Music That Is Incomprehensibly Bad To You
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Jedeye Sniv
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My favourite what? Music? Maaaaaan I dunno, trying to pick something meaningful that isn't just the last thing I heard is the bane of my life. I will tell you that my top 3 bands are Slow Club, Los Campesinos and Titus Andronicus, but I don't think even that is representative of my library or even what I'm into at the moment. Being involved in local music, I'm pretty much just listening to my friends' bands and trying to find small scale artists that excite me.
Screaming Meat
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Jedeye Sniv
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Misinformed is a bullshit word, I have listened to far far more than my fair share of metal over the years. I'm informed enough.
I can get screaming, I love loud, obnoxious, toe curlingly aggressive music. But metal can be so conventional and generic.
dapperbandit
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"The thing that makes pop so bad is how good it is."
lol
Also, vis a vis your "still a fucking pig" and "at least they can play their own instruments" comments: a shit band playing a shit song is still fucking shit regardless of whether they wrote the song and/or play the instruments. That you learnt to play an instrument and used that talent to create the musical equivalent of Japanese vomit porn is more damning to me than someone who didn't write a song and pretends to play the instruments. You do not get +10 points for genuinely being shit as opposed to pretending to be shit.
Anyway
For me this is bad music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJrzKbN0ubU
But that's kind of so bad it's funny. Then it becomes less funny when you realise there are people out there who genuinely enjoy this stuff. Then it becomes funny again when you realise how easy it is to troll the fans of bands like this.
Homework and their 90s work was rock/pop friendly?
I would understand it if you were talking strictly about Discovery or RAM, but Homework, HAA, and their Alive albums are absolutely not pop friendly, apart from Around the World I suppose.
They certainly haven't been the first to do anything in electeonic music, but they were among the first to do it on the big stages.
Jedeye Sniv
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Excellent question. Personally, I like to express my 'humanity' (lol) by making my music sound as much like it would if I was playing right in front of you as possible. So, few overdubs, play the songs live right the way through, keep it loose, give myself room to make a bit up if I fancy it.
What exactly is "grime" music? This is just some dude rapping as far as I can tell. Honest question.
Say wha'?
UK hip hop music.
Jedeye Sniv
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I think what our boy Meat is saying is that his (our) favourite stuff has an element of "don't give a fuck" about it. It's a little off the cuff, a bit awkward maybe.
I've been thinking about it a lot lately actually - why is it that the mainstream needs their music to sound "perfect"? When you think about it, it's a fairly recent development and while I think crystalline perfection has its place, being the dominant mode of "this is how music should sound" is just odd to me when I try to really reason it out.
Pretty much I think that if you grew up with punk rock being a part of your head, you're going to be much more forgiving of weird sounding music, because some of those old punk records sound like utter shite.
Screaming Meat
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Fixed that for you, my good man.
Can't argue with that.
I don't care who writes the music. For instance, I'm not gonna condemn the London Philharmonic for not writing their own music, am I?
Also, you've taken the "play their own instruments" comment out of context:
See? I'm still have a dig at indie rock: it's still shallow, soulless, unexciting, and unimaginative... but they play their instruments! *Guffaw*
The "still a fucking pig" comment was to illustrate that just because an orchestra is used doesn't mean it's automatically "good" music. I could arrange Agadoo for a 45-piece orchestra and it would still be shit. Novel, sure, but shit nonetheless.
nailbombxx
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My point was that you described the blanket term of metal as devoid of variety, a term that covers an extremely vast spectrum of different styles and sounds.
In regards to your next statement, there is conventional and generic music in literally every genre. You will find bands in every genre who think they can just copy a style and automatically be considered good. You will find bands in every genre who think by taking some radical approach in music that they will automatically be considered good, regardless of their quality of music. In the realm of heavy metal there is a lot of tradition, and many bands try to innovate as well, many fail but many also execute these ideas well. Still, I think you are missing what is most important, whether or not they make quality music.
eot
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Bullshit word? Bullshit analogy.
Is this painting with black?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iwC2QljLn4
Don't make such extreme generalisations if you don't want to get called out on them.
Deified Data
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No, you just think video game music is synonymous with poor quality. With respect it's a fairly narrow perspective.
robotzombie
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I just saw Soundgarden and Nine Inch Nails in concert and Dillinger Escape Plan was the opener. They played music that is incomprehensibly bad to me.
Screaming Meat
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I think you've either misread my comment or got me mixed up with my chum Jedeye Sniv there, chief. In other words, I never said that.
swordfishtrombones
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Sample-based dance music was already very big in the late 80s, see e.g. S'Express, Bomb the Bass (Beat Dis) or M/A/R/R/S (Pump up the Volume).
Jedeye Sniv
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All the colours in the rainbow in metal, of course. It's SO DIVERSE.
And that Motorhead song is an inarguable classic of course. But it's not exactly modern metal is it? Probably one of the few classic rock songs that actually rocks like a bitch.
As I've said, I LOVE heavy music, but I like it more from the punk side than metal. IE, Converge vs Lamb of God or Baroness or something (struggled to think of a decent, modern, HEAVY metal band, feel free to school me with something good). In my eyes, it's like knives vs bricks. One is sharp and flashy and pointy, the other is heavy and blunt and will stove your head in. Both will cause pain (in the fun consensual way). But in all ways - conceptual, aural, visual, psychological, I like my heaviness a bit punkier.
Jedeye Sniv
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More specifically, I think that listening to video game music as a primary source of musical entertainment makes you intellectually and spiritually malnourished.
Ha, I caught that tour in Toronto and luckily DEP wasn't the opening act. I find them to just be unpleasant noise.
RobotNinjaHornets
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Where would you put Torche?
Jedeye Sniv
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Link me brah, never heard of em
you hear sunbather?
Screaming Meat
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Away. Gimme Floor back!
Jedeye Sniv
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Yeah I thought that was pretty good, although tbh I felt it was more post-rock leaning (which is very much in my wheelhouse). I was impressed by the sheer scope of the sound but I found it a bit much to listen to all the way through.
AFollowerNotALeader
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I find it hard to hate on entire genres.
I mean, I pretty much dislike rap/pop/r'n'b music in general, but even there there are some artists/songs I like.
Similarly, I really really really like metal, country and bluegrass in general but some of it is excrement.
Hmm.
I'm basically allergic to The Beatles. Does that make up for it?
I mean, I pretty much dislike rap/pop/r'n'b music in general, but even there there are some artists/songs I like.
Similarly, I really really really like metal, country and bluegrass in general but some of it is excrement.
Hmm.
I'm basically allergic to The Beatles. Does that make up for it?
I'm pretty tolerant of almostall music. As a teen I was all about rock/metal, anything else wasn't "real music".
I got over that, and aside I can appreciate all genres to an extent.
But Nickleback...
Everyone has their limits.
nailbombxx
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If you're mentioning Lamb of God, I can see why you don't really like heavy metal that much.
My soulmate! Yes ska... especially the mighty mighty bosstones type. I cringe just thinking about it.
Jedeye Sniv
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Help me out here bro, what is the best metal song of the past 5 years? I promise to listen to it very loud and not be a dick until it's finished.
Screaming Meat
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Don't even get me started on fucking Ska.
No, happy hardcore is awesome.
How does this not make you feel good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KJ__06kyxs
That's a good epitaph. Ugh. Ska.
MASTODON! You forgot Mastodon you crotchety bastard!
Buddha Beam
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I never could hear anything in rap, with a tiny handful of exceptions. Same goes for punk or by thing where you just sort of scream.
But I can understand why that music could be fun to play.
But I can understand why that music could be fun to play.
nailbombxx
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That is a very tough answer to give, because like I said, heavy metal in general is very diverse and there are many different styles that people would subjectively like or dislike. It really depends on what you're looking for.
I don't get Hozier's appeal. His music is slow without being moving or particularly melodic. The "faux blues and gospel" is kind of weird, too.
This Sia song someone made a thread about yesterday. It's a shame too because I liked Titanium but good lord this music is just incomprehensible trash. In fact most music like this is awful, they all use the same exact 2 note piano keys along with the same trance beat I've been hearing for years. Most music from movies and games is bad too, just orchestral noise, nothing else to it.
It's an offshoot of garage which in turn is an offshoot of house. The best way to think of it would be stripped down dubstep with rapping.
CarpeDeezNutz
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Gaffer posted some dude manhandling a piano like an idiot. That sucked.
RobotNinjaHornets
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Dooood, Torche are rad
On the topic of ska, don't throw all of it under the bus pls. Streetlight Manifesto and anything with Jeff Rosenstock are great.
Uh oh, I think I liked that. I skipped around a bit so I need to make sure there are no hidden terrible singing parts. Then I need to look up the band to determine how much embarrassment I should feel.
Screaming Meat
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That sounds amazing. Link please!
Check out Kvelertak.
Screaming Meat
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If you throw a Ska band under a bus I imagine they'll sound much better.
RobotNinjaHornets
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pls don't kill Rosenstock :C
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