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[Arrogant Bastard]

I'm worried Mueller will find nothing... What happens then? Do we Banghazi/Email this or take him at his word and move on?

No, you move on. We don't get to do this, we aren't Republicans. We wanted a special investigator, we got one. Let them do their jobs, we will see what comes out of it all. If it turns out it was nothing, then its nothing.

Personally, I highly doubt it was nothing, I also doubt Trump was personally involved...he isn't that stupid.

 

[jelly]

Mueller had better stay away from Fifth Avenue...

You say that but I hope him and his team do have protection, surely.

 

[Dr.Acula]

At the very least, Trump's in violation of the emoluments clause, correct?

 

[Culex]

If it turns out Mueller can't find anything to stick to Trump, I can live with that. He is trusted across multiple presidents on both party sides.

If he cannot find anything, then that is that.

 

[Aylinato]

No, you move on. We don't get to do this, we aren't Republicans. We wanted a special investigator, we got one. Let them do their jobs, we will see what comes out of it all. If it turns out it was nothing, then its nothing.

Personally, I highly doubt it was nothing, I also doubt Trump was personally involved...he isn't that stupid.

He kinda is that stupid

 

[BoogieWoogie]

If it turns out Mueller can't find anything to stick to Trump, I can live with that. He is trusted across multiple presidents on both party sides.

If he cannot find anything, then that is that.

Do you honestly believe that Trump is squeaky clean in this shit (let alone anything)?

 

[CazTGG]

Trump is going to be in jail for more than just treason, methinks.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

Do you honestly believe that Trump is squeaky clean in this shit (let alone anything)?

No, of course not. I think that he has a long history of being a shit heel, but that long history has taught him to distance himself ever so slightly. It's like Chris Christie and Bridgegate.

 

[Novel Mike]

Do you honestly believe that Trump is squeaky clean in this shit (let alone anything)?

I don't think anyone thinks that Trump is 'squeaky clean' but there is a very big difference from that and actually finding evidence of a crime that they could prosecute him for which would be needed if he was really going to be impeached. They really need someone to flip on him much like what happened with Watergate.

 

[Kid Kamikaze10]

He kinda is that stupid

He's definitely that stupid. And his family isn't much wiser.

 

[Taramoor]

No, you move on. We don't get to do this, we aren't Republicans. We wanted a special investigator, we got one. Let them do their jobs, we will see what comes out of it all. If it turns out it was nothing, then its nothing.

Personally, I highly doubt it was nothing, I also doubt Trump was personally involved...he isn't that stupid.

Counterpoint, I think they deliberately kept him out of the really impeachable and horrifying stuff because he's too stupid to be trusted with that kind of information.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

The reason I tend to think Trump will end up firing Mueller is that this almost certainly going to happen (for those keeping score at home, I asked the percentage chance that Trump will fire Mueller on The Editors podcast today: Michael Brendan Dougherty was 200%; Charlie was 50%; and I was 70% or higher). This kind of expansion of an investigation is what special counsels do, and there is nothing to indicate that Mueller is going to limit his work, in fact the opposite. Bloomberg is reporting that Mueller is already looking at Trump’s business transactions. Maybe that report is premature, but it’s probably where this is headed.

All sorts of people will tell Trump not to fire Mueller. But we can be pretty certain that Trump didn’t sign up for a free-floating investigation into his businesses and that he believes — and must feel confirmed in the belief — that fortune favors the recklessly bold. If Trump doesn’t fire Mueller, it will only be because every other day he’s talked out of following his instincts.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/449718/yeah-trump-probably-going-fire-robert-mueller

 

[Mr. Giggles]

Mueller should play himself in the inevitable movie that comes out of this.

Dude looks like he forgot how to laugh

 

[cheezcake]

Trump to fire Rosenstein, who will he replace him with?

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

The movie adaptations to this are gonna be ridiculous. I am seriously wondering how serious a tone they are gonna play it? House of Cards seriousness? Pain and Gain levels of stupidity? Arrested Development?!?!/

Ocean's Eleven

 

[Koomaster]

I'm worried Mueller will find nothing... What happens then? Do we Banghazi/Email this or take him at his word and move on?

It certainly hasn't hurt the GOP at all as we are witnessing. So I don't see why not. I think we should all be skeptical if Mueller finds absolutely nothing with an investigation so large in scope. I'd want the dems to open more investigations and call Trump to the stand every other week over this until he dies. Fuck the whole going high bullshit. If this investigation finds nothing and the dems roll over and accept it at face value then there should be riots in the streets. Nobody should be moving on from this, ever.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

Counterpoint, I think they deliberately kept him out of the really impeachable and horrifying stuff because he's too stupid to be trusted with that kind of information.

Now that is exceptionally possible.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

Trump to fire Rosenstein, who will he replace him with?

He can't fire rosenstein

 

[Stinkles]

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/449718/yeah-trump-probably-going-fire-robert-mueller

I think he will try to do it but make an ass of the process (firing Rosenstein first etc) and people with will step in and stop him - likely his own lawyers .

I also think they will explain what a dead mans switch is to him. Not that he'll understand or listen

 

[HStallion]

Trump to fire Rosenstein, who will he replace him with?

OJ Simpson gets out in a few months.

 

[Debirudog]

there is nothing...after everything that has happened.

 

[JettDash]

He can't fire rosenstein

Yes he can. He can fire him for any or no reason.

 

[Stinkles]

there is nothing...after everything that has happened.

This really should be bannable at this point.

It's the opposite of nothing.

 

[Nafai1123]

Yes he can. He can fire him for any or no reason.

Wouldn't he have to make Sessions do it, and if Sessions refused he would have to fire Sessions and try to appoint a new AG who will?

there is nothing...after everything that has happened.

You have a funny definition of "nothing."

 

[VendettaRed07]

He can't fire rosenstein

He can. There's a line of succession as well where they won't need senate confirmation.

So he can just keep firing people until he finds someone who will

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

He can. There's a line of succession as well where they won't need senate confirmation.

So he can just keep firing people until he finds someone who will

Do it, please. God it would be so amazing.

 

[HStallion]

He can. There's a line of succession as well where they won't need senate confirmation.

So he can just keep firing people until he finds someone who will

Maybe he'll fire himself by accident

 

[Gutek]

Do it, please. God it would be so amazing.

What do you think will happen if he does?

 

[JettDash]

Wouldn't he have to make Sessions do it, and if Sessions refused he would have to fire Sessions and try to appoint a new AG who will?

No. Rosenstein is a political appointee. Trump can just fire him himself.

 

[tanooki27]

there is nothing...after everything that has happened.

there's an investigation. that's not nothing

once the investigation is over you can toot your nothing horn. if there really is nothing.

 

[subrock]

Maybe he'll fire himself by accident

"Whoever is running this shit show is fired! I don't want to see you come Monday morning. Just pack your shit and get out. No takebacksies."

 

[XMonkey]

Personally, I highly doubt it was nothing, I also doubt Trump was personally involved...he isn't that stupid.

Hahahah.

Trump is insane and thinks he's untouchable, he also likes being the decision maker. He may not have sat in on some of these meetings, but he absolutely knew what was going on. Hell, he nearly said as much about the Jr meeting in that NYT interview yesterday.

 

[pdog128]

Ocean's Eleven

I think Clooney could make a good Mueller.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

No, you move on. We don't get to do this, we aren't Republicans. We wanted a special investigator, we got one. Let them do their jobs, we will see what comes out of it all. If it turns out it was nothing, then its nothing.

Personally, I highly doubt it was nothing, I also doubt Trump was personally involved...he isn't that stupid.

I mean everyone in his inner circle is meeting with the same people, all doing the same things. I'd say it's impossible he wasn't giving directions.

 

[Zeus Molecules]

Counterpoint, I think they deliberately kept him out of the really impeachable and horrifying stuff because he's too stupid to be trusted with that kind of information.

His ego hasn't let that happen since so I doubt he was smart enough to stay away then

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

What do you think will happen if he does?

Further draws parallels to Watergate and makes it harder and harder for elected officials to support him and his agenda.

 

[Zeus Molecules]

Further draws parallels to Watergate and makes it harder and harder for elected officials to support him and his agenda.

I think republicans would revolt.... we've been seen mini revolts a lot and that would probably be the last straw

 

[Bob Coffee]

Since muller has widespread bipartisan support, if cheetoh fires him, congress will just reapoint.

 

[Walter White Walker]

No, you move on. We don't get to do this, we aren't Republicans. We wanted a special investigator, we got one. Let them do their jobs, we will see what comes out of it all. If it turns out it was nothing, then its nothing.

Personally, I highly doubt it was nothing, I also doubt Trump was personally involved...he isn't that stupid.

What in the world has shown you that he isn't that stupid?

 

[rjinaz]

Hahahah.

Trump is insane and thinks he's untouchable, he also likes being the decision maker. He may not have sat in on some of these meetings, but he absolutely knew what was going on. Hell, he nearly said as much about the Jr meeting in that NYT interview yesterday.

He is stupid. Shit we got proof just today when he said he thinks insurance premiums are $12 a year for some.

But, his money protects him. He has smart people around him doing the protection for him, lawyers, experts in moving money and what have you. My thoughts anyway.

 

[XMonkey]

He is stupid. Shit we got proof just today when he said he thinks insurance premiums are $12 a year for some.

But, his money protects him. He has smart people around him doing the protection for him, lawyers, experts in moving money and what have you. My thoughts anyway.

I don't know about the people around him either. His lawyers have shown themselves to be clowns, frankly.

I think a lot of this behavior comes down to his cadre operating their businesses in a mob-like fashion for such a long time that it just becomes the "normal" way things are done, which makes them lose perspective and not take the usual precautions. They've also been able to fly under the radar and get away with shit for so long that they start to feel like no one's watching. This attitude surely was on display during the campaign, likely due to not even them thinking Trump would win. Now he wins and they've got this incredibly intense spotlight on themselves and I think some of them are aware of it now, but it's kind of too late.

 

[Lemonz]

 

[ShutEye]

All I have to say is, like Mueller hasn't been looking into traitors finances since he started the job

 

[rjinaz]

I don't know about the people around him either. His lawyers have shown themselves to be clowns, frankly.

I think a lot of this behavior comes down to his cadre operating their businesses in a mob-like fashion for such a long time that it just becomes the "normal" way things are done, which makes them lose perspective and not take the usual precautions. They've also been able to fly under the radar and get away with shit for so long that they start to feel like no one's watching. This attitude surely was on display during the campaign, likely due to not even them thinking Trump would win. Now he wins and they've got this incredibly intense spotlight on themselves and I think some of them are aware of it now, but it's kind of too late.

I mean it's not like Trump just recently started doing shady shit. I'm sure it goes back decades and he never got caught. There has to be some level of competency there if that's the case.

I agree that now that the spotlight is on him it changes things and the man was a fool to ever run for presidency.

 

[Bleepey]

Ocean's Eleven

I can already see the scene that looks like this:

The seasoned hard nosed investigative journalist who is slaving through the night on multiple cups of coffee, chain smoking cigarettes, his wife has left him and he feels the Pulitzer is within arms reach and then:

 

[Xe4]

Given how much Trump settled out of court as a private business man? You think?

The Trump University case was a slam dunk. The guy is a conman. It isn't a question of if there's anything to find.

It's just a question of if they find enough of it to build a case.

Trump U was a civil case. It also didn't have the ex head of the FBI personally investigating. Nor was he president. It's going to take a lot, but I really do think something is going to come of this. I certainly don't think he'll end up in jail (let's be honest, Pence will probably pardon his ass if prosecution gets anywhere near him), but it'll be enough to force him to resign or cause impeachment, I think.

We shall see. I'm putting all of my though of the case in Mueller's investigation. If he says there's not enough of a case to be built against Trump, than that is that.

 

[theWB27]

Ill be ok with the trumps dying broke honestly.

 

[Fergie]

I mean it's not like Trump just recently started doing shady shit. I'm sure it goes back decades and he never got caught. There has to be some level of competency there if that's the case.

I agree that now that the spotlight is on him it changes things and the man was a fool to ever run for presidency.

Doesn't he settle majority of the time?

To him publicly he assumes that absolves him of guilt.

 

[VendettaRed07]

What do you think will happen if he does?

Well I'd imagine in this scenario it would be totally possible he fires everyone that's specifically lined up to succeed Rosenstein, but doesn't get lucky and everyone refuses and runs out of people that can do the position without senate confirmation.

Ideally that would be the best case scenario. We'd have verifiable evidence of him attempting to fire Mueller without actually being able to do it.

 

[chaosblade]

Out of curiosity, is there any real expectation that the GOP will act with anything more than written or verbal displays of disappointment if Mueller finds anything or gets fired? I'm just having a hard time seeing the current GOP impeach and remove their own president.

I feel like the Dems need to win big in the midterms for anything meaningful to come from this, but maybe I'm overestimating how shitty and corrupt the GOP is?