My .50cal exploded in my face

Yeah, I think that muzzle brake was probably a big factor in that accident.
Muzzle brakes only direct gas in the way they're pointed, as opposed to suppressors which can result in higher gas pressure in the system than what the manufacturer intended. As the bullet passes through the muzzle the break simply directs the gas backwards outside firearm, compensating for the Newtonian physics of the bullet suddenly going supersonic. Suppressors essentially 'catch' the supersonic gas, forcing it to slow down, and can result in higher pressures in a gas-run system as the pressure that was designed to blow out the muzzle behind the bullet lingers for a split-second in the can.

This accident sounds like a flaw in the metallurgy of the threads in the screw-on breach block. There's a reason Barrets cost $12,000 msrp, .50 BMG is no joke.
 
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Why would you even play with such dangerous "toys" in the first place.

Wish him luck and go find a healthier hobby.
I just ate a delicious chuck roast that I cooked Sous Vide for 30 hours at 135 degrees, completely against all recommendations from every government health organizations in existence. Life entails risk, enjoy your CDC-approved well-done steak if you think differently.
 
This is why i just don't own any.
So you trust the "racist" cops to protect you?

Note that I don't think the cops are racist, I just think weak people who won't defend themselves deserve what they get.

Edit- I think every law-abiding American should be strapped to the teeth, there's a reason why every totalitarian shit-hole is terrified at the notion of a land invasion of the USA.
 
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Blade2.0

Member
So you trust the "racist" cops to protect you?

Note that I don't think the cops are racist, I just think weak people who won't defend themselves deserve what they get.

Edit- I think every law-abiding American should be strapped to the teeth, there's a reason why every totalitarian shit-hole is terrified at the notion of a land invasion of the USA.
Lol, don't need a gun for defense.
 

jufonuk

not tag worthy
As European all I can say is what the fuck?!?
same reason people have unprotected sex. It feels good.
what makes you say that tommy wiseau GIF by The Room
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
I'm sure I speak for most people in civilised countries, what the fuck is it with 'muricans and their fucking obsession with lethal kill sticks? How in the Holie of fucks has this been ingrained into your society and considered normal
 

C4.lukin

Banned
A 50 cal.. Not useful outside of invasion.

But enogh of that, I have a lot of bad gun stories.

. Y step father a day ago, went and got his pistol, because he heard a knocking that he thought was coming from outside,.

So my mom has a singing closet. Where she records stuff. And when I need to talk to her, I knock on the door. Meanwhile my dad hears the knocking, and grabs a gun.
 
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INC

Member
I'm sure I speak for most people in civilised countries, what the fuck is it with 'muricans and their fucking obsession with lethal kill sticks? How in the Holie of fucks has this been ingrained into your society and considered normal

The 2nd amendment
 

Arkam

Member
The 2nd amendment
They won’t ever understand. Those “civilized” peoples had their revolutions in a world that had been conquered hundreds of years earlier.

It’s like getting city folk to understand rural living. They just don’t know what they don’t know.
 
So you trust the "racist" cops to protect you?

Note that I don't think the cops are racist, I just think weak people who won't defend themselves deserve what they get.

Edit- I think every law-abiding American should be strapped to the teeth, there's a reason why every totalitarian shit-hole is terrified at the notion of a land invasion of the USA.

"Racist cops".... You think that you are as good or as equal with your guns, to a police officer? Doesn't matter what you think of cops, that is their job. You as a random citizen live in some parallel world where you think you can just shoot anyone you want. No matter what shit some cops do, AT LEAST they got training of what is allowed and what isnt. You never had that training and you will end up in a cell faster than a terrorist if you think you are allowed to pull out your gun at any thought of your safety being in jeopardy. Firing a warning shot to scare of someone, if they didn't have a weapon on them, that is jail/heavy fine for you buddy.

We dont live in the wild west anymore, thank god for that. Its bozos like you that have some power trip that having a collection of guns makes you above the law. If everyone was strapped as you said, we wouldnt have random Karen freakouts videos on YT. There would be supermarket killings on a daily basis, school shooting would go through the roof, maybe even daily. Stop watching UFC, hang out with someone that isnt a dude bro friend that talks about taking care of the situation but never threw a punch in their life. Go talk to a real soldier, special forces, they would laugh in your face.

And no, i cant think of a single nation afraid of the US lol. Again thats your TV show obsession talking. Russia, China, North Korea are real threats because they dont give two shits and will fuck you up in seconds. They dont care for law or what is allowed or not in those moments, they control the media so they can be even more brutal than what is shown. The US arrest a terrorist and they cant even torture the guy for info because....laws and civil rights lol. Yeah, real scary nation, gonna tickle my feet when you invade?
 
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RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
The 2nd amendment
Yeah but wasn't that like hundreds of years ago and designed when youse where a fledgling nation but what reason do you have now in the 21st century for every Tom dick and Harry to own kill sticks? Or do youse muppets still cling to some notion that you could overthrow the government or repel a north Korean invasion lol
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
"Racist cops".... You think that you are as good or as equal with your guns, to a police officer? Doesn't matter what you think of cops, that is their job. You as a random citizen live in some parallel world where you think you can just shoot anyone you want. No matter what shit some cops do, AT LEAST they got training of what is allowed and what isnt. You never had that training and you will end up in a cell faster than a terrorist if you think you are allowed to pull out your gun at any thought of your safety being in jeopardy. Firing a warning shot to scare of someone, if they didn't have a weapon on them, that is jail/heavy fine for you buddy.

We dont live in the wild west anymore, thank god for that. Its bozos like you that have some power trip that having a collection of guns makes you above the law. If everyone was strapped as you said, we wouldnt have random Karen freakouts videos on YT. There would be supermarket killings on a daily basis, school shooting would go through the roof, maybe even daily. Stop watching UFC, hang out with someone that isnt a dude bro friend that talks about taking care of the situation but never threw a punch in their life. Go talk to a real soldier, special forces, they would laugh in your face.

And no, i cant think of a single nation afraid of the US lol. Again thats your TV show obsession talking. Russia, China, North Korea are real threats because they dont give two shits and will fuck you up in seconds. They dont care for law or what is allowed or not in those moments, they control the media so they can be even more brutal than what is shown. The US arrest a terrorist and they cant even torture the guy for info because....laws and civil rights lol. Yeah, real scary nation, gonna tickle my feet when you invade?
Ack c'mon lad, really? Russia? Big scary Putin, Russia where an actual threat during the cold war, they're nothing more than a gangster state still thinking their a big man on the global stage,

North Korea can barely feed its own people and is no more a threat than my dead granny FFS.

China? They don't want a war, haven't fought one in years besides they're in this for the long run and will simply overtake you economically without firing a single bullet.

And if you think the 'muricans don't resort to questionable interrogation practices outside of your borders... I've some magic beans to sell you.
 

INC

Member
Yeah but wasn't that like hundreds of years ago and designed when youse where a fledgling nation but what reason do you have now in the 21st century for every Tom dick and Harry to own kill sticks? Or do youse muppets still cling to some notion that you could overthrow the government or repel a north Korean invasion lol

......im british, their laws dont effect me, just stating thats why they have all this shit
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
......im british, their laws dont effect me, just stating thats why they have all this shit
We had the awful Dunblane massacre and the entire country went Fuuuuuuuuuuck that shit get weapons banned and Americans have mass shootings every other day and continue as normal... It's mental to me is all
 
The video didn't actually look as bad as the aftermath...sheesh. More power to him and glad he pulled through but I just don't trust myself to build a firearm from scratch like that out of after market parts. Like could I build a car with the right parts sure...but its not going to be as thoroughly safety tested as a car built by Toyota or even GM. I'd rather buy a Glock or S&W that's ready to go out of the box than trust my clumsy ass not to miss a pin or something putting an AR together and blowing my face off.
 

Blade2.0

Member
We had the awful Dunblane massacre and the entire country went Fuuuuuuuuuuck that shit get weapons banned and Americans have mass shootings every other day and continue as normal... It's mental to me is all
It's mental to a lot of us Americans as well, but the 2nd amendment has won. (Even though it clearly stated well regulated militia in the 2nd amendment but us americans just kind of skip that part and act like there should be zero regulations on fire arms.)
 

Azurro

Banned
So you trust the "racist" cops to protect you?

Note that I don't think the cops are racist, I just think weak people who won't defend themselves deserve what they get.

Edit- I think every law-abiding American should be strapped to the teeth, there's a reason why every totalitarian shit-hole is terrified at the notion of a land invasion of the USA.

I'm pretty sure it's not because of rednecks' and hillbillies' arsenals. :)
 
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sleepnaught

Member
So you trust the "racist" cops to protect you?

Note that I don't think the cops are racist, I just think weak people who won't defend themselves deserve what they get.

Edit- I think every law-abiding American should be strapped to the teeth, there's a reason why every totalitarian shit-hole is terrified at the notion of a land invasion of the USA.
Those "totalitarian shit holes" have no desire to invade the US. You think Russia or China cares about invading the US? China wants US out of the Pacific and Russia wants the US out of Europe. As what the US does beyond that, they couldn't give two shits. If anyone, it should be the US scared to invade totalitarian shitholes. All we seem to do these days is lose wars and deplete the treasury, while leaving legions of disfigured American soldiers at the mercy of our shitty healthcare system. But, hey, Support Our Troops, amirite guys? Nah, aint no one scared of this declining, rotting shit hole called America. While the US rots from the inside out, China has already secured the 21st century.
 
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RaptorGTA

Member
Can you explain further because what you said doesn’t make sense. Brass casing is ejected out of the firearm, it doesn’t go down range. How did a casing come back at you?

derp yea, meant the metal jacket around the lead round was what came back..not the brass casing.
 

daveonezero

Banned
This is why i just don't own any.
They don’t walk around randomly shooting themselves off.

With almost half a billion guns in the US this is a very rare occursnce. The vast majority are very safe to operate.

I don’t know much about this firearm but I don’t think this is a common thing.
 

daveonezero

Banned
It's mental to a lot of us Americans as well, but the 2nd amendment has won. (Even though it clearly stated well regulated militia in the 2nd amendment but us americans just kind of skip that part and act like there should be zero regulations on fire arms.)
Well regulated in context means maintained and know how to manipulate.

Militia is literally everyone.
 

INC

Member
We had the awful Dunblane massacre and the entire country went Fuuuuuuuuuuck that shit get weapons banned and Americans have mass shootings every other day and continue as normal... It's mental to me is all

America has like 300millin people with guns, and probably triple that in actual guns out there

UK had basically fuck all, its completely different, we've never had a gun lust in this country, the lack of guns here doesn't make it that difficult, most guns were held in clubs etc etc
I mean we don't have a total ban on guns , if you have the land and shit

Australia was the same believe

Too may guns in USA now, how are you ever going to ban them? Impossible
 
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daveonezero

Banned
So he used this flimsy thing...

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...to shoot a bullet intended to be used with this...

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I'm glad he survived and he sure is a badass for putting a thumb in his gaping neck-wound, but that was a pretty dumb thumb thing to do.
The rifle isn’t flimsy. It is made to shoot the 50 just fine. Here is a statement from the CEO and designer.



the round probably would have blown up the mounted machine gun.
 

INC

Member
Why?

lots of people are in here saying this yet it is a freak accident.
That model rifle has probably been shot 100s of thousands of times with no fauilure like this.

Tbf that 1 time can be fatal, most other guns are less likely to be fatal, most dont shoot a hockey puck of steel at 75000psi into your face on failure
 
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The rifle isn’t flimsy. It is made to shoot the 50 just fine. Here is a statement from the CEO and designer.



the round probably would have blown up the mounted machine gun.

I'm sure the designer and gun salesman has a vested interest in defending his rifle if he wants to continue selling it. In his own words:

"A detonation is a detonation. I would say that would have blown up any gun. Some people have been telling me through private messages that even the M2 machine guns get blown up by those messed up rounds."

First of all, a detonation is not a detonation. That's a really dumb thing to say. Second of all, even in his video he cannot give conclusive evidence that the M2 would have blown up in the same way. I'm pretty sure even a faulty bullet would not have caused the M2 to fail in the same catastrophic manner as his rifle due to the much sturdier receiver design. The M2 also has no metal screw cap that can fly off and kill its user. So even if the M2 would have blown up, it would likely not have resulted in the same catastrophic damage.

The guy from Forgotten Weapons explains pretty well why these gun designs are a safety travesty:



Basically these rifles are not designed to mitigate the forces in case of a failure, thus putting the user at a much higher risk than necessary.
 
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12Goblins

Lil’ Gobbie
American gun culture is a bit strange. Probably get a more wholesome and safer hobby, especially if you have children to care after..

But holy fuck that is insanely lucky that he lived. Imagine being the dad and filming your son's death

Still not entirely clear to me how this happened.
 
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daveonezero

Banned
I'm sure the designer and gun salesman has a vested interest in defending his rifle if he wants to continue selling it. In his own words:



First of all, a detonation is not a detonation. That's a really dumb thing to say. Second of all, even in his video he cannot give conclusive evidence that the M2 would have blown up in the same way. I'm pretty sure even a faulty bullet would not have caused the M2 to fail in the same catastrophic manner as his rifle due to the much sturdier receiver design. The M2 also has no metal screw cap that can fly off and kill its user. So even if the M2 would have blown up, it would likely not have resulted in the same catastrophic damage.

The guy from Forgotten Weapons explains pretty well why these gun designs are a safety travesty:



Basically these rifles are not designed to mitigate the forces in case of a failure, thus putting the user at a much higher risk than necessary.

He also has a vested interest to not have this happen. As the video shows this isn’t the fault of the rifle but the round. A normal round fired normally from the rifle.

it isn’t his fault that someone took an unknown round and put it in his rifle design.
Yes there are changes that can be made to mitigate a failure like this but it is clearly an accident.

Will this make him change the design? Probably.
 
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dave_d

Member
Why would you even play with such dangerous "toys" in the first place.

Wish him luck and go find a healthier hobby.
Why do some people base jump? Why do others fly experimental aircraft high on drugs and doing stunts?(But he totally didn't go "Whee I'm maverick.") People do tons of stupid stuff.
 

daveonezero

Banned
Milita - a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.

It ain't, but that's my point.
That was not what it meant when the authors wrote it. There is factual evidence

Changing the definition to modern times does not change the intent of the words.


“I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”

George Mason, Co-author of the Second Amendment during Virginia’s Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves . . . and include all men capable of bearing arms. . . To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms… The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle.”

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Blade2.0

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That was not what it meant when the authors wrote it. There is factual evidence

Changing the definition to modern times does not change the intent of the words.




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it still says WELL REGULATED even if we use your definition.
 

daveonezero

Banned
it still says WELL REGULATED even if we use your definition.

Ok. but that means there is no one to "regulate" than the individual in the militia. There is no other enforcement other than the individual.

Even if your definition of well regulated in that context is different than mine you do not have a right or legal standing to tell me how to regulate my arms.
 
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