My thoughts exactly. Servo? Needs to dial it down a few notches. Going too far in the "tryhard radio DJ" direction.
I'll bet someone posted this about Josh on a newsgroup in 1989
I'll bet someone posted this about Josh on a newsgroup in 1989
Someone pledged at the $10K level.
Someone pledged at the $10K level.
Good for them. $750,000 here we come.Someone pledged at the $10K level.
Which would have been deserved. Josh's Servo was bad.
5.5 million fucking dollars?!
I'm sure they did it for way less back in 1991. Probably to the benefit of the show
No Mike, Bill, or Kevin? No deal.
5.5 million fucking dollars?!
I'm sure they did it for way less back in 1991. Probably to the benefit of the show
Rights to release a movie and sell it online as part of another show are not the same as the rights to broadcast one, and I'm sure that in the olden days they had access to certain film libraries the networks already owned or could get for cheap.5.5 million fucking dollars?!
I'm sure they did it for way less back in 1991. Probably to the benefit of the show
Pledge rewards are just rewards, but if you want to wait to see what episodes go for when they are finished I doubt you'll have to wait long to find out. This thing is getting kickstarted.I really want to back, but $35 for one episode sounds like a lot. The new actors all seem to have the same voice as well. I think that would drive me crazy. Hopefully they get some of that straightened out before the end.
You know what they need to do to really sell people who are on the fence? Just go ahead and do a quick little 5-10 minute short to give people an idea of what the reboot's gonna be like.
Joel's talking like it's MST3K season 11. He needs to say that it's MST3K The Next Generation. Also I'd do away with Crow and Tom and get new bots. Using new voices for the old bots is a mistake. Just go ahead and make it a whole new cast with the same premise (like TNG).
Yeah, I said something similar and people were quick to correct me that the robots will not be redesigned (which I was indeed not correct about, mea culpa).
But the real problem is not the look of the robots, it's the voice acting. People will immediately hear the new Crow or Servo voice, decide it's not as good as the old one, and be turned off.
If they can't get the original voices, then they really oughtta just introduce some new bots. IMO this isn't Bugs Bunny or Kermit the Frog where they absolutely have to carry the old characters forward to a new generation. People liked those characters, but if your jokes are good you won't need them. If your jokes are bad, then it won't matter that they're coming from Crow & Tom.
I dunno, maybe Joel is just concerned that changing out the entire cast completely would be too frustrating for the audience, and at least wants to have the old robots available. But they should work to phase out Crow & Tom completely. Shit, they could even have Joel build some new robots and send them to the new host on the Satellite of Love. Crow & Tom can can hop on an escape pod, fall to earth, and become roommates with Joel to live out the rest of their days.
Yeah, I said something similar and people were quick to correct me that the robots will not be redesigned (which I was indeed not correct about, mea culpa).
But the real problem is not the look of the robots, it's the voice acting. People will immediately hear the new Crow or Servo voice, decide it's not as good as the old one, and be turned off.
If they can't get the original voices, then they really oughtta just introduce some new bots. IMO this isn't Bugs Bunny or Kermit the Frog where they absolutely have to carry the old characters forward to a new generation. People liked those characters, but if your jokes are good you won't need them. If your jokes are bad, then it won't matter that they're coming from Crow & Tom.
I dunno, maybe Joel is just concerned that changing out the entire cast completely would be too frustrating for the audience, and at least wants to have the old robots available. But they should work to phase out Crow & Tom completely. Shit, they could even have Joel build some new robots and send them to the new host on the Satellite of Love. Crow & Tom can can hop on an escape pod, fall to earth, and become roommates with Joel to live out the rest of their days.
I'm very glad we got Bill Corbett Crow instead of some random new robot. I see no reason to phase out the robots, when all the robots went through actor changes just fine already.
Josh sucked as Servo, Kevin was awesome!
As seen at the end of Diabolik, Crow and Tom live with Mike. As far as I'm concerned, that's where their story ends. These new ones will be Crow and Tom V2.0.
When Josh left, Trace was still there. When Trace left, Kevin was still there. There hasn't been a switch in voices for both characters at the same time. One new voice is jarring enough. Two is...ew.
Even avid viewers sometimes dont realize that every major role in the show had been swapped out over time. So in my mind, the show is built to be refreshed with new people and new ideas. Its like Heisenbergs uncertainty principle as it applies to MST3K: If it doesnt change, its not the same show. And fortunately for us, as long as there are movies, there are always going to be cheesy movies.
I'm very glad we got Bill Corbett Crow instead of some random new robot. I see no reason to phase out the robots, when all the robots went through actor changes just fine already.
Joel isn't going to be the new host. Has it occurred to you that you might also prefer the new host over Joel? I personally prefer Mike too. It was Joel who handed the reigns over to him in the first place. If no-one had been open to a new host... we wouldn't have Mike.
That was a time in the show's history when they weren't directly dependent on fan support. Comedy Central/SciFi were going to pay for full seasons even if ratings took a dip because they needed content for their networks and the show was pretty cheap to produce.
I think you'd have the comparisons either way. We'll see how these new episodes turn out (which is a complete YAY feeling) compared to 'golden-age' MST3K (which is when exactly? season 8 in 97? season 5 in 93/94?If Joel needs everybody watching to cough up $20, I think it's a better creative decision to go in a direction that does not immediately invite comparisons with golden-age MST3K. People are already upset that Trace, Bill, and Mike aren't involved with the project and recasting the robots only compounds that gripe.
But hey, I don't know everything. Maybe new robots would be just as irritating and abrasive to old fans.
Josh sucked as Servo, Kevin was awesome!
Oddly enough, I've never cared who as voicing Crow (Trace or Bill). I think they both did excellent jobs, and really don't have a preference between them.
To me, Bill never sounded like Crow. He always sounded like Bill. Especially in the last season he completely seemed to be playing a person, not a robot.
Why couldn't Joel strike a deal with Netflix? It seems like a no-brainer. Netflix already has streaming rights for hundreds of terrible movies that nobody is going to watch. The cost of acquiring movies for the show is already taken care of, so all they'd have to do is pay pretty meager production costs for the puppet live-action segments and the bluescreen riffing.
I know MST3K has kind of a niche audience, but I don't see how it is any more niche than Mr. Show, Arrested Development, or Wet Hot American Summer -- three shows that were way more expensive to produce than MST3K, and they all got greenlighted.
Welp, not even a full 24 hours, and they're already at $829,019.
Good night everybody!
To me, Bill never sounded like Crow. He always sounded like Bill. Especially in the last season he completely seemed to be playing a person, not a robot.
He's funny at times, but he never felt like a character the way Trace did Crow. I never though of him as being the same guy as Dr. F.
I'm not going to be able to hold out, am I?
*sigh*
This. The artist mentioned that he has been working on it for 2 years, which signals to me that they have been trying to pitch this to traditional traditional channels for a while.I think we have every reason to believe that he already tried and failed. Part of the gambit here is demonstrating to a network or to a major streaming service that there is still a market for the show. We know he's been trying to get the new version off the ground for a while anyways.
But yeah, it's clearly cheaper for someone that already has movie rights to do this than it is for Joel to do this independently. I hope the master plan comes to fruition and we do end up getting another 100 episodes off the back of this.
Mike just said he's not involved: https://twitter.com/michaeljnelson/status/664160798499995648