xbox is even completely missing a identity atm....
Fact is MS identity is being the biggest B2B company. You can’t create a company successfully nowadays without going through MS.
Also, MS stocks are way up after hours. I guess investors are liking what they are doing.
Topher
Identifies as young
Microsoft had a good quarter. Xbox.....though.....
Things will look up second half of the year though.
Luigi Mario
Member
Don Mattrick redemption arc incoming?
Stay tuned.
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zomboden
Banned
They could get all the displaced Stadia players on their new Cloud Box! PROFIT!!Xcloud only next gen
MisterXDTV
Member
The bundle is in limited quantity only and the regular one is invite only because of high demand.
This is Amazon US.
The Forza Bundle is basically in stock everywhere on planet Earth...
But "Shortages"
LOL
bluecowboys
Banned
Being monopoly means they are the only ones supplying games clown. You do realize there are more publishers besides the big 4 (Activision, EA, Ubisoft, and Take 2), correct? Also, Sony has a lot of studios still so no need to get upset.
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Pedro Motta
Gold Member
1 Billion in revenue from subs? Didn't Ragnarok made more than half of that by itself?
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Source?
ChorizoPicozo
Member
bender
What time is it?
Dick Jones
Gold Member
It could be a a mistake.
They could have meant console sales are down due to shortarses.
Topher
Identifies as young
No....no one said that. Come on. Right? No......no way.
TheGodfather07
Member
Well yeah. Cause right now people dont even know xbox exists!
fermcr
Member
Well, you might not like him, but he was doing a better job then Phil...
ulantan
Member
Yep that's why selling games is important.
bluecowboys
Banned
Don Mattrick vision is short term and not long term.
I still can’t believe he didn’t see how smart tvs are going to be a thing and make his whole entertainment box idea fail
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Pedro Motta
Gold Member
Topher
Identifies as young
How?
kyoji
Member
Exactly, id also like to know if they are lumping in xbox live with GP
bender
What time is it?
Don was ahead of his time and misunderstood. #BringBackMattrick
MisterXDTV
Member
bluecowboys
Banned
How? Xbox series consoles are selling faster than any other xbox console and xbox Revenue going up faster.
Topher
Identifies as young
Yeah, that whole thing was bullshit.
Do you have a source for that ?
fermcr
Member
The Xbox 360 was the Xbox console that sold the most until now... went neck and neck with the PS3.
Did the Xbox ONE go neck and neck with the PS4?
Do you see the Xbox Series going neck and neck with the PS5?
Phil has to go. Microsoft need someone else, doesn't have to be Don Mattrick.
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Topher
Identifies as young
My mistake.
Xbox One was Don Mattrick's creation. He drove Xbox into the dirt, dude. Xbox has never recovered.
feynoob
Banned
That is how desperation feels.
I never seen a group of people wanting the guy who destroyed their platform in the head office.
bender
What time is it?
My mistake.
Xbox One was Don Mattrick's creation. He drove Xbox into the dirt, dude. Xbox has never recovered.
Only down 30%, Phil? Hold my beer!
fermcr
Member
My mistake.
Xbox One was Don Mattrick's creation. He drove Xbox into the dirt, dude. Xbox has never recovered.
Do you realise that most of the original Xbox One's controversial ideas are being implemented in present day consoles?
TheGodfather07
Member
A year from now? Try the next few quarters. If xbox isn't up yoy with starfield, they are well and truly fucked. Acquisitions mean fuck all if you cant even sell your own console.
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That is, in the next quarter, the drop in xbox equipment will not be 30%, but 28%?Why are Playstation sales relevant in the thread about Xbox numbers? Does everything have to be console wars? Did you also ignore where they state the reason hardware revenue dropped is due to supply shortages? They'll announce the new number when they're ready. But something tells me it's more impressive than you might think. I think they could be waiting for Activision to close to announce the new number.
Here's a hint, though.
Gaming revenue from subscriptions reached nearly $1 billion in the quarter. No way Game Pass isn't the biggest contributor with north of 25 million subscribers.
That's a definite success, mate.
And again, we don't have gamepass numbers. It's unfortunate that Microsoft has not been able to do at least one good PR for xbox in the last month.
