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My cousin is a crazy mysogonistic dick obsessed with rape and fascism.

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-MD-

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I think it's a bit lame that your family won't let him have meat in the house. I'd be pissed off 24/7 if I went longer than a few days without meat.

But yeah this dude is likely heavily depressed.
 

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I think it's a bit lame that your family won't let him have meat in the house. I'd be pissed off 24/7 if I went longer than a few days without meat..

You are wrong. It's their house, their rules. If he doesn't like it then he can go somewhere else.
 

-MD-

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You are wrong. It's their house, their rules. If he doesn't like it then he can go somewhere else.

I'm not wrong about anything that I said, it's a dumb rule. If I went over to a friends house holding a burger in my hand and he said to me "sorry bro, only rice and beans in this house" I would surely say "wow, that is a dumb rule"

As you said it's their house though so they have the right to enforce dumb rules as they please.
 
He sounds like a nutjob, to put it bluntly.
I'd keep him away from any young female family members, he might be a danger to them.
Also, do everything in your power to prevent him joining the police force.
 

Famassu

Member
So the crazy dude has to be unnatural because they are? The change in diet could be having an adverse effect.

What the fuck. What kind of silly shit is this? There's nothing unnatural in vegetarianism and I've yet to hear a proper vegetarian diet having any kind of adverse effects on anyone who doesn't have some kind of dietary restrictions/problems with digestion or something. >_>;

I'm not wrong about anything that I said, it's a dumb rule. If I went over to a friends house holding a burger in my hand and he said to me "sorry bro, only rice and beans in this house" I would surely say "wow, that is a dumb rule"

As you said it's their house though so they have the right to enforce dumb rules as they please.
It's not a dumb rule.
 

Village

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Wow...
I can say I do have crazy relatives, I just have ... removed myself from so much of my family I do not interact with them anymore. Let alone.. live with them, the crazies i mean .

I hope your situation works out, .. just wow.
 

Famassu

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I think it's a bit lame that your family won't let him have meat in the house. I'd be pissed off 24/7 if I went longer than a few days without meat.
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Ah, you're one of those people who aren't willing to change or try anything out of their comfort zone and have this silly overglorification of meat going on, as if it's somehow irreplaceable and there can be nothing even remotely as good as meat. Going without meat is surprisingly easy. I thought a little bit like that in the past, that I probably couldn't become a vegetarian and abandon eating chicken and stuff (though, I've never done that overly silly glorification of meat as some kind of food of gods like people like you do, I just liked the taste of chicken & all and didn't understand how easily they are replaced in any food). Then I tried a vegetarian diet for a month as a part of a kind of try-life-without-meat-for-a-month "challenge" and noticed vegetarian food can be extremely tasty and there are so many ways of replacing meat in your food that not eating meat became a non-problem. Then I started thinking all the ecological & moral problems with meat production (as in, meat production is possibly (one of) the worst environmental problems we'll ever face and if I can live without having to kill anyone or anything, then why wouldn't I?) and decided that was it for me & meat. I could still make extremely delicious lasagne, curry-chicken like food, veggieburgers and all of my other favorite foods (and even found a lot of new favorites when experimenting with different sorts of stuff), there's even an easy way of making vegan-bacon that, imho, tastes better than real bacon (though, I have to admit I've never really liked the taste of bacon, it's like someone accidentally tipped over the whole salt sprinkler bottle while cooking the meat -_-; ).
 
Hire a boxing ring, get him in there and give him a punishing beat down. Repeat on a weekly basis along with some gruelling cv work till he changes.
 
I think there's more troubling things about this guy than his lack of willingness to embrace a change in diet. But, yeah, let's keep focusing on that. Oh, Gaf.
 

Ikael

Member
It seems that your cousin has some very serious issues. You should talk with his parents, and put him into therapy. He is clearly not alright. But first he should realize that he has, indeed a problem. Make him notice how being angry all the damn time is not something that he likes. If he wish to change, he must start to re-think many of his attitudes. I do believe that in this case, his ideas are a symptom rather than the cause.
 
I have a friend exactly like this guy in every way. And I'll give you some advice.

Don't worry even for a second about whether or not this guy will kill himself. He won't. He just won't. Trust me on this. If you can't spot a bit of cowardice in this guy, trust me, he thinks he's too good to die having done nothing.

Now do what you have to do and quit letting him get inside your head to prey on your sympathy.
 

-MD-

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Ah, you're one of those people who aren't willing to change or try anything out of their comfort zone and have this silly overglorification of meat going on, as if it's somehow irreplaceable and there can be nothing even remotely as good as meat. Going without meat is surprisingly easy. I thought a little bit like that in the past, that I probably couldn't become a vegetarian and abandon eating chicken and stuff (though, I've never done that overly silly glorification of meat as some kind of food of gods like people like you do, I just liked the taste of chicken & all and didn't understand how easily they are replaced in any food). Then I tried a vegetarian diet for a month as a part of a kind of try-life-without-meat-for-a-month "challenge" and noticed vegetarian food can be extremely tasty and there are so many ways of replacing meat in your food that not eating meat became a non-problem. Then I started thinking all the ecological & moral problems with meat production (as in, meat production is possibly (one of) the worst environmental problems we'll ever face and if I can live without having to kill anyone or anything, then why wouldn't I?) and decided that was it for me & meat. I could still make extremely delicious lasagne, curry-chicken like food, veggieburgers and all of my other favorite foods (and even found a lot of new favorites when experimenting with different sorts of stuff), there's even an easy way of making vegan-bacon that, imho, tastes better than real bacon (though, I have to admit I've never really liked the taste of bacon, it's like someone accidentally tipped over the whole salt sprinkler bottle while cooking the meat -_-; ).

That's really great, super happy for you. I'm not you though and you're not me, I physically get ill and become hostile when I don't have meat in my diet.

Really cringe-worthy post though, was tough to read.
 
I'm not wrong about anything that I said, it's a dumb rule. If I went over to a friends house holding a burger in my hand and he said to me "sorry bro, only rice and beans in this house" I would surely say "wow, that is a dumb rule"

As you said it's their house though so they have the right to enforce dumb rules as they please.

It's a dumb rule only because you disagree with it. I could just as easily say people who eat meat are dumb for ignoring possible negative side effects, but I don't. I respect their decision to do what they want with their body and in their own home.
 

SBH

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That's really great, super happy for you. I'm not you though and you're not me, I physically get ill and become hostile when I don't have meat in my diet.

Really cringe-worthy post though, was tough to read.
I'm not a vegetarian and don't plan to be, but this just sounds weird. Is this a real thing or something psychological? Just curious.
Also what is the reasoning of banning meat from guests at the home? I understand if you don't want it on your frying pan and stuff, but can't he get his own?

On topic the guy sounds like he needs help. I don't know how to show him himself through other peoples eyes so he would agree to go see a doctor.
 

-MD-

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I'm not a vegetarian and don't plan to be, but this just sounds weird. Is this a real thing or something psychological? Just curious.
Also what is the reasoning of banning meat from guests at the home? I understand if you don't want it on your frying pan and stuff, but can't he get his own?

On topic the guy sounds like he needs help. I don't know how to show him himself through other peoples eyes so he would agree to go see a doctor.

Saying I get physically ill might have been a stretch, just the few times I've gone long periods without meat (3-4 days+) I notice I start craving it like crazy and can be pretty irritable around people.

I'm pretty sure it's just something that's in me as a human because nothing else makes me feel that way. I don't hold meat on some sort of a pedestal or anything like that, people that chant MEAT! and wear bacon shirts and shit? Lame as you can get, I just need that shit in my diet.

When you live on nothing but rice and potatoes for a couple weeks you'll kill your mom for a shitty 99 cent mcdouble.
 

SBH

Member
Saying I get physically ill might have been a stretch, just the few times I've gone long periods without meat (3-4 days+) I notice I start craving it like crazy and can be pretty irritable around people.

I'm pretty sure it's just something that's in me as a human because nothing else makes me feel that way. I don't hold meat on some sort of a pedestal or anything like that, people that chant MEAT! and wear bacon shirts and shit? Lame as you can get, I just need that shit in my diet.

When you live on nothing but rice and potatoes for a couple weeks you'll kill your mom for a shitty 99 cent mcdouble.

Oh, I have done that. Check the saddest meal thread.
I can do that easy and graduated soy protein helps a lot too after. It doesn't have to be meat. But that is just me. Was just curious is there a meat withdrawal syndrome or something.
 

akira28

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joking like that about rape is a red flag. dude needs to recognize that he has issues and talk them out with somebody. someone needs to unspool his thread and let him rewind it the right way. Otherwise these problems you see will become someone else's problems eventually.
 

Wiktor

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They are vegetarians and don't want to have to deal with the smell of cooked meat in the house and have their moral/other reasons for not eating meat in the first place and would rather keep it out of their house. It's perfectly reasonable. When you've been a vegetarian for a long time, at least some meat can start to smell bad and it's understandable if people don't want to deal with that in their own house.

Indeed. But at the same time, if forced to do so it's pretty reasonable the guy spends money of fast food. How else would he be able to eat? He can't cook for himself at home and restaurants are far more expensive than fast foods.

Banning all meat from the house seems like a pretty dick move to be honest. I can understand the smell being bad, but the dude could buy cured meats and eat it alone in his room. I don't see how that should be a problem for the owners of the houese.
 

Chuckie

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I'm thinking he has that fetish and is deeply ashamed of it.

Could very well be. I read somewhere that homophobes are often people who are ashamed of their own homosexual feelings. So someone who hates dominating women could actually be sexually attracted to them but ashamed of it.
 

IHaveIce

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While he is an absolute scum and should realy get out of your house and get help , I don't understand why your family forces somebody to be vegetarian if he wants live with you, why can't he eat his food with meat and you yours?
 
Honestly the dude sounds like he has some huge issues that need addressing, but the fact that he's respecting your home's "no meat rule" by not sneaking in meat and instead just spending most of his money on fast food suggests to me that he's not COMPLETELY terrible. He does sound like a massive baby though, bitching and moaning over that petty shit.

And threatening to eat the family bird? Lol, yeah ok. He's been with you for eight months and has had plenty of time to get violent. Obviously I don't know the guy, but it sounds like he just likes running his mouth more than anything else.

Still, I'd want him gone too. What an annoying, mysoginistic asswipe.
 

Jburton

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Tell his ass to join the army.


Please don't ......... incidents like the Haditha massacre are perpetrated by assholes like this.


Guy sounds like a wannabe tough guy, best thing that could happen is for someone to kick his ass and put him in place ........ might correct his perspective and make him wise up a little.
 

Sinfamy

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I'm an only child with no cousins or 2nd cousins.
I've always been lucky in this regard, though there are downsides.
 
Honestly OP you sound like a bit of a dick yourself. I couldn't read every word of that screed but I'm guessing you are an only child.

I grew up in a house with a lot of people, everyone goes through their own shit at times and they grow and they change sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Either practice tolerance, or move out -kick him out so you can have your little utopia.
 

Kinyou

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He has incredibly unhealthy attitudes towards women. He's always talking about rape. Seriously, rape. All the fucking time. Here's an actual quote he said. You know what it was about? A character in Agents of SHIELD. I was watching the episode with Lorelei and Sif. He saw Lorelei punch a dude into a car or something, and he's like "Wow, what a bitch. Somebody should rape her." He watched a girl wear shorts on Banshee (Dava) and he said "With clothes like that, isn't she asking somebody to rape her?" This is just the two most recent examples. Once I was referring to some comic book villain, offhandedly, as a real nasty piece of shit, and he just says "Does he rape people?" I wasn't even sure what to say to that. I just ignored it for my sanity.
Mark Millar?
 

Falcs

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Honestly OP you sound like a bit of a dick yourself. I couldn't read every word of that screed but I'm guessing you are an only child.

I grew up in a house with a lot of people, everyone goes through their own shit at times and they grow and they change sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Either practice tolerance, or move out -kick him out so you can have your little utopia.
There's one in every thread.
 

The Technomancer

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He has incredibly unhealthy attitudes towards women. He's always talking about rape. Seriously, rape. All the fucking time. Here's an actual quote he said. You know what it was about? A character in Agents of SHIELD. I was watching the episode with Lorelei and Sif. He saw Lorelei punch a dude into a car or something, and he's like "Wow, what a bitch. Somebody should rape her." He watched a girl wear shorts on Banshee (Dava) and he said "With clothes like that, isn't she asking somebody to rape her?" This is just the two most recent examples. Once I was referring to some comic book villain, offhandedly, as a real nasty piece of shit, and he just says "Does he rape people?" I wasn't even sure what to say to that. I just ignored it for my sanity.

But what's rape culture guyz!!?
 
While he is an absolute scum and should realy get out of your house and get help , I don't understand why your family forces somebody to be vegetarian if he wants live with you, why can't he eat his food with meat and you yours?

Maybe for religious reasons? I know lots of Hindu households follow a no meat policy.
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
Honestly OP you sound like a bit of a dick yourself. I couldn't read every word of that screed but I'm guessing you are an only child.

I grew up in a house with a lot of people, everyone goes through their own shit at times and they grow and they change sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Either practice tolerance, or move out -kick him out so you can have your little utopia.

It sounds like the OP has been trying to practice tolerance for almost a year now. How long should he be practicing it for?
 
Ah, you're one of those people who aren't willing to change or try anything out of their comfort zone and have this silly overglorification of meat going on, as if it's somehow irreplaceable and there can be nothing even remotely as good as meat.
Would you be okay with someone incorporating meat into all your meals if you were living in someone else's household as well? I have a friend from Hong Kong who did a homestay here in the US, and she does not eat beef for religious reasons.

Getting meals was part of the arrangement that she paid for, and they were well aware of her dietary restriction, so to speak. But they went out of their way to add beef to every meal and more or less told her to deal with it. (They started doing it more often when she asked if it were possible to set aside a very small portion of the food before any beef was added to it, or to make a small portion without any. They didn't want to go out of their way to cater her to her, and sure, they are not obligated to.) However, they wouldn't let her buy her own food to prepare, either.

Sure, it's the household that decides the rules, but not allowing people to prepare their own food--that no one else has to eat, mind--may not be one of the fairest.
 

EmiPrime

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While he is an absolute scum and should realy get out of your house and get help , I don't understand why your family forces somebody to be vegetarian if he wants live with you, why can't he eat his food with meat and you yours?

They're not "forcing him to be vegetarian". He eats fast food everyday and they don't care what he eats outside of the family home he's just not allowed to bring meat into the house. Did you even read the whole post?
 
You should recommend therapeutic porn therapy to relieve his stresses like how some ppl say movie violence might temper the real thing.
 
It sounds like the OP has been trying to practice tolerance for almost a year now. How long should he be practicing it for?

When it comes to family, as long as we aren't talking about criminal or truly destructive activity, and sometimes even when we are, it's for life. It sounds like OP is being passive aggressive about the whole thing. Tolerance does not just mean you just accept something and live with it. This cousin can be OP's version of a "good person" but kicking him out isn't going to do it, nor will a live journal like post on a forum.
 

Kinyou

Member
Yes I concur. Sometimes people like that need a beat down because he sounds like he is one beer away from raping or injuring some woman who gets the better of him.
I'm not sure if a beatdown helps with that. Would probably make it more likely that he takes out his anger about said beatdown on somebody weaker than him.
 

Tugatrix

Member
He will get the refused for the army, all those psychological issues are a no go in any decent army and consider you're talking about Canada the guy will never pass the psyc evaluation.

Try to speak with your family and see if you can rally on him to seek therapy would make him wonders...
 

EmiPrime

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Would you be okay with someone incorporating meat into all your meals if you were living in someone else's household as well?

Sure, it's the household that decides the rules, but not allowing people to prepare their own food--that no one else has to eat, mind--may not be one of the fairest.

This is a false equivalence. Omnivores can eat vegetarian meals, vegetarians can't eat food with meat in it.

Cooked meat smells very strong and maybe they don't want their pots and pans and utensils being used to cook meat (I can't imagine the guy as described doing the washing up either). They don't want that in their house, EOD.
 
I can kind of related, OP. I have a cousin who I'm really close to, he's pretty much my best friend. But sometimes he can be kind of misogynistic, and treat women as literally nothing but sexual objects meant to please him. His older brother is far worse though, far more misogynistic and also homophobic too, I think he gets the misogyny from his older brother.

But I still love him because most of the time he's really funny and fun to hangout with, even though he can be a dick other times, but he is still family, and I've been close to him for the longest time, since childhood.

I did have another distant second cousin visit from a foreign country who was completely and unacceptably rude and not deserving of a home in our family. Our entire family basically kicked him out of the country and sent him back (he was visiting anyways, but he thought everyone would be cool with him staying).
 
This is a false equivalence. Omnivores can eat vegetarian meals, vegetarians can't eat food with meat in it.

Cooked meat smells very strong and maybe they don't want their pots and pans and utensils being used to cook meat (I can't imagine the guy as described doing the washing up either). They don't want that in their house, EOD.
That's making a lot of assumptions, though.

All humans are capable of omnivory by nature. If they are unable to eat or smell meat due to health-related concerns, then that's another matter. A lot of people are vegetarian for moral or religious reasons.

And pre-cooked chicken, for example, is fairly odorless.

My point was that as a general rule, it could use improvement. The OP's cousin doesn't seem like the type to be considerate of other's needs, though, so it doesn't apply to him.
 
OP, don't hesitate to call the cops on his ass if he even looks like he could snap. This doesn't seem safe.

When it comes to family, as long as we aren't talking about criminal or truly destructive activity, and sometimes even when we are, it's for life.

Nope, fuck blood ties if it means dealing with assholes, especially when they're potentially dangerous.
 

wildfire

Banned
You say he seems to be jealous of his nicer brother. What is your overall impression of his family because I'm questioning how sending him back would make him a better human being than the progress you've made so far?


If he wants someone to just listen to his problems send him to a priest they are good at doing that and asking questions mostly afterwards.

He's too chicken shit to take basic training and he hates women. To respectively soothe and check his ego I strongly recommend you convince him to volunteer for the MRFC. ( Military Family Resource Centre)

http://www.familyforce.ca/sites/StJohns/EN/Pages/default.aspx

But do your homework first. Discretely figure out what volunteer opportunities are appropriate for him and push him in those directions.


As for your last question no I don't know someone who acts crazy like that but I heard of one relative being a lot worse than that. Your loon is nothing but all talk so far, so he can be salvaged/rehabilitated.

Maybe he'll stumble into it and find that everyone agrees that he is indeed an utter dickwad of a human being, causing him to think, even if for just a second, that maybe he should try to be a better person.

lol naaaaah

Of course not. He'll retreat to the worst corners of some sub-reddit or 4chan instead of dealing with the perceived disgust.
 
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