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My 200gb maxtor harddrive just crashed
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CaptainABAB
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I got 2 external WDs (80Gb and 160GB), so with the internal drive that makes 3 drives. Anything that is important to me and that I can't replace by reinstaling is backed up at least to one other drive. This way, I'm only screwed if I lose 2 drives at the same time.
CD & DVD backups are ok, but they are a pain compared to simple hd->hd copies, most folks avoid doing it. Plus, I can automate my backups with scripts.
If you are not backing up, think of it this way. If the drive did crash, how much would you be willing to pay to recover it? If you say $500, then why not buy a $150 extra hard drive and avoid the issue entirely.
CD & DVD backups are ok, but they are a pain compared to simple hd->hd copies, most folks avoid doing it. Plus, I can automate my backups with scripts.
If you are not backing up, think of it this way. If the drive did crash, how much would you be willing to pay to recover it? If you say $500, then why not buy a $150 extra hard drive and avoid the issue entirely.
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neptunes said:
GuntherBait
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No, it's known that maxtor is the CHEAPEST brand of HDD anyone could buy, that's why people who know don't buy them and either use Seagate or IBM.Tre said:
Teknopathetic
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I repeat, User. Error.
There's nothing wrong with Maxtor hard drives. Depending on what you want in a hard drive, there are good reasons to get Maxtor, Western Digital, or Seagate.
mattx5: Yes, certain models of Seagate HD's are very quiet. Check here for more info:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/
mattx5: Yes, certain models of Seagate HD's are very quiet. Check here for more info:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/
GuntherBait
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Define user error?Tre said:
GuntherBait
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Yeah, that's what I thought. Slut.
My two older Maxtor drives have been working great for quite some time...
However, the 120gb I bought earlier this year died in just 3 months. I decided to give Seagate a try...
In the meantime, I need to rescue the bit of stuff that I still want from that Maxtor and then RMA it. When it returns, I'll just back-up important stuff on it and put it in a box.
However, the 120gb I bought earlier this year died in just 3 months. I decided to give Seagate a try...
In the meantime, I need to rescue the bit of stuff that I still want from that Maxtor and then RMA it. When it returns, I'll just back-up important stuff on it and put it in a box.
Teknopathetic
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GuntherBait: Generally, user error's just ignorance of basic things causing 'errors' that don't occur with someone who knows better. The problem's not the computer, it's the user.
GuntherBait
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Question, you guys who have these big ass HDD"s have DVD burners right?
GuntherBait
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Wow, way to not answer my question.Tre said:
Define User Error would mean that he intentionally fucked up his HDD by putting in a cable wrong, putting in a power molex power cord wrong EVEN THOUGH, it had been working prior to it's failure?
So, either you have all Maxtor drives or you just don't know what you're talking about.
Teknopathetic
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"Define user error?"
You know, if you want a more specific answer than that, generally, you'll want to--I don't know--use a more specific question?
And my user error comment was made in general to everyone in the thread complaining about Maxtor. Reading comprehension.
"So, either you have all Maxtor drives"
And currently...I do. You're trying a little too hard to sound like an internet intellectual tough guy. It's pretty funny.
You know, if you want a more specific answer than that, generally, you'll want to--I don't know--use a more specific question?
And my user error comment was made in general to everyone in the thread complaining about Maxtor. Reading comprehension.
"So, either you have all Maxtor drives"
And currently...I do. You're trying a little too hard to sound like an internet intellectual tough guy. It's pretty funny.
I'm using a 160GB Maxtor drive now and have used several of their drives in the past. While they're certainly not the most quite drives in the world and their 7200RPM drives can run REALLY hot if not decently cooled, I've got no complaints. Now Quantum, man, their quality assurance team must've consisted of angry drunk monkeys. I'm not even sure if they're around anymore. If not, thank goodness...
GuntherBait
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Tought guy?Tre said:"Define user error?"
You know, if you want a more specific answer than that, generally, you'll want to--I don't know--use a more specific question?
And my user error comment was made in general to everyone in the thread complaining about Maxtor. Reading comprehension.
"So, either you have all Maxtor drives"
And currently...I do. You're trying a little too hard to sound like an internet intellectual tough guy. It's pretty funny.
Hardly, I'm pointing out that a user error in installing a hard drive, probably means the dip shouldn't be handling the HDD in the first place.
Fine... I'll ask you another question...
Define user error in the user screwing up an installed hard drive that fails on him because it's a maxtor?
Teknopathetic
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"Hardly, I'm pointing out that a user error in installing a hard drive, probably means the dip shouldn't be handling the HDD in the first place."
Heh, that goes without saying.
"Define user error in the user screwing up an installed hard drive that fails on him because it's a maxtor?"
Well, first I'd have to ask how a drive can "fail" just because it's a maxtor. ALL hard drive brands fail, the label has nothing to do with that.
Secondly, heat is an issue, although, that kind of links back to installation. Failing to put the PC on a UPS, repeatedly shutting down the PC without going through the whole shut down, BS.
Heh, that goes without saying.
"Define user error in the user screwing up an installed hard drive that fails on him because it's a maxtor?"
Well, first I'd have to ask how a drive can "fail" just because it's a maxtor. ALL hard drive brands fail, the label has nothing to do with that.
Secondly, heat is an issue, although, that kind of links back to installation. Failing to put the PC on a UPS, repeatedly shutting down the PC without going through the whole shut down, BS.
GuntherBait
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True Tre, I'll admit that Murphy's law applies to all HDD's. If it can fail, it will. I guess my point is I've seen/heard more people with failed maxtor drives than Seagate drives.Tre said:"Hardly, I'm pointing out that a user error in installing a hard drive, probably means the dip shouldn't be handling the HDD in the first place."
Heh, that goes without saying.
"Define user error in the user screwing up an installed hard drive that fails on him because it's a maxtor?"
Well, first I'd have to ask how a drive can "fail" just because it's a maxtor. ALL hard drive brands fail, the label has nothing to do with that.
Secondly, heat is an issue, although, that kind of links back to installation. Failing to put the PC on a UPS, repeatedly shutting down the PC without going through the whole shut down, BS.
That fair to say?
Teknopathetic
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It's more or less equal between WD/Maxtor, but I can't tell you that *you* haven't read more negative things about maxtor than anyone else.
GuntherBait
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True. I'll leave our conversation at that.Tre said:
Spectral Glider
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You guys are seriuosly misguided if you think there's any major manufacturing differences between all these hard drives. Prolly all made in Malaysia, prolly even some built at the same plants. Don't give in to marketing and of all things, HDD fanboyism, for pete's sake.
GuntherBait
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Yeah, we'll just pretend you didn't post that mkay?Spectral Glider said:
Error Macro
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Tre said:
WTF is this shit? I had been working on and building computers for about 12 years at the point when I bought my first Maxtor drive and had it shit out on me. I did nothing wrong. I used anti-static bracelets, de-magnetized screwdrivers, the case temperature was within a good operating range, the hard drive was never jolted, bumped, dropped, shocked, anything... and the son of a bitch had a head crash. THIS ALSO HAPPENED ON THE SUBSEQUENT FOUR DRIVES THAT MAXTOR SENT ME IN RETURN. All failed within 2-3 months. After you have an experience like that, I think you'd tend to agree that it was because THE HARD DRIVES WERE ABSOLUTE PIECES OF SHIT.
GuntherBait
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I would agree with you because you type in Caps AND YOU HAVE BABY BOUNCE IN YOUR AVATAR G!Error Macro said:
Tre said:"Define user error?"
You know, if you want a more specific answer than that, generally, you'll want to--I don't know--use a more specific question?
And my user error comment was made in general to everyone in the thread complaining about Maxtor. Reading comprehension.
"So, either you have all Maxtor drives"
And currently...I do. You're trying a little too hard to sound like an internet intellectual tough guy. It's pretty funny.
I dont think I ever got a job that wasnt related to the computer field and I've built over 500+ systems in my relatively short IT career.. I think I know how to use, build and maintain a frigging system
Hardware failures happen all the time, and indeed Maxtor is quite teh average brand. I only bought them for home use because they were cheap but worked decently, until having two incidents in a row.
I'm going all out on the raid system at home so that this doesnt happen again.
edit: In retrospect I'm 90% sure that the hd died because of excessive heat. The system has been on 24/7 working as a local file server/gaming pc/encoding madness workhorse. It has only be shutted down 3 times in a year, two times for upgrades, and last time when the 120gb died. The HD died on a fucking awful record heat day two days ago, and i remember how the whole fucking pc case was warm, even if the sides were removed.
Funny thing is, i was planning to building a leet ventilation system this weekend. And two days before the crash, i was thinking about doing a backup of my main partition.
then boom.
Jugendstil
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Maxtor stuff is crap, and I was warned extensively by friends that knew that before I bought my Maxtor hd, but I didn't listen and bought it anyway. Of course it failed within a year, but that might be just because I'm not a super duper teenaged computer wizard.
Even though my drive crashed, I wouldn't really blame Maxtor for this one. We've had computers in our family since around 1989, I think we have about 5-6 networked, and my crash is the second time an HD has ever crashed in our household.
I just don't want people to get too paranoid. Realise that the only people posting in this thread (mostly) are those who have experienced HD crashes, and that the majority of the board hasn't.
I just don't want people to get too paranoid. Realise that the only people posting in this thread (mostly) are those who have experienced HD crashes, and that the majority of the board hasn't.
Teknopathetic
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I dunno, me and Gunther managed our conversation without any insults and amicably. You haven't been hitting the sauce again, have you?
Woah, didn't see this thread. I have Maxtor 6Y120P0, had it since the begining of this year. I've been filtering stuff between drives & haven't had any problems. But after reading through this thread I'm sweating bricks, literally! I remember a while back before I bought it, a friend warned me about Maxtor, but I sorta blew it off as nothing.
Fuck.... I think a DVD burner is now a necessity, I was planning to buy, but its beyond planning now.
Fuck.... I think a DVD burner is now a necessity, I was planning to buy, but its beyond planning now.
I don't think anyone should come into this thread and start worrying about their drives. A hard drive is a fallible piece of technology. Maxtor or otherwise, hard drives sometimes fail.
EDIT: Though maybe that idea is news to some people... so thinking about backing up is never a bad idea.
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EDIT: Though maybe that idea is news to some people... so thinking about backing up is never a bad idea.
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GuntherBait
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Yes, if you have a drive over 100GB, you need to have a DVD burner, that's just logical.Trevelyon said:
The Shadow
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Spectral Glider said:
VOICE OF REASON
As I said, I have two ancient Maxtors that still work to this day. People that say they've had Maxtors that blow up, murder their family, summon demons, etc, do not reflect other people's experience.
EviLore said:
Also... the bigger the hard drive, the less likely it is to be reliable; at least right now that seems to be the case. There's only so much data you can fit onto that disk platter, y'know. The bigger the drive, the harder it is for it to manage sectors and things of that nature. I have a 120GB drive, but I probably should have bought two 60GB ones.
I have a Maxtor 40GB drive that's been used for almost four years now, still works fine. Then there's this 120GB Maxtor that has been used for close to a year and a half. It did have a hard time spinning up a couple months ago... I don't know why. But I've had no problems ever since *keeps fingers crossed* It's the 6Y120P0.
Also, a hard drive crashing can't be "user error" unless you are some n00b that likes to delete random files to "free up the memory" (I love it when people talk like that, cracks me up) or force the IDE cable in backwards or some shit. This ain't linux or some beta software, Tre.
Whoever said Quantam sucks is so right. I had a 10GB Quantam when I first got my HP Pavilion years ago. The drive sucks. It doesn't crash, but its performance decreased over time, significantly -- even if you formatted it. Then again, I stopped using it and bought a maxtor, so for all I know it could have crashed. And it probably would have based on its performance decrease.
CaptainABAB said:
Hi Captain. You mention that if the hard drive crashes and burns, you can recover it for a fee of $500....this is the first I've heard of that. Is this true? Can all data on a failed/crashed hard drive be recovered for a fee? How sucessful are the recoverers at doing this? Is there any risk involved of permantly losing the data during this process? I would greatly appreciate it if someone could address this question.
To the hard drive experts....
I was wondering....You mention that if the hard drive crashes and burns, you can recover it for a fee of $500....this is the first I've heard of that. Is this true? Can all data on a failed/crashed hard drive be recovered for a fee? How sucessful are the recoverers at doing this? Is there any risk involved of permantly losing the data during this process? I would greatly appreciate it if someone could address this question.
I was wondering....You mention that if the hard drive crashes and burns, you can recover it for a fee of $500....this is the first I've heard of that. Is this true? Can all data on a failed/crashed hard drive be recovered for a fee? How sucessful are the recoverers at doing this? Is there any risk involved of permantly losing the data during this process? I would greatly appreciate it if someone could address this question.
There's never a 100% chance that all the data will be recovered, and I am pretty sure it costs more than $500. More like $10,500.
They usually will be only able to recover half of the drive at best, at least that's what I heard. So that could be a lot of your files or just windows and some other unimportant crap.
They usually will be only able to recover half of the drive at best, at least that's what I heard. So that could be a lot of your files or just windows and some other unimportant crap.
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